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To want 9s not 7s for my child in their GCSEs?

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ZeldaFighter · 13/03/2025 17:40

Child is a model student and no problems with behaviour or attendance. Definitely seems intelligent and diligently completes homework, often without prompting.

Report is 6s and 7s. Husband is pleased and says they're As and Bs. He thinks only kids in private schools doing extended papers get 9s.

I got As, Bs and Cs many years ago but I always strived for As. AIBU to think they should be getting 9s or at least striving for them?

OP posts:
UnintentionalArcher · 13/03/2025 21:09

MellowCritic · 13/03/2025 20:53

This isn't correct. Alot of children do achieve 9s and if you look at or have experience in the grade boundaries it's achievable with hard work. I'm sure all parents would love all 9s so let's not be too hard on op.

Plenty in number, no doubt, but not as a proportion.

‘In 2024, five percent of GCSE entries in England were awarded the highest grade of 9.’

(The bold is not mine! From the original website - realise it could look pass agg.)

Totally agree with that hard work is important, though, and that all students should aspire to do as well as they can.

WombatChocolate · 13/03/2025 21:09

Do you mean you think your DC is capable of 9s?

A good number of DC are capable and get 9s. For them, yes to be satisfied with 7 is to lack aspiration.

We don’t know the ability of this DC.

A lot of people do lack aspiration and have a lowest common denominator attitude. ie lots of people do well to get a 4, so everyone should be thrilled with a 7.

Thats not right. We should all hope and want our DC to fulfil their potential and achieve the best they can. For some that is 9 and for others 7 and for others 4.

The UK is beset with many parents who have limited aspirations for their kids. They say they want their kids to be happy and often this means that if they don’t want to work hard, then that’s okay and if they underachieve it doesn’t matter. They often think that any suggestion that a DC could do better is a form of abuse and to be shot down or discouraged as kids can’t cope with that. A very few can’t, but most benefit from a healthy level of aspiration and encouragement to work hard, push themselves and have high expectations.

Its unclear from OP if she is having this healthy expectation and feels the school lacks aspiration - and this is often the case where schools focus on getting people to L4 or 7 and don’t seem interested in the able who could get 9s. Or it could be a pipe dream and unrealistic for this child.

But lots 9s are achieved in state schools. In many subjects around 8-10% of kids achieve 9 in that subject. That’s thousands of kids every year. Most schools have reasonable numbers of such kids. Some are under undue pressure but lots aren’t. And some could do much better than the grades they get. Often a 9 is achieved with less than 70%.

Thisvisnt to belittle lower grades which might be a huge achievement. But 9scsre not like hens teeth.

Gogogo12345 · 13/03/2025 21:09

ZeldaFighter · 13/03/2025 17:40

Child is a model student and no problems with behaviour or attendance. Definitely seems intelligent and diligently completes homework, often without prompting.

Report is 6s and 7s. Husband is pleased and says they're As and Bs. He thinks only kids in private schools doing extended papers get 9s.

I got As, Bs and Cs many years ago but I always strived for As. AIBU to think they should be getting 9s or at least striving for them?

Maybe they just don't have the ability to do so. Those are passes anyway aren't they?

BeyondMyWits · 13/03/2025 21:10

My daughters did their best, they worked hard, were relatively "bright"... not mumsnet-bright obvs. They gained a variety of grades at GCSE 6/7/8 - no nines...
They both came out of uni with firsts. (English, Pharmacology), so no, I don't think 9s matter that much in the long term scheme of things, certainly would not be putting any pressure on an already high achieving student.

ChuffyChuffnell · 13/03/2025 21:16

One of mine got nearly all 9s. He was absolutely driven, and determined to get them, but has a natural aptitude for some subjects.
His sibling got 5s-7s, and we were equally proud - both had tried their hardest.

We never put any pressure on them about grades, only about making sure they had prepared properly, and were taking enough breaks.

StMarie4me · 13/03/2025 21:17

If you put that much pressure on your child then a burnt out child is what you’ll get.

Good grief. Imagine telling your child who is achieving 6 & 7 that they’re not good enough?

Wow.

Genevieva · 13/03/2025 21:20

My strong suggestion is to stop obsessing over grades. Your child is on track to do well. They may do even better. Who knows? You will find out on results day. No amount of expectation is going to change them. Your job is to love your child for who they are, encourage them in all they do and reassure them that their best is good enough, even if it isn't a 9.

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 13/03/2025 21:22

Derail but I hate the system of numbers. Why can't we have letters? Everyone is mentally converting them!

Genevieva · 13/03/2025 21:23

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 13/03/2025 21:22

Derail but I hate the system of numbers. Why can't we have letters? Everyone is mentally converting them!

There is an inbuilt future grade 10, to allow for grade inflation! They should simply have prevented that from happening.

BubbleGumOnShoe · 13/03/2025 21:24

Why?
what are you trying to compensate for/proove?
i am sure they are doing their best.

lifeonmars100 · 13/03/2025 21:28

many many years ago after I got my A levels I got into uni, not one of the famous prestigious ones but I got a place which to this day I think is an achievement. My dad said to me " it is a second rate place that takes second rate people like you". That comment can still sting today decades later. Please take pride in your child for who they are rather than who you think they should be.

ItsUpToYou · 13/03/2025 21:29

TurquoiseDress · 13/03/2025 18:59

Ok so I've read a bit more

So a 9 is equivalent of a double A*

What next...a triple A*

Well that’s probably what they said when As were no longer rare and they added “A star” in. To avoid eventually ending up with “A* recurring”, they changed the system to numbers so they have the space to increase to 10 (11, 12…) when necessary.

(I can’t seem to include the asterisk for “A star” without making it bold 😄)

lifeonmars100 · 13/03/2025 21:30

Crinkleybottomburger · 13/03/2025 20:15

Once the child has their GCSE results and have achieved enough to get to their next stage, you will see GCSEs are just a stepping stone.

That is what I said to my child, GCSEs are door openers, see them as the start of the journey not the destination.

Moonlightdust · 13/03/2025 21:36

This generation has so much pressure on them. My poor teenager is in burnout because of it. Just encourage and support your child. GCSEs are not the be all and end all! To get 9s is tough! My eldest got mostly 7s & 8s with a couple of 6s and we were proud as punch! As long as they’re happy and healthy, and able to do their best - who cares!

niadainud · 13/03/2025 21:45

MellowCritic · 13/03/2025 20:53

This isn't correct. Alot of children do achieve 9s and if you look at or have experience in the grade boundaries it's achievable with hard work. I'm sure all parents would love all 9s so let's not be too hard on op.

Of course it's correct to say that the vast majority of candidates don't achieve a 9. It may be "alot" of children altogether, but it's a very small proportion; there will be many pupils who will never reach that level no matter how hard they work.

Lyannaa · 13/03/2025 21:47

GCSEs are much harder since the introduction of 9-1. YABU.

niadainud · 13/03/2025 21:48

ItsUpToYou · 13/03/2025 21:29

Well that’s probably what they said when As were no longer rare and they added “A star” in. To avoid eventually ending up with “A* recurring”, they changed the system to numbers so they have the space to increase to 10 (11, 12…) when necessary.

(I can’t seem to include the asterisk for “A star” without making it bold 😄)

Edited

This is what I have always assumed from when the numbered grades were introduced with 1 as the lowest, but do you know it for a fact? I'd be interested to see it stated that this was always the intention.

EconomyClassRockstar · 13/03/2025 21:49

I think if you strived for As and came away with As Bs and Cs, it's a bit much to then expect your child to get all 9s. He inherited his intelligence from his parents. So absolutely fine to strive for 9s but don't be disappointed if he doesn't get them.

User79853257976 · 13/03/2025 21:49

A 9 is an A**, so better than what you got. It’s not about just turning up and doing the homework. There is an element of natural flair that gets them a 9. Your daughter might have that, but 6s and 7s are good.

Lyannaa · 13/03/2025 21:51

EconomyClassRockstar · 13/03/2025 21:49

I think if you strived for As and came away with As Bs and Cs, it's a bit much to then expect your child to get all 9s. He inherited his intelligence from his parents. So absolutely fine to strive for 9s but don't be disappointed if he doesn't get them.

Exactly. WTF do parents expect their child to achieve things that they couldn’t? So unreasonable.

WhatGoesHere · 13/03/2025 21:53

MellowCritic · 13/03/2025 20:53

This isn't correct. Alot of children do achieve 9s and if you look at or have experience in the grade boundaries it's achievable with hard work. I'm sure all parents would love all 9s so let's not be too hard on op.

Really, 5% a lot?

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kaos2 · 13/03/2025 21:55

7 is an A but yes some children do get 9’s…
my dd got them across the board and some of her friends did too in state school so it’s not that rare

Lyannaa · 13/03/2025 21:59

Children who get 9s across the board are Oxbridge material usually.

WhatGoesHere · 13/03/2025 21:59

kaos2 · 13/03/2025 21:55

7 is an A but yes some children do get 9’s…
my dd got them across the board and some of her friends did too in state school so it’s not that rare

It's is incredibly rare to get all 9s ... only 1200 16 year old students got all 9s out of over 670,000 students. That's like 0.2% ...

https://www.ocr.org.uk/about/policy-and-public-affairs/articles/results-trends-2024-gcses/#:~:text=More%20than%205.6%20million%20GCSE,students%20in%20England%20this%20summer.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/infographic-gcse-results-2024/infographics-for-gcse-results-2024-accessible

WhatGoesHere · 13/03/2025 22:01

Breakdown of all 9s.

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