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To not use proper spellings when naming your child

934 replies

Catterpillarsflipflops · 19/03/2025 18:17

Am I being unreasonable to think it's ridiculous to use a funky spelling of a normal name. I spent today dealing with lost paperwork for a child as the person that took the details didn't think to check the spelling as there is no other spelling of the name.

It looks silly and just causes no end of problems for the child. It also disadvantages them as straight away people get an image of what the child is like.

I've seen

Jaymz
Ezmay
Lil-leigh

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SinnerBoy · 25/03/2025 11:25

BeholdOurButterStinketh · Yesterday 20:43

I saw a photo on TwiX where a man had ordered a coffee at Starbucks and given his name as "Marc - with a C" - and then, when he got his drink, it had 'Cark' written on it

There's a poster on MN called MarkWithaC...

Scorchio84 · 25/03/2025 11:27

RaraRachael · 25/03/2025 11:18

We had a new girl enrolled at our school called Cerys and the HT was adamant it was Serys. She was the sort of person who always had to be right and no amount of telling from the rest of us would convince her otherwise.

It wasn't until the parents complained that she conceded. Even then it was "Apparently her name is Cerys, even though it should be Serys" 🙄

Oh NO!!!! I love that name, it's beautiful & has a lovely meaning too (I'm not Welsh) what a stupid bitch! 😡

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 25/03/2025 11:37

RaraRachael · 25/03/2025 11:18

We had a new girl enrolled at our school called Cerys and the HT was adamant it was Serys. She was the sort of person who always had to be right and no amount of telling from the rest of us would convince her otherwise.

It wasn't until the parents complained that she conceded. Even then it was "Apparently her name is Cerys, even though it should be Serys" 🙄

She must be one of those people who will go through life never realising how much people are cringing for her and laughing at her behind her back! Cerys is a common name, but I've never ever heard of anybody called Serys.

She reminds me of a certain celebrity on The Wright Stuff (the precursor to Jeremy Vine on Five) who berated people for pronouncing the first word of Plaid Cymru to rhyme with the English word 'side'. She was bizarrely insistent that it should somehow be 'Plaidd' (to rhyme with 'scythe'). A little knowledge......

She's actually Welsh as well, but has lived in England for a very long time.

JHound · 25/03/2025 11:43

Scorchio84 · 25/03/2025 11:12

As much as my eyes roll every September with our new recruits I absolutely agree, who's business really if it's spelled Kayden, Caiden or Kaydhen? (just examples, I have no issues with this name) My son's Irish name has a few different spellings but no one bats an eyelid & it speaks to a bit of snobbiness

My name is very unusual but I am glad I have it and would not have wanted government officials telling my parents to give me a nice English approved name instead!

Scorchio84 · 25/03/2025 12:06

It would be awful @JHound I mean like every year the most popular names lists are published& it's the usual top 5 suspects but there's other names that make a comeback, the Nelly's or Ruby's or Ted's that I find just charming

No one should legislate for names no matter how much we all side eye or eye roll

RaraRachael · 25/03/2025 12:33

@Scorchio84 she was indeed a stupid batch! How the hell she became a HT was beyond us.
There were numerous occasions of her insisting she was right when she was wrong. She once told me to check my facts as I"d told the pupils that Vesuvius was on the Italian mainland when "It's on Sicily". I told her that as I'd climbed it the previous summer I was well aware of its location.

She never, ever apologised for anything as she'd been told that you never apologise for anything when you're a HT.

RedOnyx · 25/03/2025 17:53

JHound · 24/03/2025 20:10

I really don’t think giving government that level of power is ever preferable.

Who decides what makes the list? How does it handle foreign names?

Daft idea.

They do this in Germany. They have huge books full of names. If a foreign name isn't in their lists the parents can provide evidence that it's a normal/traditional name in their culture. My cousin was born in Germany and has a foreign name. Her parents had to get a certificate stating that her name is a common, female name in that culture. It was then accepted and she was registered with that name.

Scorchio84 · 25/03/2025 23:30

RaraRachael · 25/03/2025 12:33

@Scorchio84 she was indeed a stupid batch! How the hell she became a HT was beyond us.
There were numerous occasions of her insisting she was right when she was wrong. She once told me to check my facts as I"d told the pupils that Vesuvius was on the Italian mainland when "It's on Sicily". I told her that as I'd climbed it the previous summer I was well aware of its location.

She never, ever apologised for anything as she'd been told that you never apologise for anything when you're a HT.

Teachers back then could be horrible cunts, I might have mentioned one or two thousand times that I am a teacher but things have changed so much, thank christ

GrandTheftWalrus · 26/03/2025 01:10

Saw this in the mirror today on fb.

Naepalz · 26/03/2025 01:36

tulippa · 19/03/2025 18:34

I work somewhere where there is a sign to contact Kacper if you need a certain thing doing. I spent months thinking that's an unusual name until I realised it was a funky spelling of Casper. Parents obviously didn't know the letter c only makes 's' when followed by i, e or y.

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I know a Kacper, it is not a "funky spelling" he is Polish. That is how you spell the name in Poland 🙄

sashh · 26/03/2025 04:48

JanglingJack · 19/03/2025 18:23

I had to think about Jaymz!

I'm not fan, but then naming my son with a common traditional name starting with G but sounds like a J, there were times he was trying to learn how to spell it, and I wished I had just called him Ben.

I went to high school with a Philomena. When she first started school she thought she was stupid because the other children could write their names and she couldn't.

OP

As someone given a unique spelling, before it was popular, I totally agree with you.

tulippa · 26/03/2025 05:28

Naepalz · 26/03/2025 01:36

I know a Kacper, it is not a "funky spelling" he is Polish. That is how you spell the name in Poland 🙄

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Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new last week. 🙂

Hollowvoice · 26/03/2025 06:50

tulippa · 26/03/2025 05:28

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new last week. 🙂

The thread that keeps on giving!

Candlebook · 26/03/2025 06:56

tulippa · 19/03/2025 18:34

I work somewhere where there is a sign to contact Kacper if you need a certain thing doing. I spent months thinking that's an unusual name until I realised it was a funky spelling of Casper. Parents obviously didn't know the letter c only makes 's' when followed by i, e or y.

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Parents might be Polish (or of Polish heritage) as Kacper is a commonly used boys name.

tulippa · 26/03/2025 06:59

Candlebook · 26/03/2025 06:56

Parents might be Polish (or of Polish heritage) as Kacper is a commonly used boys name.

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new last week. 🙂

Candlebook · 26/03/2025 07:10

tulippa · 26/03/2025 06:59

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new last week. 🙂

Sorry, just catching up with the thread 😊👍

Candlebook · 26/03/2025 07:14

tulippa · 26/03/2025 06:59

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new last week. 🙂

Oh gosh, and now I’ve read on I see you’ve been corrected a lot. I’ve made a mental note to self to read thread fully before commenting 😊

Namechangetry · 26/03/2025 07:28

Naepalz · 26/03/2025 01:36

I know a Kacper, it is not a "funky spelling" he is Polish. That is how you spell the name in Poland 🙄

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RTFT 🙄

EmpressaurusKitty · 26/03/2025 07:52

Fair play to @Candlebook for responding. Now you can join the game Grin

JHound · 26/03/2025 09:34

RedOnyx · 25/03/2025 17:53

They do this in Germany. They have huge books full of names. If a foreign name isn't in their lists the parents can provide evidence that it's a normal/traditional name in their culture. My cousin was born in Germany and has a foreign name. Her parents had to get a certificate stating that her name is a common, female name in that culture. It was then accepted and she was registered with that name.

I am aware they do it in other places.

I don’t care.

In those “other places” they are more relaxed with overly intrusive state power.

Nobody should have to provide any evidence of anything when naming a child.

What if the unusual name you want is not part of your own culture? What if the name is not of rhe correct “gender”?

But anyway it will never be a thing in the UK so it’s all moot.

RaraRachael · 26/03/2025 11:10

I just feel sorry for the poor children who are saddled with a silly name for the rest of their lives because their parents watched a certain programme or were fans of a certain footballer.

I suppose they could change it when they're 18.

I dislike my name because nobody could ever spell it and I was always the only one in school with it.

RedOnyx · 26/03/2025 12:39

JHound · 26/03/2025 09:34

I am aware they do it in other places.

I don’t care.

In those “other places” they are more relaxed with overly intrusive state power.

Nobody should have to provide any evidence of anything when naming a child.

What if the unusual name you want is not part of your own culture? What if the name is not of rhe correct “gender”?

But anyway it will never be a thing in the UK so it’s all moot.

Edited

It doesn't necessarily have to be from your own culture, but it does have to be a name. You can't call your child Table or Ceiling for example. Or anything that could be "damaging" - so no Hitler. Iceland is much, much more strict.

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 26/03/2025 18:51

I really wouldn't want a strictly prescribed list if approved names in this country.

There are lots of names that might not be established existing names, but they're perfectly nice if they're your sort of thing - e.g. nature names like Rain, Storm or Ocean; and I never understood the absolute ridicule that was hurled at Gwyneth & Chris for choosing Apple for their DD, when nobody thinks twice about names like Cherry or Plum.

Then again, registrars should have the power to veto idiots wanting to name their babies utterly stupid things like Incontinentia or Tumbledryer.

MissRoseDurward · 26/03/2025 20:39

I went to high school with a Philomena. When she first started school she thought she was stupid because the other children could write their names and she couldn't.

Though Philomena would be quite easy once she knew her sounds. All the letters do something and sound how they're supposed to sound. Unlike some examples given this thread.

ItsUpToYou · 26/03/2025 21:35

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 26/03/2025 18:51

I really wouldn't want a strictly prescribed list if approved names in this country.

There are lots of names that might not be established existing names, but they're perfectly nice if they're your sort of thing - e.g. nature names like Rain, Storm or Ocean; and I never understood the absolute ridicule that was hurled at Gwyneth & Chris for choosing Apple for their DD, when nobody thinks twice about names like Cherry or Plum.

Then again, registrars should have the power to veto idiots wanting to name their babies utterly stupid things like Incontinentia or Tumbledryer.

Edited

I agree (although I’ve never heard Plum as a name!)