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Or does this sound intentional

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MaybeBaby1313 · 05/03/2025 16:10

I’ve name changed for this and will try to give as much info as I can to get the best responses.
So apologies for the length

I’ve been with my DH for 7 years, married for 4.
Generally things have been good most of the time.

We don’t have DC, which isn’t relevant to my post but is something that people may ask.

However DH has an intellectual disability and is also neurodiverse, but is exceptionally good at masking so I didn’t realise the full extent of his issues until we lived together.

The biggest issue he has is that when he is upset, usually over something minor, to him it’s huge. He feels his life is over if he has a minor setback and tends to lash out verbally and say the most awful things, I’m told he did this to his parents as a child, and it’s something he’s continued in to adulthood but now I get the brunt of it.

He calms down quickly and is always very sorry for the things he’s said, He has never been physically abusive in any way
he runs away (literally) from any kind of conflict or argument and generally seems to struggle with managing his emotions.

BUT

At times when things between us have been absolutely fine, he would hug me and squeeze a little too tight, not every time, just sometimes.

This would leave my breathing restricted for a few seconds so I’d try to speak or poke him etc to get him to let go.

He would apologise:/ say he didn’t mean to hold me that tight and we’d move on.

But, I started to notice it was happening often, and that it was taking him longer to let go when I tried to alert him to being unable to breathe. I started to feel it may be intentional, although couldn’t figure out the point of it.

I bought it up, made sure not to accuse, just said that he was cutting off my air supply sometimes when he hugged me

And it stopped for a long time.

Lately, he’s taken to coming up and hugging me from behind if I am sat at my desk etc, which seems lovely but he is hugging me by putting his arm around my throat.
And squeezing.

Being mindful of before, I didn’t react. Because if it is deliberate then he must be looking for a reaction.

The first time, he let go, as you would after a hug

The next time, he repositioned himself slightly, and then ‘hugged’ again, tighter

I still didn’t react, so he shifted slightly and did it again.

This has now happened multiple times
So I no longer feel it’s unintentionally just being a little heavy handed with the hug

The last time he did it, although I hadn’t reacted he says ‘sorry, couldn’t you breathe’

So it’s clear to me that he does know what he’s doing and that he’s looking for me to react and tell him I can’t breathe, so when I haven’t done that, he’s doing it harder to get the reaction

Now, I want to be clear that I am strong enough to push him off me, I’ve allowed it to happen so I can try and figure out what he’s trying to achieve but I do not feel in any real danger and would not let him do it to a point where it was dangerous.

But, am I over reacting to a too tight hug, or is he trying to restrict my breathing?

And if he is, why?
He doesn’t lash out physically when he’s upset or angry or at times where it would make sense (although it still wouldn’t be acceptable)

So what is the point in cutting off my air supply for a few seconds in a hug, and then letting go? When life is otherwise good

I just don’t get it, which is why I thought it wasn’t intentional but there’s just no way it can be accidental at this point,

incase it’s relevant, he isn’t controlling in any way, in fact I have the most control in our lives, including with finances.

OP posts:
Kindyeah · 05/03/2025 19:58

Why on earth are you still with him? Run. Fast.

BeMellowBrickSquid · 05/03/2025 19:59

SerenaSemolena · 05/03/2025 18:16

Does he have any outlet for his energy, op?
Maybe he should join a weekend football team, or something.

I see you...

Bestfootforward11 · 05/03/2025 20:00

This sounds worrying to me. He is making you physically uncomfortable and you have told him and he seems to be deliberately repeating the actions you told him you didn’t want. The fact you are even thinking about it being deliberate means your instinct is telling you it is. You said he’s not controlling but it sounds to me like he is in some respects. He knows as an adult that he finds managing his emotions difficult for whatever reason but the position seems to be that because he’s been like that since he was young, it’s just the way things are. But that’s not right. He should be taking steps to help him navigate his reactions and not take things out on you. You say he gets disproportionately upset about small things so in a way he is controlling your environment because your experience of a day is significantly dependant on how he has reacted to things and therefore behaved to you. It sounds like he is testing things, how far can he push things. I really do feel quite worried because if he has control of himself why is he doing this and if it’s something he can’t control, that is dangerous full stop. Take care.

supersop60 · 05/03/2025 20:01

Yes, it's intentional.
Get out.
And don't tell him you're going.

scotstars · 05/03/2025 20:05

OP this is terrifying he is escalating his behaviour I wouldn't be interested in sticking around to find out why. Please get yourself to safety I guarantee when he wants to take this a level further again you won't be able to get free and he could very easily kill you.

Hollietree · 05/03/2025 20:05

SerenaSemolena · 05/03/2025 18:16

Does he have any outlet for his energy, op?
Maybe he should join a weekend football team, or something.

Or maybe some Thai massage might help to relax him?

PlanningTowns · 05/03/2025 20:09

I’m very much hoping that four hours after posting your long and considered OP that you are safe and well.

this is a man who masked so successfully that you didn’t know the extent of his issues until later - what when you moved in together?

your post is terrifying and you must remember that not all people are nice and people with the issues you describe can be abusers too. The way he is going about it is very much a worry and suggests it is both intentional and considered.

you need to leave, but if you continue to stay then please tell someone in real life so if the inevitable does happen someone knows this background. I’d also suggest you do t underestimate him and more

Wellwellwellys · 05/03/2025 20:11

This is terrifying. I don’t think I could sleep in the same house as him. He wants to, at the very least scare you, at worst hurt you.

I’d be willing to bet he is watching porn that is fetishising this action too. It’s not worth staying to find out if he’ll try again.

GermanBite · 05/03/2025 20:11

What kind of evidence of intent are you looking for? Being strangled until you pass out? Die?

SnippySnappy · 05/03/2025 20:12

Gently - what else does he need to do to you for you to accept he's abusive? Is the near-asphyxiation not enough?

MatriarchCaz · 05/03/2025 20:12

Hollietree · 05/03/2025 20:05

Or maybe some Thai massage might help to relax him?

Breaks away with the lads would also be good for him?

JLou08 · 05/03/2025 20:15

If possible I do think you are best discussing this in person with someone who knows you both. It does seem very odd that he would do this if there is no reason to it eg no sign that he is physically aggressive, controlling or wants to hurt you. If he had professionals involved you could speak to them too, they may have an idea on what is driving the behaviour and may be able to assess the risks.

WhatamIreading25 · 05/03/2025 20:16

Changed my name to reply - I am an autism specialist. It doesn’t matter whether this is intentional or sensory seeking or dopamine chasing. It’s dangerous and he could easily kill you, by accident or on purpose. You cannot stay in the same house. Sorry.

Dweetfidilove · 05/03/2025 20:18

This is beyond terrifying.
I don't know how you sat there testing how far he'd go without responding.
This is thrilling him and he will kill you.
Crikey 😳.

Horses7 · 05/03/2025 20:19

Yikes 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
I’d be running scared especially as this behaviour is escalating - what’s next??

Toothemoonandback · 05/03/2025 20:24

I’m so sorry this is happening to you. Please don’t underestimate this intentional action. I haven’t read all the replies, so apologies if you have already been signposted to this report:
https://brainkind.org/too-many-to-count/

I just wanted to share that restricting your breathing/cutting off your air supply, can have long lasting effects which you may not immediately recognise.

What he is doing is extremely dangerous. Neurodivergence is not an excuse/rationale for causing repeated harm. As an adult with capacity, once you made him aware that he was hurting you, an empathetic response would be to not want to repeat the act. Maybe even avoiding hugging you, for fear of hurting you accidentally.

His response is to repeat the action, even adjust his positioning for more effect. He is experiencing some sort of pleasure from doing this to you. It is extremely worrying, and highly dangerous. He is lacking in empathy and feeling pleasure at exerting this level of control over your ability to breathe.

Too Many to Count

Too Many to Count is the first study in the United Kingdom to explore the prevalence of brain injury in domestic abuse survivors accessing community-based service

https://brainkind.org/too-many-to-count/

Harriethulas · 05/03/2025 20:25

This is chilling to read and gave me goosebumps. I think there may be a misdiagnosis or an undiagnosed personality disorder alongside his intellectual disability. He sounds like a psychopath. He’s testing the waters.

Mygosh · 05/03/2025 20:27

Why aren't you telling him you don't like it? Not only does he sound dangerous, but you are playing a dangerous game.

Picklelily99 · 05/03/2025 20:51

YABU to think you can control this/him! I do NOT want to read of your grisly demise in the newspapers! Get help NOW - for him, for you. Notify any 'bodies' you can; doctors, police etc.

Lavender14 · 05/03/2025 20:52

I think op that the fact he is ND is a bit of a red herring here - you've got so caught up in trying to understand how his mind works and the reasons behind things so you can navigate your relationship that you've missed the key point that, regardless of the 'why' the behaviour is still the behaviour. You've told him clearly that you don't like what he's doing and he's in control of it enough to have been able to stop it for what you describe as a long time. So this isn't something he's doing because he absolutely must/ isn't aware/ doesn't understand the boundary you've put in place - he's doing it because he wants to and that want (irregardless of why he wants to) is more important to him than the fact you've told him you don't like it and why. He values himself over your safety and comfort and feelings. That's not sustainable in any relationship. Many ND people take boundaries very seriously because clear boundaries help them understand other people better. So that in itself really isn't relevant.

You said you could have stopped it if you'd chosen to and you didn't because you wanted to see what would happen. The thing is op - that is entirely, entirely based on him letting go as soon as you need him to. If he decided to hold on for longer or not let go then actually you couldn't stop him and he could kill you or render you unconscious. You're in a much more vulnerable position here than you seem to realise.

I think you've been in this with him and trying to understand him for so long that you've kind of lost the urgency in this. He's not a puzzle for you to figure out - either you like how he treats you or you don't. ND or not it is still his responsibility to do what he needs to in order to navigate his relationships in a healthy and safe way - as a partner it is not your job to do this for him and it sounds like that's the role you've been filling. It also sounds like there's been an escalation of his behaviour since you moved in together and have become more dependent on him in that living together means your home is now with him. That tracks with quite controlling behaviour. I think you need to leave op, urgently and without giving him warning. This behaviour won't stop it will only get worse.

Does he have a specific diagnosis and does he receive support from a specialist? I honestly think if you track back through your relationship you'll find other controlling behaviours you've maybe put down to him being ND and dismissed without realising.

Lavender14 · 05/03/2025 20:55

Also op, I hate to say it but if this is a need he has that is not being met - because its completely unsafe- someone needs to be aware of this incase that comes out in other areas of his life with other people. If it were me I'd be logging it with any specialists he's working with and the police. Strangulation is one of the major risk factors that preceed homicide and op, it often looks exactly like what you're describing.

Iizzyb · 05/03/2025 21:07

This is no way to live OP. You need to get out of the marriage. I'm so sorry x

Isthiswhatmenthink · 05/03/2025 21:14

This is a very dangerous and escalating situation. He’s looking for something by doing this to you. He’s not getting it. He’s escalating. This is going to go only one way.

RealEagle · 05/03/2025 22:11

This man sounds familiar.Has he been to Blackpool?

TheMorels · 05/03/2025 22:14

SerenaSemolena · 05/03/2025 18:16

Does he have any outlet for his energy, op?
Maybe he should join a weekend football team, or something.

I agree. It could be a good outlet. 😉

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