California not Sussex

[CaliforniaNotSussex]

I was born and grew up on the Surrey Sussex border. My brother currently lives in Sussex, my mum spent her retirement in Sussex, my grandparents lived in Sussex their whole lives, I had Saturday and holiday jobs in Sussex, my friends at school lived in Sussex.

I do not like or agree with Ms Markle having the 'Duchess of Sussex' title. She has spent all of 6 hours of her entire life here. She doesn't represent or care about me and the rest of the population of Sussex. She doesn't even like the UK. She will probably never set foot in the UK again, she hates our royal family and our country.

I cant really do much about the title being given to her. But now she wants people to refer to her as 'Meghan Sussex' according to her new netflix show.

Why?????

Why Meghan do you want you and your family to have a surname of a place you have barely ever been to, know nothing about, and which is located in a country you dislike and will never return to?

Can't you call yourself Meghan California instead? You can call yourself anything informally, and if you want to change your name formally, there is probably a way that you and Harry and the kids could adopt 'California' as your new surname.

Why oh why take/steal our home county as your new name. I get the 'duchess of Sussex' title is given to you, but you don't need to use it, and you definitely don't need to call yourself 'Meghan Sussex'.

(Some of) The people of Sussex do not want you to have our name

If you want our name then come visit. Spend time here. Visit the locals, buy OUR jam, invest in OUR schools, donate money to local charities, show interest in the place you have adopted as yours. Visit us regularly. Learn about the culture, the people, the place.

AIBU for thinking Meghan should make the effort to get to know Sussex if she now wants to be called 'Meghan Sussex'? If she doesn't want anything to do with us and will never come here again, she shouldn't call herself 'Meghan Sussex'.

I should!

She may have said she was Caucasian because of the racism ( and sexism) within the entertainment industry. Just like people who say ' she is more White than Black because her mother is 1/10th White or whatever completely ignore how many African Americans are part White because of the widespread rape of slaves by slave owners. It's not much of a Gotcha if someone has to pretend to be White to get a job!

Who cares tbh 😂

I don’t think Meghan Sussex is going to stick anyway. She’ll be Meghan Markle forever. It’s just another one of her ‘let’s throw this against the wall and see if it sticks moments’ - it won’t.

Mumsnet is an odd platform where it's still on Meghan Markles side for some reason. The wider world sees through her.
I think most people on Mumsnet (outside of the Royal Family board) don't have that much interest in her, but don't like or understand how people who claim to hate her for reasons we cant really see, comb obsessively through every single article and morsel of information about her and then cry 'why won't she go away?' when they are the reason she won't go away!

She didn't identify as Caucasian though. That's untrue.

www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-caucasian-actress-babe-1767053

I'm not a huge fan but the abuse that woman took from the UK press when she first appeared to be attached to Hazza was utterly disgusting.

We really did not cover ourselves in glory back then. In her shoes I would not be calling myself anything allied to the UK at all after that shit show.

Windsor is a place too. All their names are taken from places that they lay claim to. But it's only a "problem" when Harry does it?

We have Andrew calling himself Duke of Edinburgh, now. He's no real links to Scotland, let alone, Edinburgh, and most Scots object to the monarchy these days. Plus, he's allegedly a predator.

I say this because I object to his title no more or less than William calling himself "Prince of Wales" or the Sussex's doing the same. It's just as baseless.

They don't have traditional last names. They never have because its a second names are relatively new.

I have little to say about their last names. But I do object to "duke of" "princess of" "prince of" etc, especially if they have no real link to the place.

I totally agree. I do not care about her, but I think the haters are crazy.

I’m Sussex born and bred. Could honestly care less if Megan wants to call herself Sussex.

It's hard to take OP seriously when she says that she 'has doubts' that Meghan (or any mixed race or black woman, let alone one in the public eye) has experienced racism...

And ZookeeperSE wins Mumsnet! 😂

Another day, another totally unhinged MN Meghan thread.

I referred to the General Register Office's indexes, not the certificates themselves. The indexes are freely available for anyone to see and you can order birth, marriage and death certificates from there for a fee, I use them constantly for genealogy research.
I daresay( I have no idea)for the royals there's a restriction to prevent any random person ordering a copy though.

Sectarianism

I bet that Somerset Maugham never went to Wooky Hole in his life, the cheeky bugger

@Hortus But Prince Georges birth certificate says something else.

Prince and Princess of Wales live in England. Do you disapprove of them?
No? Thought not.

Totally agree OP but tbh I don’t think many people will refer to her as Meghan Sussex. She will always be Meghan Markle.

Eh?

I never said anything about people's experiences of racism beyond saying that some of what Meghan said about the racism and suicidal ideation she said she experienced, I have doubts about. I didn't say anything about anyone else's experiences of suicidal ideation or racism. That's just untrue.

I am allowed to disbelieve some of what Meghan has said, especially since she is known to play the victim and tell blatant lies.

Of course, any racism she has experienced is wrong and awful. However, I believe at the start most of the country and the royals welcomed her and were pleased for her and harry. Millions tuned on to watch the wedding. They had a lot of aupport. Only when her (and his) behaviour started to turn unpleasant did the public opinion on her change (as also happend in USA).

They have been to Wales for more than 6 hours! They represent the UK where they live, they haven't dissed the country, the royals or the establishment on the world stage. A little different .....

She went her whole life identifying as Caucasian, it was even on her acting resume that she was Caucasian. She only became black when it suited her and fit her race card narrative.

None of this is true, and it’s honestly exhausting how often people repeat such an obvious lie. A little research will show that Meghan has spoken openly about being biracial long before she was in the public eye at this level. The claim that she 'became Black when it suited her' says far more about those making the accusation than about her. And while we’re at it—can we talk about this mythical ‘race card’ that people keep insisting exists? Because if there really were some some sort of first-class ticket - I think we'd all like to know where to pick one up. Funny how the people who bang on about it the most never seem to explain exactly how it works—ho hum.

You believe an institution steeped in ancient history, living surrounded by people exactly like them, who lobbied for exemptions to the Race Relations Act because they didn't want to have to openly advertise for jobs instead of just giving them to other Aristos and is steeped in Empire couldn't possibly be racist? There's a difference between shaking hands with Black people and having one in your family. Something they have never done!