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Or does this sound intentional

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MaybeBaby1313 · 05/03/2025 16:10

I’ve name changed for this and will try to give as much info as I can to get the best responses.
So apologies for the length

I’ve been with my DH for 7 years, married for 4.
Generally things have been good most of the time.

We don’t have DC, which isn’t relevant to my post but is something that people may ask.

However DH has an intellectual disability and is also neurodiverse, but is exceptionally good at masking so I didn’t realise the full extent of his issues until we lived together.

The biggest issue he has is that when he is upset, usually over something minor, to him it’s huge. He feels his life is over if he has a minor setback and tends to lash out verbally and say the most awful things, I’m told he did this to his parents as a child, and it’s something he’s continued in to adulthood but now I get the brunt of it.

He calms down quickly and is always very sorry for the things he’s said, He has never been physically abusive in any way
he runs away (literally) from any kind of conflict or argument and generally seems to struggle with managing his emotions.

BUT

At times when things between us have been absolutely fine, he would hug me and squeeze a little too tight, not every time, just sometimes.

This would leave my breathing restricted for a few seconds so I’d try to speak or poke him etc to get him to let go.

He would apologise:/ say he didn’t mean to hold me that tight and we’d move on.

But, I started to notice it was happening often, and that it was taking him longer to let go when I tried to alert him to being unable to breathe. I started to feel it may be intentional, although couldn’t figure out the point of it.

I bought it up, made sure not to accuse, just said that he was cutting off my air supply sometimes when he hugged me

And it stopped for a long time.

Lately, he’s taken to coming up and hugging me from behind if I am sat at my desk etc, which seems lovely but he is hugging me by putting his arm around my throat.
And squeezing.

Being mindful of before, I didn’t react. Because if it is deliberate then he must be looking for a reaction.

The first time, he let go, as you would after a hug

The next time, he repositioned himself slightly, and then ‘hugged’ again, tighter

I still didn’t react, so he shifted slightly and did it again.

This has now happened multiple times
So I no longer feel it’s unintentionally just being a little heavy handed with the hug

The last time he did it, although I hadn’t reacted he says ‘sorry, couldn’t you breathe’

So it’s clear to me that he does know what he’s doing and that he’s looking for me to react and tell him I can’t breathe, so when I haven’t done that, he’s doing it harder to get the reaction

Now, I want to be clear that I am strong enough to push him off me, I’ve allowed it to happen so I can try and figure out what he’s trying to achieve but I do not feel in any real danger and would not let him do it to a point where it was dangerous.

But, am I over reacting to a too tight hug, or is he trying to restrict my breathing?

And if he is, why?
He doesn’t lash out physically when he’s upset or angry or at times where it would make sense (although it still wouldn’t be acceptable)

So what is the point in cutting off my air supply for a few seconds in a hug, and then letting go? When life is otherwise good

I just don’t get it, which is why I thought it wasn’t intentional but there’s just no way it can be accidental at this point,

incase it’s relevant, he isn’t controlling in any way, in fact I have the most control in our lives, including with finances.

OP posts:
PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 05/03/2025 17:09

I felt so uncomfortable reading that. The thought of someone trying to stop me breathing randomly throughout the day is terrifying, I don't know how you've managed to stop yourself from lashing out at him with whatever you have to hand.

It's genuinely chilling behaviour. You don't need to work out why he's doing it, you need to make sure he can never do that to you again.

Jade520 · 05/03/2025 17:09

It seems like you have never got angry about this, been clear you hate it and never want it to happen again? You might well find with that reaction that he's mortified and had no idea that you felt like that because his ASD and learning difficulty interpreted your calm reaction as you didn't mind or that you quite liked it. He may see it misguidedly as some sort of special connection between you.

You need to be careful though OP because this is dangerous behaviour and is not ok.

Dolambslikemintsauce · 05/03/2025 17:09

Any police officer will confirm a man who lays his hands on your throat/neck is very dangerous... You need to end the relationship today.. And be very very glad you don't have any dc together.. Absolutely no need to ever come into contact with him again.

BeachRide · 05/03/2025 17:10

Not 'maybe', no baby OP. My blood ran cold reading that. Please do some therapy to understand why you're tolerating this abuse (because it is). And take steps to leave. Quick ones.

Alalalala · 05/03/2025 17:11

OP this is terrifying. You need to leave him. There’s nothing more to say

Trickedbyadoughnut · 05/03/2025 17:15

This is terrifying. As someone has said upthread, strangulation is an extremely high indicator for murdering a female partner (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2573025/).

Do not talk to him about it, whatever you do. You will be placing yourself in danger. Make plans to leave and do it without telling him.

Do not believe that you can push him off - there are huge disparities in grip strengthen between men and women and if he gets a hold of you round your neck there is very little chance you will be able to break his grip (https://briefedbydata.substack.com/p/female-vs-male-grip-strength).

Female vs Male Grip Strength

A proxy for overall strength

https://briefedbydata.substack.com/p/female-vs-male-grip-strength

MissyB1 · 05/03/2025 17:15

He’s very bloody dangerous, don’t assume you will be able to push him off or break free. Stop tolerating this shit.

Mymanyellow · 05/03/2025 17:17

Why would just sit there and let him strangle you?
Tell him to get the fuck off your neck. He knows what he is doing, he’s experimenting how far he can go.

WitcheryDivine · 05/03/2025 17:18

BeachRide · 05/03/2025 17:10

Not 'maybe', no baby OP. My blood ran cold reading that. Please do some therapy to understand why you're tolerating this abuse (because it is). And take steps to leave. Quick ones.

I agree OP I think somehow you think he’s not a threat because of his disability but here we are - you’re living with a man who occasionally strangles you for fun. He is a threat, a big one. It’s terrifying.

but also - you're accepting it. Did you grow up in a scary situation? You sound extremely blasé about it.

Either way you need to leave and never return.

Dollydaydream100 · 05/03/2025 17:18

Wow. Wow wow wow.

Get away from him.

CanOfMangoTango · 05/03/2025 17:18

He's pushing your boundaries and is waiting for you to react. Terrifying.

Nanny0gg · 05/03/2025 17:19

You can't push him off when he's behind you.

There is something very wrong (undiagnosed?) here.

Get out while you can.

Frostynoman · 05/03/2025 17:20

Leave.

I was going to say that I’d be willing to wager an mis or missed diagnosis but the stake could well be your life. So I won’t.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886908002006

Aknifewith16blades · 05/03/2025 17:23

I'm wondering about possible personality disorder, rather (or as well as) ND.

Even if it's innocent, you can't stay. Too dangerous.

Talk to Woman's Aid and get some help to leave, soon.

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/03/2025 17:23

GlacialLook · 05/03/2025 16:31

This. I mean, this guy is getting off on restricting your airway without even the 'Oh, women in porn love it' excuse. He's dangerous. I would not want to spend a half-hour, far less seven years, with a man with an intellectual disability who can't self-regulate and who deliberately restricted my breathing.

This. Why on earth would you want to waste your one and only life here on Planet Earth with someone this unhinged?

Rizzla · 05/03/2025 17:28

Why are you minimising this? It’s so disturbing just to read this. He’s dangerous. Please seek help

EwwSprouts · 05/03/2025 17:28

He is hugging you from behind so you can't get away and it can be claimed to be a 'hug' because it's not hands around your throat. Yes it is intentional. You really need to leave and not look back.

RobinEllacotStrike · 05/03/2025 17:31

"in fact I have the most control in our lives, including with finances."

this could be why he is showing you, repeatedly, that he can really harm you, even kill you if he wanted.

OP I don't have any experience with a man like this. But I would not be able to live with someone who did this to me.

I think his behaviour is very concerning. He is threatening you/

How much porn is he watching?

TakeMeDancing · 05/03/2025 17:31

myplace · 05/03/2025 16:15

He is a dangerous man driven by impulses to get reactions and drama, perhaps to feel needed/important.

Like a toddler pinching your face because you are looking at someone else.

The underlying reasons are neither here nor there. He is so self centred that he will abuse you to get the sensory feedback he needs.

He could get therapy to help with sensory seeking behaviour and to understand his own impulses better BUT… not while in a relationship with you. Or anyone. He has to do that alone in order to be fit for a relationship.

He’s a dangerous man as he will escalate- your responses aren’t going to be enough. He’ll always need more.

Someone with a toddler’s impulses in a man’s body (with the strength this entails) can be very dangerous.

saveforthat · 05/03/2025 17:33

I would tell him to stop hugging me, scream at the top of my voice if he came anywhere near me and get out as soon as you can

RobinEllacotStrike · 05/03/2025 17:35

"And if he is, why?"

according to Lundy Bancroft the answer is simply and shockingly "because he can". There is no great complicated mysterious back story explanation with abusive men - it is just because he can.

BunnyLake · 05/03/2025 17:35

Unless you’re a man yourself I doubt you would be strong enough to push him away. Sounds potentially dangerous to me.

ElsieMc · 05/03/2025 17:36

It sounds like you were still hoping it is all innocent and due to his intellectual issues. You now know for sure he enjoys strangling you/restricting your breathing. It is ramping up and you are in real danger.

My dds former partner abused her terribly - terrifying car journeys, taking her bank card, smashing her possessions, her laptop kicking her car doors, smashing her head against walls. But the day he tried to strangle her, the police told her to leave now or she would die.

Have you anywhere to go whilst he is at work? Please leave.

Wolfhat · 05/03/2025 17:36

Yes, picking up on PP, my first thought was is this a porn thing? Testing limits etc.

It would raise huge red flags for me and I would be very clear it cannot and will not happen again. If he can't accept or respect that I think it would be a deal breaker for me.

Ghostofallnightmares · 05/03/2025 17:36

Jesus wept. Read your posts back please
He is not ok.
This is NOT ok at all. He sounds bloody dangerous. Get out . I cannot think of one instance this has happened in 27 years with my partner. He is not stopping is he? So when will he do you think?

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