To cut off homophobic friends?

[WitheringHeights8]

I experienced homophobia from a close friend, and I stood up for myself.

She told me she doesn't believe in LGBTQ, and that it shouldn't be taught in schools. She was really aggressive in her opinion, and insinuated that teaching children about diversity in relationships was tantamount to abuse.

I've since blocked her after this, but I miss the friendship. It's been extremely hard as we were close. I almost want to reach out and say, ok, you've attacked my identity, but I still want to keep contact.

I feel harsh, but I can't see how this is compatible with my life.

A belief in biological sex is not transphobic.

Fuck her. Absolutely fuck her and her bigoted views. She doesn’t like gay people
existing, that’s tough titty and you should avoid her.

Of course I've experienced them. As I've already said, I'm a lesbian, and I am truly, deeply, beyond sick of being told by heterosexuals who identfy as "queer" what the LGB should be doing, who we should be validating, who we should be supporting, and who's "rights" and "identities" we should be including as part of the "wider community".

If you'd like to tell me why same sex attracted people need to validate and include those who's "experiences fall outside of societal norms" then do feel free rather than persistently piping that I've been influenced by "far right politics".

LGB is a sexual orientation, not an identity.
We aren't the same, unless you'd care to explain how the needs of lesbian women and heterosexual men who like to dress alternatively intersect, and why lesbians need to unquestioningly support these men?
Or how the needs of gay men and non binary women intersect, if you want to use any variations of the orientation vs identity themes.

Your statement 'transphobia is endemic here' requires evidence rather than an opinion statement.

You seem to think that disagreeing with you is bigotry.

What is your opinion then?

Too many alternatives like what? Adults confuse things for children. We just need to state that boys can have boyfriends, girls can have girlfriends and that’s fine! End of. Then you won’t have generations of children growing up full of self loathing.

The last person who told me to my face that he doesn’t ‘believe’ in gay people was a shit bag at work who was on his 3rd marriage after cheating on the 1st two wives and had multiple children scattered around who he had little to do with. Some people
just need to look in a mirror before passing moral judgement on others.

So your friend is actually GC it seems but you slander her publicly by accusing her of homophobia?

This is very not nice.

‘I think being taught that you can be homosexual is fine ’

oh wow, thanks! We’re so grateful.

My opinion is that people are allowed to have different belief systems in this country and this world.

To allow us to get along we need to tolerate someone's right to disagree with us.

We cannot insist on other people parroting our beliefs or compel their speech or actions.

You have the right to state your beliefs, your friend has the right to disagree with you.

If you are saying that you cannot be friends with anyone who does not think exactly the same as you, then that is your choice.

I have plenty of evidence. Youth posts are enough.

Have you ever studied the rise of Hitler?

Hate the Jews, propaganda, they are the problem. The Jewish problem sounds an awful lot like the transgender problem.

I think you've rather gone off piste.

Can you explain the relevance of your last comments?

You're not very nice

It's a TRA trying to screengrab transphobic posts having started with what was prima facie a valid question. Yawn, seen it before.

They are in general the worst people. Total hypocrites.

I think that conflation of issues is not only extremely inappropriate, it is also incorrect.

I agree with your friend that it shouldn't be taught in school but obviously not for the same reason. Sexual preferences in modern society are (in my opinion) a non-issue in day to day life. By having these "lessons" they are just reinforcing the ideas that being attracted to the same sex is not "normal".

It really is a waste of resources and teaching time when research indicates that a quarter (25%) of 15-year-olds have a reading age of 12 or below, with 20% having a reading age of 11 or below, and 10% having a reading age of 9 or below.

However I am not against incorporating it into the curriculum in a more educational way such as the study of LGB authors in English Literature or the Progression of LGB Rights in Modern History.

I couldn’t be friends with a bigot.

I am nothing like that. And had no agenda.

Why?

I agree, I find this approach far more healthier.

I agree.

This and same. The erasure of lesbianism is a crime imho

Whilst I don’t dispute trans people’s right to exist in peace in the slightest, there are undeniable issues with giving puberty blockers to children, with changing the meaning of words rather than creating real space for trans people. With the fact that it is not acknowledged enough that there is a link between ND people identifying as trans without enough support in the ND space as to why.

Jewish people have been historically subjected to oppression and multiple genocides. It is not the same issue at all.

Both should be discussed, without being conflated.

"I don't believe in" does make the friend homophobic.