Benefit cuts proposal

[Charliechoosecarefully]

I just wanted it to have a specific thread:-

Kendall says government to consult on merging JSA and ESA benefits.

Kendall says WCA being scrapped, with Pip assessment process being used instead - will be scrapped in 2028.

Kendall says 'right to try' will let people on sickness benefits try work without immediately having benefits cut.

Kendall says UC payments being rebalanced, with standard rate going up, and some health top-ups frozen or cut.

Kendall says reassessments for people on universal credit with health top-ups to be beefed up

Kendall says universal credit claimants with most severe disabilities will not face reassessment

Kendall confirms Pip eligibility rules to be tightened, and assessment process to be reviewed - 4 pointed needed in one descriptor.

Kendall says under-22s could be prevented from claiming health top-up for universal credit

Sourced from the guardian.

Well they're clearly not paying for their own food and board, are they?

My DS is 16 and claims PIP so this is going to impact him.

DS won’t be eligible for universal credit
due to savings he has so I’m not sure he’ll be impacted by the changes for under 22 year olds.

I’m hoping that these changes mean government does make it so DS can find employment.

Some people will never be able to. You must understand that?

Rubbish, there is no such conceptual shift because they are increasing the benefits for perfectly abled people who are between jobs and who have the least difficulty and cost for daily living and are less likely to be discriminated against by employers when getting a job.

They are stepping in more for those with no difficulties from disability, and withdrawing from those who have difficulties.

Won’t they be in the never reassessed group?

If they were interested in getting people to work the civil service wouldn't have brought back in a mandatory arbitrary amount of days people were back in the office.

The best way to get people who have health issues into work is to have decent jobs that are flexible and offer home working.

My DD has narcolepsy. She works for HMRC. Pre pandemic she was part time. Since the pandemic she went full time. Her job is, according to her boss and their boss, perfectly capable of remaining wfh. But she's been mandated to the office 3 days and they have no flexibility (blanket ban on flexible working requests atm). The office she was based in was closed during Covid. The one she's in now involves booking a hot desk so not even required in the office for team cohesion or working together.
She'll end up back to part time once her boss can no longer allow her full wfh.

Illegals immigrants don’t get benefits, because they’re usually undetected, or have disappeared into the community. The people we house in hotels etc get 10 pounds a week for telephone top ups.
Those who are here and being assessed, if they are in housing they get £37 per week to cover everything.

It would be very difficult to claim twice or use a fake ID - PIP and ESA require medical evidence from GPs and consultants.

With 4 points in one section and the mobility section not being changed you'll be fine.

This will likely impact new claims (they can't reassess everyone in one go) and renewals.

And it'll still be a good way off as it all has to be finalised, agreed and then implemented

What benefits do illegal immigrants get?

illegal immigrants are on benefits until their asylum claims are processed and granted, which then allows them to work.

Illegal immigrants don’t get any benefits, and most legal immigrants do not get benefits either. 🤨

Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.

Never mind £10 telephone top ups! How much is it to house them in those hotels?

I'm not saying we're generous to them per se, just that there are so many it all adds up.

But those who can never work have been protected

Could it be possible for you to score 4 in an area at next review, you could appeal if needed. I'm sorry to hear this.

I hope you are right. It does scare me. I have been just not looking at the news stories about it for weeks.

The DWP have no idea about the amount of fraudulent claims submitted and approved for PIP. Please stop touting this 0% figure around as if it's in anyway robust. The amount of surveillance you would have to undertake on each claimant to even begin to prove that they had exaggerated or manufactured their health conditions would be extremely expensive and impossible to resource. Not to mention the intrusion and human rights issues that would be brought up for claimants.

There are also lots of claims that aren't completely fraudulent but are in a grey area where the costs of the additional health difficulties faced by people don't necessarily warrant the government stepping in and helping with PIP in the way it currently does. Anyone that has terrible eyesight or rubbish teeth will know that the luck of the draw sometimes means that our physical and mental health costs us more money than the average person We can't expect the government to pick up the bill for every additional cost we incur because of this.

No it wasn’t. You can’t claim twice, it’s all by your NI and there is no way to get an extra NI.

And GPs don’t just go by what people say. You need a ton of medical evidence with your NHS# to get PIP from hospital, consultants and so on.

But it says it is been cut so the long term sick get less. How is that protecting ppl. When you have to pay for extra stuff being disabled???

Well that’s me fucked then. Without PIP I won’t be able to pay for the monthly osteopath appointments and for the supplements I take which mean that my conditions are managed to the point where I can at least work part time. So I won’t have any pay or PIP, brilliant.

As for the young people/mental health crisis, I presume they’re going to be funneling money into providing actual services which successfully manage mental health problems? Otherwise these young people aren’t suddenly going to find themselves magically better and able to join the workforce. Strangely I haven’t seen any mention of that though.

From what I'm reading on here now you can't claim until 22.

So what about severely disabled young adults who their parents can't claim for anymore but they can't claim in their own right either?

What do they live on? Who pays for their carers/therapies now?

Whatever, seems like even when the facts say otherwise you decide to cling on to the ableist narrative that there’s a ton of skivers claiming PIP. I don’t blame you, the propaganda swamping our news feeds an telly for decades has repeated this message. It’s just too bad you can’t see through it.

Balanced ?!?

It changes nothing from what they initially said.
Theyre throwing disabled people under the bus.
Theyre throwing young adults under the bus. Those in foster care first example. Or those with either families too poor to care for them or toxic families.
The change to 4 points means the vast majority of people will miss out of the daily element of PIP.

The only thing that makes sense is to have a common evaluation between PIP and UC. If it was based on the current UC stuff, it’d be better Vut if course it won’t.

They are not on benefits. They only get Asylum Support which is not a benefit.