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To think the average Londoner is better looking?

287 replies

raelech · 16/03/2025 09:11

I’m from a town near Manchester. Often go to towns nearby and into Manchester. There are all sorts of people of course.

I am currently in London and I can’t get out of my head that the average person here is much more attractive than the average person outside of London. I can’t place why. Is it that people here have more dosh for skincare?😂

OP posts:
IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 17/03/2025 10:21

Attractiveness is subjective. And also, "Londoners" come from everywhere, they just live there.

TakeawayAugust · 17/03/2025 10:22

Porcelainpig · 17/03/2025 10:15

Have you been to the rough parts of London?

What in your opinion are now the rough parts of London

Sadcafe · 17/03/2025 10:22

Lambington · 16/03/2025 09:22

Yanbu. It's the way Londoners hold themselves. Comfortable in their own skin.
They are also generally kinder and more tolerant than those in other parts of the country which comes out in their faces - a smile makes everone look more attractive than a frown.
People in the "regions" always seem to be scowling / complaining / blaming someone else. Not attractive behaviours.

Kinder, more tolerant a smile makes them look more attractive I must have missed something on my occasional trips down from the collieries and smog filled north, most Londoners I see look like they’ve been sucking on a bag of lemons , especially if you dare smile and say hello, which us unwashed, uneducated, hand me down northern folk tend to do

Addictforanex · 17/03/2025 10:22

I remember a few years ago I found myself one day walking up Bond street in London and the next day walking up one of the shopping streets in Dundee. Was there for a family funeral. Difference was stark.

London - stylish wealthy looking slim people, polished and animated, holding coffees, bottles of water, or their designer bags. Dundee - so many people overweight, using a mobility scooter or crutches, head to toe in polyester, wearing jobby catchers - swigging lager or energy drinks, or smoking, carrying tesco carrier bags. I said something to my dad and he said - “of course it’s different, how many people wandering up Bond street will be “on the sick?”. Made me laugh and gave me a dose of reality.

ViciousCurrentBun · 17/03/2025 10:25

It’s all about how much money an area has and that’s the bottom line.

There are two villages within a few miles of where I live. One is an ex pit village and the other is where people that need a lot of money to buy live, rich retirees and commuters. They are perfect examples of how money changes the look of a place and people

With one it’s all Barbour jackets people tying up their horses in the pub garden with the other it’s all trackie bottoms and badly made knock off designer handbags.

wizzywig · 17/03/2025 10:27

PuppyMonkey · 16/03/2025 11:55

Outside of London people use too much fabric softener and it smells really strong. I think it is a class identifier to smell strongly of Lenor or Comfort.

This is gold. Grin

Absolutely agree. And it makes sense why there is always a strong smell of detergent when I'm doing a food shop in an Iceland. It's Eau de Povvo

Itsalljustinmyhead · 17/03/2025 10:29

Sadcafe · 17/03/2025 10:22

Kinder, more tolerant a smile makes them look more attractive I must have missed something on my occasional trips down from the collieries and smog filled north, most Londoners I see look like they’ve been sucking on a bag of lemons , especially if you dare smile and say hello, which us unwashed, uneducated, hand me down northern folk tend to do

Good grief, we have a professional Northerner!

Husbandrippedmeoff · 17/03/2025 10:30

raelech · 16/03/2025 09:11

I’m from a town near Manchester. Often go to towns nearby and into Manchester. There are all sorts of people of course.

I am currently in London and I can’t get out of my head that the average person here is much more attractive than the average person outside of London. I can’t place why. Is it that people here have more dosh for skincare?😂

I'm also in the North West and I've noticed this too.

Itsalljustinmyhead · 17/03/2025 10:32

wizzywig · 17/03/2025 10:27

Absolutely agree. And it makes sense why there is always a strong smell of detergent when I'm doing a food shop in an Iceland. It's Eau de Povvo

Edited

Same here, you can actually smell it wafting from people as they walk down the road. I use a small dash of Fairy so my jumpers aren’t scratchy, does that count?

Goldenbear · 17/03/2025 10:33

rainingsnoring · 17/03/2025 10:11

Of course I don't mean that all Brits are unattractive, just generally less so imo.
I think a lot of Brits take less care to look after their health and this shows, especially as they get older. There are a lot overweight and obese people here. Brits don't tend to dress well compared to many Europeans. Britain is also a poor country in some areas and there is certainly a lot of deprivation overall. This really shows too. No specific features but I would say that mixed race people tend to be more attractive. I'm pretty sure that this is borne out in studies.

I don't think it is true about fashion, in that British fashion has always led the way in trend setting and has many iconic designers, it is silly to argue otherwise but it isn't conventional and conservative which is sometimes what the Europeans admire especially southern Europeans.

Tbh what you are listing could be said about many countries so I don't think those reasons are very valid, equally, as we are an Island there has always been diversity of a gene pool and Britain is multicultural and not just in London.

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 17/03/2025 10:34

People in central London certainly tend to be taller in my experience. As a 6' woman I notice people's heights simply in relation to my own eye line and it's very rare for me to be the tallest person (or even the tallest woman) in a space in central London.

wizzywig · 17/03/2025 10:36

Ddakji · 17/03/2025 09:43

Speaking as a lifelong Londoner - the tube varies. Rush hour, forget it. But outside of that, although people aren’t chatty they will certainly help if asked.

The big difference I’ve noticed is customer service in shops, especially supermarkets, where in London it’s dire and outside London cashiers are actually friendly and chatty.

I was amused by the reference to African churchgoers. Yes, the older men and women get very dressed up for church. But when we got DD baptised, we were the only white people at our local church, and most of the younger women were dressed as though they were about to go clubbing, but in white. Tiny little skintight white dresses. Their spike heels kept getting caught in the grilles in the floor of the nave. It was a very cheerful affair!

Maybe that's just the people you associate with darling?

aliceinawonderland · 17/03/2025 10:38

In central London, most people will be on the lunch hour from work or if not working then meeting friends and will be dressed accordingly.

But I do agree that walking everywhere and using public transport is a great way to not put on weight!

Ddakji · 17/03/2025 10:40

wizzywig · 17/03/2025 10:36

Maybe that's just the people you associate with darling?

What?

Ddakji · 17/03/2025 10:46

wizzywig · 17/03/2025 10:36

Maybe that's just the people you associate with darling?

Baptisms take place as part of the Sunday service in this church, and there were 6 babies being baptised. I didn’t know anyone else there apart from my own family and godparents.

Im still not sure what you mean by your comment though.

wizzywig · 17/03/2025 10:52

@Ddakji I was trying to be funny

cheezncrackers · 17/03/2025 10:58

I think you're right OP - particularly if you're talking about central London and people who are on their way to/from work.

I live just outside London and I would say that most people I know take good care of themselves. They have the money, which definitely helps, but they exercise and make an effort to look well-groomed and well-dressed. And let's face it, if you are a woman with a professional job, looking good is an essential part of that job, but many of the men also take care with their appearance.

My DPs live in a rural area and it's obvious that looking good is not something that many people I see there care about. It's not just about wearing practical clothes for a rural environment (which I totally get), it's about much lower standards of personal grooming and dress and it's very obvious.

ElleintheWoods · 17/03/2025 12:13

RampantIvy · 17/03/2025 08:10

I bet not so many Italian men have beer bellies and plumbers cleavages.

@ElleintheWoods yet on the Style and Beauty threads where out of towners want to visit London and ask for style advice they are told that they will stand out if they are smart as most Londoners dress very casually all the time.

They do dress casually… Depending on where you are, too.

I’m a pretentious person so when I go to London, it’ll be a private members club/ finance type setting, and I know men will still be in suits, so jeans and trainers won’t cut it. Same with theatre, jeans and trainers is fine but I actually want it to feel special, it’s my one excuse to dress up. Another reason why I might go into London is high end shopping/ browsing, so again it feels better to look the part among the Chinese and Arabs.

Now. On my weekend train down from The North, most women had blow dries, makeup, nails done, nice clothes… I was asking myself if im a proper northern girl now as I’d done the same! It’s definitely not a very ‘London’ look, I’d say the average London girl is way more edgy.

But we certainly headed down and brought the average up, not down 😉 Also remember that the average tourist visiting London must be quite wealthy due to travel cost alone, so think they bring the average up, not down 😂 Stay dressy and flashy 😉 I genuinely sometimes go to London to be able to go to places where being dressed up ‘fits in’, as it’s just a bit weird flashing your designer dress and bag at Costa in Stoke-on-Trent 😋

Please add tongue in cheek to all these comments.

ElleintheWoods · 17/03/2025 12:15

Oh and I looove people watching on the morning commute in certain tube stations… Love seeing gorgeous young women really embrace the fashion and carry looks with confidence, and that being their normal.

Different world but beautiful world.

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 17/03/2025 12:18

ElleintheWoods · 17/03/2025 12:13

They do dress casually… Depending on where you are, too.

I’m a pretentious person so when I go to London, it’ll be a private members club/ finance type setting, and I know men will still be in suits, so jeans and trainers won’t cut it. Same with theatre, jeans and trainers is fine but I actually want it to feel special, it’s my one excuse to dress up. Another reason why I might go into London is high end shopping/ browsing, so again it feels better to look the part among the Chinese and Arabs.

Now. On my weekend train down from The North, most women had blow dries, makeup, nails done, nice clothes… I was asking myself if im a proper northern girl now as I’d done the same! It’s definitely not a very ‘London’ look, I’d say the average London girl is way more edgy.

But we certainly headed down and brought the average up, not down 😉 Also remember that the average tourist visiting London must be quite wealthy due to travel cost alone, so think they bring the average up, not down 😂 Stay dressy and flashy 😉 I genuinely sometimes go to London to be able to go to places where being dressed up ‘fits in’, as it’s just a bit weird flashing your designer dress and bag at Costa in Stoke-on-Trent 😋

Please add tongue in cheek to all these comments.

London style is definitely more casual and undone than other cities in the UK. I moved out of London a decade ago but I can’t quite shake my London attitude to dressing up. It’s not so much a lack of making an effort, but more a horror of looking like you’ve worked too hard to make an effort, IYSWIM. The complete opposite to Liverpool, for example, where the girls look fabulous but in a very different way!

HundredMilesAnHour · 17/03/2025 12:19

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 17/03/2025 12:18

London style is definitely more casual and undone than other cities in the UK. I moved out of London a decade ago but I can’t quite shake my London attitude to dressing up. It’s not so much a lack of making an effort, but more a horror of looking like you’ve worked too hard to make an effort, IYSWIM. The complete opposite to Liverpool, for example, where the girls look fabulous but in a very different way!

This is exactly it. The London way of dressing is all about not looking you’re trying, and most definitely not looking like you’re trying hard!

RampantIvy · 17/03/2025 12:36

80smonster · 17/03/2025 09:20

Never seen a posh part of the north, where is that exactly? Do you go for a walk because there is literally nothing else to do? Good thing you’ve got your friendly manners to fall back on. LOL.

How to spot a Londoner without them saying they are from London.

CleverButScatty · 17/03/2025 12:36

It's probably to do with affluence.
If you are visiting London for a couple of days you are likely to be in areas inhabited by the very wealthy or those who choose to spend their time in very trendy areas.
I'm sure if you went to Tesco's on a Saturday morning in an average residential area, or outside school dropoff on a normal day you would see a normal range of people.

GellerYeller · 17/03/2025 12:37

HundredMilesAnHour · 17/03/2025 12:19

This is exactly it. The London way of dressing is all about not looking you’re trying, and most definitely not looking like you’re trying hard!

I totally agree with this.
Re: the tongue in cheek comments about people who smell of detergent… The wealthiest family I know absolutely REEK of Lenor!
Off topic but when did scenting every aspect of your house and person become a thing? Is it the Mrs Hinch effect?!

HundredMilesAnHour · 17/03/2025 12:47

GellerYeller · 17/03/2025 12:37

I totally agree with this.
Re: the tongue in cheek comments about people who smell of detergent… The wealthiest family I know absolutely REEK of Lenor!
Off topic but when did scenting every aspect of your house and person become a thing? Is it the Mrs Hinch effect?!

I’m a Londoner and I scent everything. I was only just spraying my bed with Tallow & Ash Duvet Day fabric spray a few mins ago. OMG! Does this mean I need to move to the North?!! 😂😋