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Or does this sound intentional

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MaybeBaby1313 · 05/03/2025 16:10

I’ve name changed for this and will try to give as much info as I can to get the best responses.
So apologies for the length

I’ve been with my DH for 7 years, married for 4.
Generally things have been good most of the time.

We don’t have DC, which isn’t relevant to my post but is something that people may ask.

However DH has an intellectual disability and is also neurodiverse, but is exceptionally good at masking so I didn’t realise the full extent of his issues until we lived together.

The biggest issue he has is that when he is upset, usually over something minor, to him it’s huge. He feels his life is over if he has a minor setback and tends to lash out verbally and say the most awful things, I’m told he did this to his parents as a child, and it’s something he’s continued in to adulthood but now I get the brunt of it.

He calms down quickly and is always very sorry for the things he’s said, He has never been physically abusive in any way
he runs away (literally) from any kind of conflict or argument and generally seems to struggle with managing his emotions.

BUT

At times when things between us have been absolutely fine, he would hug me and squeeze a little too tight, not every time, just sometimes.

This would leave my breathing restricted for a few seconds so I’d try to speak or poke him etc to get him to let go.

He would apologise:/ say he didn’t mean to hold me that tight and we’d move on.

But, I started to notice it was happening often, and that it was taking him longer to let go when I tried to alert him to being unable to breathe. I started to feel it may be intentional, although couldn’t figure out the point of it.

I bought it up, made sure not to accuse, just said that he was cutting off my air supply sometimes when he hugged me

And it stopped for a long time.

Lately, he’s taken to coming up and hugging me from behind if I am sat at my desk etc, which seems lovely but he is hugging me by putting his arm around my throat.
And squeezing.

Being mindful of before, I didn’t react. Because if it is deliberate then he must be looking for a reaction.

The first time, he let go, as you would after a hug

The next time, he repositioned himself slightly, and then ‘hugged’ again, tighter

I still didn’t react, so he shifted slightly and did it again.

This has now happened multiple times
So I no longer feel it’s unintentionally just being a little heavy handed with the hug

The last time he did it, although I hadn’t reacted he says ‘sorry, couldn’t you breathe’

So it’s clear to me that he does know what he’s doing and that he’s looking for me to react and tell him I can’t breathe, so when I haven’t done that, he’s doing it harder to get the reaction

Now, I want to be clear that I am strong enough to push him off me, I’ve allowed it to happen so I can try and figure out what he’s trying to achieve but I do not feel in any real danger and would not let him do it to a point where it was dangerous.

But, am I over reacting to a too tight hug, or is he trying to restrict my breathing?

And if he is, why?
He doesn’t lash out physically when he’s upset or angry or at times where it would make sense (although it still wouldn’t be acceptable)

So what is the point in cutting off my air supply for a few seconds in a hug, and then letting go? When life is otherwise good

I just don’t get it, which is why I thought it wasn’t intentional but there’s just no way it can be accidental at this point,

incase it’s relevant, he isn’t controlling in any way, in fact I have the most control in our lives, including with finances.

OP posts:
Ellie1015 · 05/03/2025 18:54

If it is intentional it is unsafe. If it is not intentional it is unsafe. So either way it doesnt matter he has to stop.

The fact you are wary of bringing this up suggests you are nervous/controlled by thought of him losing control.

LBFseBrom · 05/03/2025 18:56

This is absolutely terrifying, op. I do not understand why you are with this man.

Please don't stay.

LordBummenbachsMagnificentBalls · 05/03/2025 18:57

Op, your partner is intentionally strangling you for your own enjoyment. Their neurodiversity is irrelevant, you are unsafe in this relationship. Please leave as soon as possible

Notsuchafattynow · 05/03/2025 18:59

Finmory · 05/03/2025 16:49

Being strangled by a partner makes you 600% more likely to be murdered by that person. This may not be strangulation but the intent to cut off your air is the same.

It's also clear from the fact he was repositioning his hold that he was absolutely trying to stop you from breathing.

I would treat this behaviour extremely seriously, report to the police, and leave the abusive POS.

Exactly.

He's step by step, leading up to it.

It's terrifying. Please leave imeadatly.

Devonshiregal · 05/03/2025 19:02

Firefly100 · 05/03/2025 17:07

Hi OP, does your husband work? If so what happens at work when
“when he is upset, usually over something minor, to him it’s huge. He feels his life is over if he has a minor setback and tends to lash out verbally and say the most awful things”

How about with his friends?

or does he miraculously manage to hold it in then after all and reserve that behaviour just for you? I agree with previous posters you are under reacting and he sounds dangerous.

This is actually a bit of a difficult comparison as we all have bigger arguments/show our emotions more with our close ones than colleagues.

It would help too if she said what intellectual disability he has and what neurodivergence. They’re not one size fits all.

But yeah the guy is clearly fucked up and probably getting some sexual kick out of this-he probably too scared to ask her if she wants to do the whole strangle thing (or has in the past but she said no) and is just getting his thrills where he can. Im guessing op is thinking well he’s big on the bad mood side so maybe he’s big on the happy mood side and that’s why he’s squeezing too hard.

He’s either Lenny from of mice and men (dangerous but innocent) or he’s a fucked up weirdo (dangerous and intentional). Either way op ends up seriously hurt or dead.

edited to add that the op is really confusing with this post - she sounds genuinely not that worried that this guy is restricting her breathing and very confident about her ability to fight him off (even though she said she had to pinch him because she couldn’t breathe…) so weird. And really, anyone who suspects their husband maybe be secretly evil should leave rather than sticking around to find out - hasn’t anyone watched What Lies Beneath?

GreyAreas · 05/03/2025 19:03

You say he has never been physically abusive, but he is being physically abusive. Sounds like a dominance move. Abuse moves often are instinctual and not conscious. He may have revenge fantasies because of how strongly he feels his feelings. Would he be able to intellectually understand that it is experienced by you as abusive and that it needs to stop? You've tried not reacting. Now you need to - safely - do something different.

Efrogwraig · 05/03/2025 19:04

Leave. Leave now.

randomrandomium · 05/03/2025 19:06

Please leave

mcmooberry · 05/03/2025 19:07

Yes it sounds intentional and yes it sounds dangerous. Going to add my voice to those advising to leave, it honestly feels like it could escalate. He has masked this dangerous side too, please make plans to separate and soon.

andyouwillknowusbythetrailofdead · 05/03/2025 19:08

It's intentional. He's seeing how far he can push you.

IDoWhateverItTakes · 05/03/2025 19:10

He's getting off on hurting you and ramping it up again.

He sounds dangerous to me.

EdithStourton · 05/03/2025 19:11

You OP gave me the chills.
I think you should leave. I would not rehanging around to find out how far he would take this behaviour.

wizzywig · 05/03/2025 19:12

Could be sensory seeking behaviour. Could be something sinister

NebulousDogBollocking · 05/03/2025 19:15

@MaybeBaby1313 are you not reacting so he can't blame you for reacting? You know how they can set you up to react so you'll look like the crazy one? Is that what you're thinking with that? A kind of grey rock thing?

If you didn't know before (I suspect your instincts were telling you or you wouldn't have posted), you'll see from all of our reactions that your situation is way beyond that. Please do whatever you can to get yourself away from him safely as soon as you can Flowers

Theseventhmagpie · 05/03/2025 19:16

Leave. You are in danger.

BitOutOfPractice · 05/03/2025 19:17

The strangling thing sounds so so scary.

And can I also add that always being sorry afterwards, having always done it, are no excuse at all for verbal abuse. Ever.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 05/03/2025 19:21

@MaybeBaby1313 I'm hoping you're too busy to answer because you've got away.
But when you can please let us know you are safe.

IntoTheVoid68 · 05/03/2025 19:22

He is a fucking psychopath! Leave, before he kills you!

FlippyKiYayFlippyFlipper · 05/03/2025 19:23

Theseventhmagpie · 05/03/2025 19:16

Leave. You are in danger.

This. Get out right now and confide in someone you trust.

AthWat · 05/03/2025 19:23

5128gap · 05/03/2025 18:42

Unless he is disabled, elderly or otherwise frail or you are an athlete, you should absolutely NOT assume you are strong enough to prevent him harming you. An average adult man is almost always capable of overpowering an average woman even where weight and size are similar. Plus, if he is approaching you from behind he has the advantage of positioning, especially if you are seated. You are taking a significant risk in staying with him. It's obviously intentional and he sounds unwell and escalating.

Plus, even if she were strong enough to stop him doing what he is doing at the moment, nobody is strong enough to stop anyone they live with from harming them unless they never sleep.

Ilikeadrink14 · 05/03/2025 19:24

SerenaSemolena · 05/03/2025 18:16

Does he have any outlet for his energy, op?
Maybe he should join a weekend football team, or something.

He’s practically strangling his wife, and is most likely gearing up for much worse and you suggest joining a FOOTBALL TEAM??

MadameBethune · 05/03/2025 19:25

You must leave.

Physical damage from choking/strangulation happens incredibly quickly, much sooner than most people believe, and at much less pressure than people think.

Compressing your neck can give you a stroke within seconds. The average time to lose consciousness is 6 seconds, and it takes a fraction of the strength of an average handshake.

Have a look at this video from the Institute for Addressing Strangulation;

Biscuitsnotcookies · 05/03/2025 19:25

I have never said this to anyone on here or in real life, I have never shivered and felt so much fear reading your post.

Please pack a bag and leave tonight.

You are in so much danger.

Most people would have left the first time he restricted your breathing, you are really severely under reacting.

You can not be on your own with this man ever again. I would contact the police for support and guidance,

You have described a psychopath and it’s a blessing you do not have children. Please leave immediately.

CrickityCrickets · 05/03/2025 19:27

Helpmetogetoverthis · 05/03/2025 16:55

Unless you are massive and he is very small you almost certainly are not strong enough to push a man who is strangling you off, especially from behind.

I came on here to second this. Men are very strong when they want to be. Be careful.

mumuseli · 05/03/2025 19:28

Don’t waste precious time trying to work him out, OP. Just get yourself safe. I agree with what others said that it could be dangerous to warn him you are leaving. Good luck. I know leaving a marriage can be really overwhelming, but remember you can seek further support for that on here. xx