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To not use proper spellings when naming your child

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Catterpillarsflipflops · 19/03/2025 18:17

Am I being unreasonable to think it's ridiculous to use a funky spelling of a normal name. I spent today dealing with lost paperwork for a child as the person that took the details didn't think to check the spelling as there is no other spelling of the name.

It looks silly and just causes no end of problems for the child. It also disadvantages them as straight away people get an image of what the child is like.

I've seen

Jaymz
Ezmay
Lil-leigh

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OkPedro · 22/03/2025 16:23

Shinaed is an abomination!

NPET · 22/03/2025 16:31

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 22/03/2025 14:29

Hmmm, it's almost as if Welsh is a different language from English, isn't it?!

If they don't believe that Sian can be pronounced that way, why are they happy to 'accept' Sean? That name isn't spelled in a way that you would say it according to standard English pronunciation either - it would clearly be said as 'Seen' or maybe 'See-an' if it were originally an English name!

If they know that Irish is a different language from English, why wouldn't Welsh be also?!

Simple answer is 'I dont know'. Of course it doesnt help that I'm not actually Welsh! I do have some Welsh ancestry but quite a while ago. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at finding a "Sharn", as there are many "Shauns" or "Shawns".

NPET · 22/03/2025 16:37

RaraRachael · 22/03/2025 14:24

We had a Sian at school in the 70s. We called her Sean as we'd never heard the name before

Which country were you in? In Britain, Sean is a male name so I imagine Sian was not pleased! I wouldn't have been anyway.

amele · 22/03/2025 16:46

@Yellowpingu yes I think that is the polish spelling, we were writing Christmas cards, my son told me to write Casper, he then told me I’ve spelt it wrong and it’s Kacper, I honestly thought he doesn’t know the spelling until I was inside the school one day and saw the little boys name on the peg spelt as Kacper

Namechangetry · 22/03/2025 17:10

amele · 22/03/2025 16:46

@Yellowpingu yes I think that is the polish spelling, we were writing Christmas cards, my son told me to write Casper, he then told me I’ve spelt it wrong and it’s Kacper, I honestly thought he doesn’t know the spelling until I was inside the school one day and saw the little boys name on the peg spelt as Kacper

Gosh if only someone had said so in the 34 pages that this thread's been going

EmpressaurusKitty · 22/03/2025 17:17

Namechangetry · 22/03/2025 17:10

Gosh if only someone had said so in the 34 pages that this thread's been going

On the bright side, @tulippa has now learned the same new thing every day since Wednesday & I’d guess she has a fair chance of learning it tomorrow as well.

I wonder how many of the people who get as far as that post reach far enough to see that they’re part of the running joke?

ToWhitToWhoo · 22/03/2025 17:36

Hoppinggreen · 21/03/2025 08:11

I understand from HK Chinese friends that some people even pay a consultant to choose an English name for their Children when they send them to The UK for their education.
I was at Boarding school in the mid 80's with a HK Chinese Kenneth, Susan, Monica, Edward and Lawrence amongst others

I have met quite a few East Asians (not just from Hong Kong; also other parts of China; South Korea; Singapore) who came to the UK to work or study, and who had English names as well as their Chinese/ other Asian names. Their English names have tended to be very 'classic' and more what you'd typically associate in England with someone born in the early 60s than (as is usually the case) the 90s/ early 2000s: Margaret, Janice, Angela, Dennis, etc. They are usually not super-wealthy, but certainly upper middle class: poorer people are presumably less likely to be able to travel to study abroad.

ToWhitToWhoo · 22/03/2025 17:40

I heard of someone, whose name was John Smith, and whose parents, seeking to distinguish him from all the hundreds of other John Smiths, had given him the unique middle name of 'Five-eighths'.

RaraRachael · 22/03/2025 18:00

@NPET we were in Scotland. She never objected to us, or the teachers pronouncing it as Sean

Hollowvoice · 22/03/2025 18:41

EmpressaurusKitty · 22/03/2025 17:17

On the bright side, @tulippa has now learned the same new thing every day since Wednesday & I’d guess she has a fair chance of learning it tomorrow as well.

I wonder how many of the people who get as far as that post reach far enough to see that they’re part of the running joke?

When this thread is full I'd love to see an analysis of just how many times @tulippa has learned this lesson

Grammarnut · 22/03/2025 19:08

GrandTheftWalrus · 21/03/2025 23:19

No Charles is pronounced Charles.

No, I meant that Karl, Charles and Carol are all forms of the Latin name Carolus.

CapybaraInMyGardenOhIWish · 23/03/2025 02:06

Grammarnut · 22/03/2025 19:08

No, I meant that Karl, Charles and Carol are all forms of the Latin name Carolus.

Caroline as well. I'm guessing Carolyn also.

MomGran · 23/03/2025 09:50

tulippa · 19/03/2025 18:34

I work somewhere where there is a sign to contact Kacper if you need a certain thing doing. I spent months thinking that's an unusual name until I realised it was a funky spelling of Casper. Parents obviously didn't know the letter c only makes 's' when followed by i, e or y.

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It is a Polish variant of Casper.

RominaDina · 23/03/2025 09:53

MomGran · 23/03/2025 09:50

It is a Polish variant of Casper.

@tulippa has been very grateful to all the many, many posters who have pointed this out. She learned this fact on Wednesday, and every day since. Sometimes several times 😀!

RominaDina · 23/03/2025 09:54

Hollowvoice · 22/03/2025 18:41

When this thread is full I'd love to see an analysis of just how many times @tulippa has learned this lesson

Yet again this morning! If anyone is feeling bored, they can start to run a tally! 😂

MomGran · 23/03/2025 09:54

RominaDina · 23/03/2025 09:53

@tulippa has been very grateful to all the many, many posters who have pointed this out. She learned this fact on Wednesday, and every day since. Sometimes several times 😀!

Every day is a school day 😀

RominaDina · 23/03/2025 09:55

MomGran · 23/03/2025 09:54

Every day is a school day 😀

Very true 😃!

JMSA · 23/03/2025 09:55

It’s awful and completely uncouth. Latest I’ve come across is Mia.
Pronunciation: Maya.
I mean, just why??

tulippa · 23/03/2025 09:58

MomGran · 23/03/2025 09:50

It is a Polish variant of Casper.

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new on Wednesday. 🙂

RominaDina · 23/03/2025 10:16

tulippa · 23/03/2025 09:58

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new on Wednesday. 🙂

😂

Namechangetry · 23/03/2025 10:36

JMSA · 23/03/2025 09:55

It’s awful and completely uncouth. Latest I’ve come across is Mia.
Pronunciation: Maya.
I mean, just why??

I've met Mayas pronounced me-a, my-a and may-a. Don't even get me started on the Alicias. Or Louis pronounced Lewis.

merryhouse · 23/03/2025 12:50

I know nothing about Péig (I'm someone who was 19 before encountering the name Niamh) except for a conversation on a Usenet group with several Irish people in it
"look, if you're going to fadó fadó you have to do it properly"

OchonAgusOchonOh · 23/03/2025 12:55

merryhouse · 23/03/2025 12:50

I know nothing about Péig (I'm someone who was 19 before encountering the name Niamh) except for a conversation on a Usenet group with several Irish people in it
"look, if you're going to fadó fadó you have to do it properly"

You can always get a translation of Péig if you want to torture yourself read it

KimberleyClark · 23/03/2025 13:02

Scorchio84 · 22/03/2025 13:35

There isn't a female version of "Oisín" or whatever that obomination that was previously

There is a Welsh male name Osian. It’s pronounced Oshan with short o sound.

x2boys · 23/03/2025 13:06

Back in the day when chloe wasnt such s popular name i was reading a book with someone with the name and couldnt work out how to pronounce it i think i read it to rhyme with pole

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