Benefit cuts proposal

[Charliechoosecarefully]

I just wanted it to have a specific thread:-

Kendall says government to consult on merging JSA and ESA benefits.

Kendall says WCA being scrapped, with Pip assessment process being used instead - will be scrapped in 2028.

Kendall says 'right to try' will let people on sickness benefits try work without immediately having benefits cut.

Kendall says UC payments being rebalanced, with standard rate going up, and some health top-ups frozen or cut.

Kendall says reassessments for people on universal credit with health top-ups to be beefed up

Kendall says universal credit claimants with most severe disabilities will not face reassessment

Kendall confirms Pip eligibility rules to be tightened, and assessment process to be reviewed - 4 pointed needed in one descriptor.

Kendall says under-22s could be prevented from claiming health top-up for universal credit

Sourced from the guardian.

@Wildflowers99 I think it's ridiculous, I know people who are disabled and could do with more benefits but so many are disingenuous I think.

@Justsayit123 no they earn that with their partner (7k between them) but still qualify for £800 a month for therapy

They can do the pip application and then do the same if they qualify? I had to wait 18 weeks for my sons DLA to come through and I'm using it exactly as it is intended for.

Or I could just leave him to his one NHS physio session a week which will mean that he'll never progress and will 100% be physically disabled for the rest of his life. With his private therapies, he has a chance which will cost the taxpayers less in the long run if it means he won't need DLA or PIP either at all or the higher rate if he can get the therapy he needs.

Where were they in the 90s and 2000s then? No asylums or institutions then, and far lower diagnosis than we have now.

Ridiculous. That is why the ONLY the truly disabled should qualify. Nothing to do with means testing because it would be extremely challenging for a disabled person to earn that much. BUT if they did well done, what an achievement.

Oh it was a very interesting call - go on to Global Player - Tom Swarbrick programme probably the last 15 mins of the show - caller called Daniel. Needs PIP to continue to fund his CAT therapy for his autism which apparently costs him huge sums of money a month.

Liz Kendall is now on live with Andrew Marr on LBC

1000 new PIP awards a day is ridiculous. Social security will not last without reform

Well maybe both people need to work then?? We can’t afford to have one stay at home parent

1 in 3 has a health condition
1 in 4 is disabled

Ageing population which means more illness and disabilities. What do people propose long term?

So which descriptors do you think ”nebulous things like sensory requirements, something to do with executive function, people with social anxiety” would qualify for?

I think it highly so - technically speaking I have a sensory disability. Sensory covers both deafness and sight. I don't know many who wouldn't classify a person with either hearing or sight loss with a disability whether the impairment is mild to severe.

Means testing would affect so many different systems it would probably cost more than it could save.
For example, in most councils showing that you get the mobility element of PIP means you can get a Blue Badge. If only low earners could be awarded PIP, there would have to be a whole new assessment set up for Blue Badges. Because earning over some measly cut off doesn't mean you can magically walk further or get your wheelchair out of the car in a standard space.

That we differentiate between ‘having a condition’ and ‘being disabled’?

Illegal immigrants don't have access to benefits.

We means test dental treatment and eye tests. These are all elements of essential care that impact some people much more than they impact others. It isn't unprecedented to means test things like this. It's not the same as denying that people have poor eyesight or have dental issues. It just means they are in a position to pay for their own treatment/tests etc

That we differentiate between ‘having a condition’ and ‘being disabled’?

people don't want that though. Economically we are fucked

How is means testing it appropriate,

Why is any means testing appropriate?

That’s asylum seekers, their numbers are very low. It’s not the same as illegal immigrants

I see these types of people every day at work. Benefits have done nothing but enable their addiction, embed their MH issues, and isolate them from the world.

This is why we URGENTLY need to sort out the younger generation. Otherwise there will be nothing to for anyone and society will collapse.

We all need to take personal responsibility.

Hospital transport or voluntary transport?

My old church used to run a free service paid for by fundraising.

Disabled people can get a bus pass.

It’s the need that counts, not the way people use it. Maybe she uses it to pay bills to offset costs her disability brings elsewhere. I’ve said this a lot on MN, but worth reiterating. Unless you live with someone 24/7, have access to and the knowledge to understand their medical records, and are privy to the information on their benefit claim, you have absolutely no idea what is genuine and what is not. And if ‘Emily’ was the subject of that BBC report, l would point out that what appeared on the screen is not necessarily all there was. The BBC are very skilled in getting their bias across, and all I’ve seen in the run up to these cuts is a slew of articles in the media and online, designed to denigrate disabled claimants, to pave the way for the cuts. Happens every single time. Don’t know why people still fall for it.

PIP is really hard to get. You don’t receive it due to historical bullying. She will have had to provide evidence of some significant trauma. I sent over 40 pieces of evidence in my original claim. 20 plus in my latest renewal. They will contact my GP, my psychologist and my psychiatrist.

@Secretmeetings you are deluded if you think it's just the young! Even if every young people
worked there aren't enough them hence why we are fucked.

We all need to take personal responsibility.

Blaming the young only isn't doing that.