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Supermarket staff wearing a keffiyeh

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Alpaccas · 07/03/2025 22:35

I saw a member of staff wearing a keffiyeh today in Sainsbury’s. Do you think it’s a bit too political for a member of staff to be wearing, whilst wearing their work uniform?

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Greywhippet · 08/03/2025 09:05

HermioneWeasley · 07/03/2025 22:46

It’s not part of the uniform and if it wasn’t intended as a political statement, it certainly has the potential to be read as one so it’s completely inappropriate and i would complain.

You have a lot of time on your hands if you can spend it making a fuss about nothing

Bluenotgreen · 08/03/2025 09:06

Alpaccas · 07/03/2025 22:39

It was clearly not cultural. It was political in this case.

Can you explain precisely how you know this? 🙄

lifeonmars100 · 08/03/2025 09:10

I doubt I would even notice let alone go online and create a post about it

Gerbilboy · 08/03/2025 09:11

People have been wearing keffiyeh long before Oct 7th as pp have pointed out; someone mentioned 20 years ago. This is when Rachel Corrie and Tom Hurndall were murdered by the IDF so it may well have been a political statement back then.

I don't deny it looks cool to wear one though.

I'm not a remotely cool person, however I and several Jews I know wear our keffiyeh in solidarity with Palestinian and worldwide indigenous suffering since the Nakba. I am also deeply sorry for the rise in both anti-Semitic hate and Islamophobia, it is possible to be all of those things at the same time.

Don't care if that makes me virtue signalling.

AzurePanda · 08/03/2025 09:11

I will never understand why a white person wearing a keffiyeh is fine and apparently to be admired but my goodness, put on something like a sombrero and it’s an appalling form of cultural appropriation.

Crinkleybottomburger · 08/03/2025 09:12

May be men should not wear kilts outside of Scotland. Especially if they’re at work.

Greywhippet · 08/03/2025 09:17

VioletVX · 08/03/2025 00:00

I know a Brighton-dwelling, allotment-tending white leftie when I see one - it’s the same demographic that throws orange paint over historic paintings or blocks the M25 in the name of Just Stop Oil. There aren’t too many Cressidas and Phoebes of Palestinian descent.

These people sound bloody great, I wish I still lived in Brighton.

AthWat · 08/03/2025 09:17

Izzy54321 · 07/03/2025 23:28

@HangryLikeTheHulk The same Palestinian's that murdered the Bibs babies? Sorry but they aren’t being blown to smithereens either, stop watching the BBC and find out how the IDF are going house to house rather than just sending in bombs.

No, you see.
Different Palestinians. Different ones.

That's kind of the whole thing.

The 14,500 Palestinian children that UNICEF report have been killed since october 7th probably, on balance, weren't "the same Palestinian's that murdered the Bibs babies". It's quite an important distinction.

It's why when Fred West murdered children, we went to his house and arrested him rather than just firebombed Gloucester. And though I'm sure there is film of the IDF going house to house, as it would be difficult for them to have never done this, that number of deaths suggest that maybe, just maybe, they are not doing it all the time.

Unfortunately this has been on the BBC, so you won't believe it. But there are many other credible sources that can back it up, if you choose to look, and don't apply a definition of "credible source" as "one that says what I want to hear."

RosesAndHellebores · 08/03/2025 09:20

Bluh · 07/03/2025 22:56

It’s not a religious item and no, it shouldn’t be worn as it’s not part of the uniform

This.

Areolaborealis · 08/03/2025 09:20

Crinkleybottomburger · 08/03/2025 09:12

May be men should not wear kilts outside of Scotland. Especially if they’re at work.

I think a better comparison is the wearing of football colours. Its not unusual for these to be banned in public places in Scotland due to the political, religious and cultural unrest that they can provoke. So you wouldn't be allowed to wear a Rangers or Celtic scarf with your work uniform, for example.

heartbroken22 · 08/03/2025 09:22

I'd book home delivery and not go out.

nextdoorsgerbil · 08/03/2025 09:25

Of course it’s not ok to use your work wear to make political statements. Especially in a customer facing role.

This item will obviously be seen as a political statement.

And I’m willing to bet that nearly all of those defending it would be ‘appalled snd outraged’ if someone wore a ‘Proud Zionist’ t-shirt whilst serving them at a shop.

Greywhippet · 08/03/2025 09:26

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 08/03/2025 05:29

I would have a lot more problems if he or she was wearing a Niqab or Burqa, mainly because you cannot tell whether it is a man or woman wearing it. But my other problem with it - and maybe I am sadly being a culturist or even a racist here - is that to me it practically screams of the oppression of the woman wearing it, and reminds me that many Muslim men think of women as being beneath them in all ways, and that far to many Islamic laws hold the women to blame for indiscretions that were actually promoted by, or carried out by, Muslim men.

I await the onslaught with broad shoulders, thickened skin, and a very sad heart.

So some Muslim men are like some other men of all faiths and nationalities then. Hating and oppressing women is sadly something that many men do. Pretending that is unique to Muslim men is just silly

Comedycook · 08/03/2025 09:27

nextdoorsgerbil · 08/03/2025 09:25

Of course it’s not ok to use your work wear to make political statements. Especially in a customer facing role.

This item will obviously be seen as a political statement.

And I’m willing to bet that nearly all of those defending it would be ‘appalled snd outraged’ if someone wore a ‘Proud Zionist’ t-shirt whilst serving them at a shop.

Exactly this.

Gingenatalie · 08/03/2025 09:29

OneAquaFatball · 07/03/2025 23:30

If someone wearing kuffiyeh in Sainos means you think it's scary to be Jewish I’m glad I follow my Judaism and not yours and I hope you feel better soon.

Free Palestine

Wow what a shitty comment.

MissyB1 · 08/03/2025 09:30

lifeonmars100 · 08/03/2025 09:10

I doubt I would even notice let alone go online and create a post about it

Well precisely, most of us wouldn’t. But I strongly suspect a racist would.

CrimsonStar · 08/03/2025 09:30

I think it’s inappropriate in the workplace where there is clearly a uniform requirement. I would find it unprofessional.

Gingenatalie · 08/03/2025 09:30

MissyB1 · 08/03/2025 09:30

Well precisely, most of us wouldn’t. But I strongly suspect a racist would.

What’s racial about a keffir?

Gingenatalie · 08/03/2025 09:31

Some people on here are so ignorant it’s painful. And sadly they’re always the loudest.

Bestfootforward11 · 08/03/2025 09:34

OP, I think you are just looking for problems here. I’m surprised it’s bothered you so much you had to post.

CoilHell · 08/03/2025 09:35

When worn by white, middle class students with no link to the Middle East the keffiyeh becomes a political symbol designed to signal a specific stance ie. solidarity with the Palestinians. I’m sure we all wish to see an end to the war in Gaza but remember those in Gaza voted for Hamas on the mandate to destroy Israel and the Jews. The war is the sad consequence of that.

As a Jew the keffiyeh makes my feel deeply uncomfortable. I wonder how far the wearer supports the Palestinian cause. Do they also wish to see an end to the state of Israel and the death of all Jews?

You may tell me that the keffiyeh doesn’t mean this at all, but I wonder if there are any other ethnic minorities who you would tell what they should find racist or not.

OKNerd · 08/03/2025 09:35

Coolasfeck · 08/03/2025 06:24

Do you believe Musk and Bannon were doing Nazi salutes or did you downplay it as ‘excitable arm waving’?

I’ve noticed a pattern where someone seen as ‘left’ can be condemned for doing something potentially questionable/insensitive but relatively benign. Whereas someone on the far right can borderline goose step and seig heil and it’s crickets and tumbleweed from the same people fainting because a student shelf stacking on the weekend is wearing a Palestinian scarf.

This is the same as how Trump supports Musk, Proud Boys etc but is threatening American universities who’s students engage in peaceful marches.

I think Musk and Bannon are racist anti Semitic POSs. What on earth made you think otherwise? It doesn’t mean that the left can’t be anti semitic too. Imagine being a Jewish person and both political sides constantly show hate towards you.

The right AND left demonstrably are anti semitic and I’m not saying all pro-Palestinian supporters are anti-Semitic, but many of them are despite what they say and those who aren’t seem to have no issue on the fact they support a cause which deeply historically anti semitic.

I also think people making it a left vs right thing are causing an unecessary distraction. Who cares if you’re on the left or on the right - just stop being racist

A shame my post was deleted. I guess some people don’t like the truth.

lljkk · 08/03/2025 09:36

Does it interfer with customer service? Does it say "Death to all infidels" on it?

Martymcfly24 · 08/03/2025 09:37

Gingenatalie · 08/03/2025 09:31

Some people on here are so ignorant it’s painful. And sadly they’re always the loudest.

I agree. This thread was started in pure bad faith and ignorance. Objecting to what another person wears and stereotyping people based on their support for innocent people being murdered.

We'll start banning books next .

OKNerd · 08/03/2025 09:38

Superfoodie123 · 08/03/2025 08:15

You're so very smart aren't you 😒
Some of us really care and want to show we do, contrary to what the media want people to think

So you wore it because you’re against genocide but wearing it does what exactly? What did it achieve other than showboating your beliefs?

I care deeply, I don’t nee to wear a provocative piece of clothing associated with terrorist support to show I care though