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Benefit cuts proposal

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Charliechoosecarefully · 18/03/2025 13:35

I just wanted it to have a specific thread:-

Kendall says government to consult on merging JSA and ESA benefits.

Kendall says WCA being scrapped, with Pip assessment process being used instead - will be scrapped in 2028.

Kendall says 'right to try' will let people on sickness benefits try work without immediately having benefits cut.

Kendall says UC payments being rebalanced, with standard rate going up, and some health top-ups frozen or cut.

Kendall says reassessments for people on universal credit with health top-ups to be beefed up

Kendall says universal credit claimants with most severe disabilities will not face reassessment

Kendall confirms Pip eligibility rules to be tightened, and assessment process to be reviewed - 4 pointed needed in one descriptor.

Kendall says under-22s could be prevented from claiming health top-up for universal credit

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CentralLimit · 18/03/2025 18:13

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Mirabai · 18/03/2025 18:13

Lavenderflower · 18/03/2025 18:08

I think it highly so - technically speaking I have a sensory disability. Sensory covers both deafness and sight. I don't know many who wouldn't classify a person with either hearing or sight loss with a disability whether the impairment is mild to severe.

I’m fairly sure she’s referring to the sensory issues related to neurological disorders not sensory disabilities per se as she also mentions executive function which is a factor in ASD/ADHD. (Sorry to hear about yours btw).

APocketFullOfRye · 18/03/2025 18:15

rainingsnoring · 18/03/2025 17:48

They don't all get that at all. If there is no school available within a set distance, perhaps. My kids went to a school that was more suitable and none of them got free travel. We paid for everything. As I said, on the early morning trains, the pensioners could use their discount cards but the school kids, who had to actually get to school, could not.

If you chose not to take the nearest school that’s a choice. However you can apply if the further school is more suitable
Friends applied for their son saying his choice school played his sport ( rugby ) whereas the nearer school didn’t. So he got the free travel ( plus his three younger siblings when they joined ). Which seems fare. Only his sport wasn’t rugby, he’d been playing football with my son since the age of four! and had never played rugby. He didn’t take it up when he joined the school either.

So
Free travel is available if you are offered a school far away only or if you chose one ( esp significant in grammar areas ). You can appeal the free travel pass if you have a reason to do so.

If a parent chooses a school far away I think it’s right that they should pay for their children to get to it.

Secretmeetings · 18/03/2025 18:15

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:02

If you are disabled you are disabled, no buts FACT. How is means testing it appropriate, basically claiming some truly disabled aren't....

But there is a difference between using a wheelchair & having adhd surely?

Yes hence a reset of the system. Scrap it and start again.

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:16

Yes hence a reset of the system. Scrap it and start again.

we need a complete reform of it & the tax system & the NHS but it won't happen.

Wildflowers99 · 18/03/2025 18:17

Scutterbug · 18/03/2025 18:13

PIP is really hard to get. You don’t receive it due to historical bullying. She will have had to provide evidence of some significant trauma. I sent over 40 pieces of evidence in my original claim. 20 plus in my latest renewal. They will contact my GP, my psychologist and my psychiatrist.

It’s not hard to get. Ultimately half of applicants are awarded by the end of the process.

Rosscameasdoody · 18/03/2025 18:17

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:10

How is means testing it appropriate,

Why is any means testing appropriate?

I can answer that. It’s not. It’s a race to the bottom. It’s expensive to administer and too often the cut off points are set so low that people genuinely in need lose out for the sake of a few pence. Disability benefits are universal for a reason - they’re designed to contribute to the cost of living with a significant disability. Means testing them is counter productive to that. HTH.

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:17

As I said, on the early morning trains, the pensioners could use their discount cards but the school kids, who had to actually get to school, could not.

Another stupid policy

Porcuine20 · 18/03/2025 18:18

There are too many people on benefits but the government needs to address the root causes. I have a lot of sympathy for young people at the moment - many jobs zero hours contracts, unpredictable and low pay with constant stress about living costs, massive changes due to AI on the horizon, no real sense of community in lots of places, house prices insane. When I was in my early 20s (early 2000s) I could afford to live very comfortably on £21000 a year, pay rent in London, buy clothes, go out, have holidays, it was great, I felt rich and full of hope. Things are very different for the majority of young people now. I can’t blame them for struggling with anxiety and depression and not seeing the point in low-paid and insecure work that leaves them knackered and no better off than if they manage to get benefits.

KindleAndCake · 18/03/2025 18:18

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but they'll then save a ton of money on the carers allowance that then won't be able to be claimed once the PIP has stopped. The carers will lose out because they'll still be caring, but the government will win!

Simplynotsimple · 18/03/2025 18:19

Wildflowers99 · 18/03/2025 18:05

Where were they in the 90s and 2000s then? No asylums or institutions then, and far lower diagnosis than we have now.

Oh not quite, though there were units and such. My mother was a community nurse in LD so often had overnights doing respite care. The specialist school near us was a joke, somewhere kids were just left with crayons and paper all day whilst the staff patronisingly patted each other on the back about how nice it was for these kids to be in school at all. Small area so they put children with ‘behaviour issues’ but no LD in there with no prospect of an actual education. Most of those children I worked with would be in mainstream these days, as you’ve irritatingly found out. Far lower diagnosis because I’ve said multiple times, the traits of ND increase with every generationand become more noticeable along with social changes that make it more prevalent. But back in the late 90s/2000 there was already a shift in social care (my mother felt her role would be phased out eventually) and a lot of young people with ND often didn’t go to school at all. I myself dropped out at 15 after the pre mentioned utterly awful time I went through due to undiagnosed ND that lead to a full mental breakdown.

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:19

I can answer that. It’s not. It’s a race to the bottom.

Unfortunately we don't live in utopia. Yes, a rich country would have millions to uplift its citizens but economically we are slipping behind so it's not sustainable to never means test anything. HTH.

Scutterbug · 18/03/2025 18:19

Wildflowers99 · 18/03/2025 18:17

It’s not hard to get. Ultimately half of applicants are awarded by the end of the process.

I know far more people turned down for it than receiving it. I disagree that it’s easy to get. Just look at disability forums and see the amount of threads on the topic!

JudgeJ · 18/03/2025 18:20

kinkytoes · 18/03/2025 14:21

I'll get flamed for this but I really wish they'd cut back on benefits for illegal immigrants than for disabled people.

I cannot believe Labour are attacking the most vulnerable in our society (I also include the elderly in that) 😢 They wonder why mental health is at an all time low!

I'd be happy to see both!

Wildflowers99 · 18/03/2025 18:20

Scutterbug · 18/03/2025 18:19

I know far more people turned down for it than receiving it. I disagree that it’s easy to get. Just look at disability forums and see the amount of threads on the topic!

Virtually everyone is awarded on here. Same goes for DLA.

Kirbert2 · 18/03/2025 18:20

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:02

If you are disabled you are disabled, no buts FACT. How is means testing it appropriate, basically claiming some truly disabled aren't....

But there is a difference between using a wheelchair & having adhd surely?

Are we really going to go back to the days where only physical, visual disabilities are classed as an actual disability such as using a wheelchair?

Secretmeetings · 18/03/2025 18:20

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:13

@Secretmeetings you are deluded if you think it's just the young! Even if every young people
worked there aren't enough them hence why we are fucked.

We all need to take personal responsibility.

Blaming the young only isn't doing that.

Not just the young but in the current set up it appears to be a life choice. That option needs to be removed.

No just disability but benefits system in general no longer works. We need a new system.

Wildflowers99 · 18/03/2025 18:21

Kirbert2 · 18/03/2025 18:20

Are we really going to go back to the days where only physical, visual disabilities are classed as an actual disability such as using a wheelchair?

To a certain extent, including financially, we will have no choice.

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:22

There are too many people on benefits but the government needs to address the root causes. I have a lot of sympathy for young people at the moment - many jobs zero hours contracts, unpredictable and low pay with constant stress about living costs, massive changes due to AI on the horizon, no real sense of community in lots of places, house prices insane. When I was in my early 20s (early 2000s) I could afford to live very comfortably on £21000 a year, pay rent in London, buy clothes, go out, have holidays, it was great, I felt rich and full of hope. Things are very different for the majority of young people now. I can’t blame them for struggling with anxiety and depression and not seeing the point in low-paid and insecure work that leaves them knackered and no better off than if they manage to get benefits.

I agree that there isn't much hope for young people & think it does explain the increase in mental health.

We never recovered from the 08 crash & governments didn't invest in young people & here we are.

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:22

To a certain extent, including financially, we will have no choice.

I agree. No reform & the system will just collapse.

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:23

Not just the young but in the current set up it appears to be a life choice. That option needs to be removed.

No just disability but benefits system in general no longer works. We need a new system.

Any change has to target all generations though.

Simplynotsimple · 18/03/2025 18:23

Scutterbug · 18/03/2025 18:19

I know far more people turned down for it than receiving it. I disagree that it’s easy to get. Just look at disability forums and see the amount of threads on the topic!

And if you look at the Relationships forum you’d believe every woman is in a relationship with a feckless man who couldn’t find his own arsehole unless his wife wrote him a specific list of instructions on how to go looking for it. Threads on MN is not reflective of the majority.

Kirbert2 · 18/03/2025 18:24

Wildflowers99 · 18/03/2025 18:21

To a certain extent, including financially, we will have no choice.

I never thought I'd almost feel grateful that my son is a wheelchair user if it does go down that route. Though it isn't his only disability.

sharkysharks · 18/03/2025 18:24

I'll get flamed for this but I really wish they'd cut back on benefits for illegal immigrants than for disabled people.

How much is that bill? Illegal immigrants are always going to be here.

Pootle40 · 18/03/2025 18:24

Ablondiebutagoody · 18/03/2025 14:12

It's a start but there will need to be more. The number of claimants is ballooning out of control.

This. Many people and I’m sure we all know people like this would much rather scrounge than work.

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