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To not use proper spellings when naming your child

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Catterpillarsflipflops · 19/03/2025 18:17

Am I being unreasonable to think it's ridiculous to use a funky spelling of a normal name. I spent today dealing with lost paperwork for a child as the person that took the details didn't think to check the spelling as there is no other spelling of the name.

It looks silly and just causes no end of problems for the child. It also disadvantages them as straight away people get an image of what the child is like.

I've seen

Jaymz
Ezmay
Lil-leigh

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Natsku · 22/03/2025 08:05

GrandTheftWalrus · 21/03/2025 19:07

Someone mentioned about a Snow White upthread. Well there is a little girl called Snow where my parents live.

I do like nature names but they seem a bit out there in English but Snow is a popular name in Finnish (Lumi) and I like it. Nature names are very common, my mum is named Grasshopper! (Obviously in Finnish though, where it sounds nicer)

MementoMountain · 22/03/2025 08:19

What is it in Finnish? I tried Google but not sure I trust the answer!

I imagine most words sound better in Finnish.

BuntyNuffins · 22/03/2025 08:24

tulippa · 19/03/2025 18:34

I work somewhere where there is a sign to contact Kacper if you need a certain thing doing. I spent months thinking that's an unusual name until I realised it was a funky spelling of Casper. Parents obviously didn't know the letter c only makes 's' when followed by i, e or y.

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In this example the 'c' is likely a 'ç' which makes an 's' sound and the name probably belongs to someone european.

EmpressaurusKitty · 22/03/2025 08:31

BuntyNuffins · 22/03/2025 08:24

In this example the 'c' is likely a 'ç' which makes an 's' sound and the name probably belongs to someone european.

@tulippa has already been corrected by multiple people and has thanked them politely. She learned something new on Wednesday (and again on Thursday, Friday and now Saturday).

RominaDina · 22/03/2025 08:39

BuntyNuffins · 22/03/2025 08:24

In this example the 'c' is likely a 'ç' which makes an 's' sound and the name probably belongs to someone european.

I'm sure that @tulippa has learned something since Wednesday, and she's grateful.

RominaDina · 22/03/2025 08:40

EmpressaurusKitty · 22/03/2025 08:31

@tulippa has already been corrected by multiple people and has thanked them politely. She learned something new on Wednesday (and again on Thursday, Friday and now Saturday).

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I'm only here for the Kacper comments 😂!

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 09:05

Yes, but it's a bit confusing and vainglorious whilst the people in question are themselves still alive - as opposed to when they've passed into history.

Confusing maybe (though there’s usually a variety of short forms used to help with that), but I don’t think it’s vainglorious mostly. These things are often cultural.

Natsku · 22/03/2025 09:08

MementoMountain · 22/03/2025 08:19

What is it in Finnish? I tried Google but not sure I trust the answer!

I imagine most words sound better in Finnish.

Sirkka. Was a very popular name in her generation, especially hyphenated with another name.

I just remembered that Lumikki is a name which is literally Snow White (its what it was translated as for the film)

RominaDina · 22/03/2025 09:09

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 09:05

Yes, but it's a bit confusing and vainglorious whilst the people in question are themselves still alive - as opposed to when they've passed into history.

Confusing maybe (though there’s usually a variety of short forms used to help with that), but I don’t think it’s vainglorious mostly. These things are often cultural.

Indeed, it is cultural. Also more common when there was a higher rate of infant mortality.

Namechangetry · 22/03/2025 09:10

Anyotherdude · 22/03/2025 03:31

@tulippa
Now that is a Polish spelling! Those are completely forgivable…

It's good you mentioned that, because no one has pointed it out in the previous 32 pages of the thread.

RominaDina · 22/03/2025 09:12

Namechangetry · 22/03/2025 09:10

It's good you mentioned that, because no one has pointed it out in the previous 32 pages of the thread.

😂I do hope @tulippa has learned something since Wednesday with all these kind posters pointing out her error.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 22/03/2025 09:19

HaddyAbrams · 22/03/2025 00:19

I know Siobhan is an Irish spelling, which was why her lack of knowledge about other Irish names was so strange.

The girls name she kept correcting in my work was Hayleigh. Which may or may not be an Irish spelling, the brothers name was though.

Hayleigh is not an Irish name nor an anglicisation of an Irish name. What was the brother's name?

EmpressaurusKitty · 22/03/2025 09:28

OchonAgusOchonOh · 22/03/2025 09:19

Hayleigh is not an Irish name nor an anglicisation of an Irish name. What was the brother's name?

Not related to the thread but I really want to know what OchunAgusOchonOh means / where it comes from!

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 09:49

@EmpressaurusKitty
If you mean Hayleigh there seem to be a variety of origins given if you look it up.
Old English, Norse, Irish.

It’s possible there were multiple origins? One of them could be an anglicisation from the Irish language. I’m not sure.

Hayleigh is definitely not an Irish spelling though as pp thought it might be, though she wasn’t sure.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 22/03/2025 09:50

It's an Irish lament "Ochón agus ochón ó" meaning "Alas and woe to me" except I changed the ó to oh as that's how it's pronounced.

Those of us of a certain age had to endure the most awful book for our leaving cert called Péig. In the book based on the life story she told the author, she had the most miserable life, although apparently he left out the more raunchy bits of her story. I don't think the term was actually used in the book but it basically epitomised it for all of us poor kids who were tortured with it. The phrase is used as a lament in the song Caoineadh na dTrí Mhuire https://songsinirish.com/?song=caoineadh-na-dtri-mhuire-lyrics

Caoineadh na dTrí Mhuire lyrics and chords - SongsInIrish.com

Lyrics as Gaeilge, English translation and pronunciation of words in Irish, guitar chords/tabs with YouTube video. Keening of the Three Marys

https://songsinirish.com/?song=caoineadh-na-dtri-mhuire-lyrics

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 09:51

Oops sorry misunderstood 😅

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 09:54

Love that song ❤️

ETA but then I quite liked Peig too. I’m an aberration 😂

tulippa · 22/03/2025 10:02

BuntyNuffins · 22/03/2025 08:24

In this example the 'c' is likely a 'ç' which makes an 's' sound and the name probably belongs to someone european.

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new on Wednesday. 🙂

OchonAgusOchonOh · 22/03/2025 10:03

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 09:54

Love that song ❤️

ETA but then I quite liked Peig too. I’m an aberration 😂

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You're definitely an aberration. I've never heard of anyone enjoying Péig before.

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 10:20

Interesting rather than enjoyable really, too many tragedies for that. But it makes you think, it was very different than life today.

RaraRachael · 22/03/2025 10:23

I remember our school staff getting shouted at by a parent because "No-one spells her bleeding name right"

I felt like saying that if they'd spelled it normally there wouldn't be an issue.

HaddyAbrams · 22/03/2025 10:45

OchonAgusOchonOh · 22/03/2025 09:19

Hayleigh is not an Irish name nor an anglicisation of an Irish name. What was the brother's name?

Thank you to you and @Whoshotjr , i didn't realise there isn't a Y in the Irish alphabet. My mum always told me it was the Irish spelling, but I guess she just assumed that.

The brothers name started with C but my teacher used to incorrectly correct it to K.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 22/03/2025 11:13

HaddyAbrams · 22/03/2025 10:45

Thank you to you and @Whoshotjr , i didn't realise there isn't a Y in the Irish alphabet. My mum always told me it was the Irish spelling, but I guess she just assumed that.

The brothers name started with C but my teacher used to incorrectly correct it to K.

Ciarán but corrected to Kieran?

Edited to say there is also no K in the Irish language.

HaddyAbrams · 22/03/2025 11:25

OchonAgusOchonOh · 22/03/2025 11:13

Ciarán but corrected to Kieran?

Edited to say there is also no K in the Irish language.

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Along those lines yes (trying not to out myself if they are on here)

I knew there was no K in Irish, not sure how the lack of other letters passed me by Grin

Whoshotjr · 22/03/2025 11:29

Yes, correcting a C to a K is definitely a mistake if you want an Irish language spelling.
There are no letters j, k, q, v, w, x, y, z traditionally, although you sometimes see some of them today in words of foreign origin, eg zú for zoo (pronounced the same).

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