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To ask what really combats misogyny? What can I do?

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seriouslysara · 12/03/2025 21:25

Feeling miserable and angry after recent news stories, a sentence that's always true probably but right now I mean the vile cowardly man who took the lives of three loved and innocent women and the popularity of that awful content creator.

What can people do to make a difference and reduce violent misogyny? What actually helps? Are there examples of things in other countries that work or make it worse?

Here's everything I can think of:

  1. Donate to refuges and campaigners
  2. Raise these issues with our children and check what they're accessing online
  3. Be a listening ear to friends in the hope they'd tell you if they were at risk
  4. Campaign for better policing (new or different laws?)
  5. Help spread useful resources and accurate info
  6. Call out misogyny when I see it and when it's safe to
  7. Try to support women owned businesses so more women have capital
  8. Support organizations that give young people have opportunities so they're not radicalized?
  9. Book self defense classes for our girls and their friends?

I want to direct my anger somewhere to something positive. A law to campaign to change? A cause to raise money for? An action of support or resistance? A career change to help people?

Genuine question. What can I do? What can we do?

OP posts:
MyCatNamedCookingFat · 16/03/2025 13:55

Oh, and referring to groups of people as guys, or individuals in the same way -bruv, bro.

I call it out every single time. I get eye rolling but give a damn I do not.

TemporaryPosition · 16/03/2025 18:26

JHound · 16/03/2025 13:34

I mean that is clearly not true butThe difference is misogyny and sexism are normalised in a way that general crime is not.

And when it comes to misogyny and sexism and gender equality men have no interest in what women have to say. So this is an issue that only men can fix.

What do you mean by "general crime", some theories of the causes of crime are precisely that criminal behaviour is normalised. You might disagree but that's not a controversial theory.

I also don't think misogyny or sexism are normalised either. It's entirely alien to the men in my life. They're directly comparable.

OutsideLookingOut · 16/03/2025 19:27

JHound · 16/03/2025 13:28

I have zero tolerance for it in my personal life. And I mean ZERO. I think if misogynists were shunned the way lepers were in time past it would help.

I recall years ago going on a few dates with a guy who I declined to see again because he was referring to a friend of his who was, in his words “whining like a woman”.

And yet friends told me I was being too “picky” and “sensitive” in blocking him.

Also I try to support as many female led things as possible.

I wish more women would do this. Actually know their own value and refuse to be with subpar men.

JHound · 16/03/2025 19:31

TemporaryPosition · 16/03/2025 18:26

What do you mean by "general crime", some theories of the causes of crime are precisely that criminal behaviour is normalised. You might disagree but that's not a controversial theory.

I also don't think misogyny or sexism are normalised either. It's entirely alien to the men in my life. They're directly comparable.

Crime is not normalised in the way sexism and misogyny is.

It’s not. Nobody criticises you for being “oversensitive” for objecting to criminal behaviour the same way that objecting to sexism gets you laelled. It’s a terrible comparison. Only men can tackle sexism because men listen to other men. They don’t care what women think or feel.

TemporaryPosition · 16/03/2025 20:06

JHound · 16/03/2025 19:31

Crime is not normalised in the way sexism and misogyny is.

It’s not. Nobody criticises you for being “oversensitive” for objecting to criminal behaviour the same way that objecting to sexism gets you laelled. It’s a terrible comparison. Only men can tackle sexism because men listen to other men. They don’t care what women think or feel.

Because if the instance of sexism was that bad, it would be criminal? So it is by definition worse? Help me out here, what am I missing

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