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Or does this sound intentional

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MaybeBaby1313 · 05/03/2025 16:10

I’ve name changed for this and will try to give as much info as I can to get the best responses.
So apologies for the length

I’ve been with my DH for 7 years, married for 4.
Generally things have been good most of the time.

We don’t have DC, which isn’t relevant to my post but is something that people may ask.

However DH has an intellectual disability and is also neurodiverse, but is exceptionally good at masking so I didn’t realise the full extent of his issues until we lived together.

The biggest issue he has is that when he is upset, usually over something minor, to him it’s huge. He feels his life is over if he has a minor setback and tends to lash out verbally and say the most awful things, I’m told he did this to his parents as a child, and it’s something he’s continued in to adulthood but now I get the brunt of it.

He calms down quickly and is always very sorry for the things he’s said, He has never been physically abusive in any way
he runs away (literally) from any kind of conflict or argument and generally seems to struggle with managing his emotions.

BUT

At times when things between us have been absolutely fine, he would hug me and squeeze a little too tight, not every time, just sometimes.

This would leave my breathing restricted for a few seconds so I’d try to speak or poke him etc to get him to let go.

He would apologise:/ say he didn’t mean to hold me that tight and we’d move on.

But, I started to notice it was happening often, and that it was taking him longer to let go when I tried to alert him to being unable to breathe. I started to feel it may be intentional, although couldn’t figure out the point of it.

I bought it up, made sure not to accuse, just said that he was cutting off my air supply sometimes when he hugged me

And it stopped for a long time.

Lately, he’s taken to coming up and hugging me from behind if I am sat at my desk etc, which seems lovely but he is hugging me by putting his arm around my throat.
And squeezing.

Being mindful of before, I didn’t react. Because if it is deliberate then he must be looking for a reaction.

The first time, he let go, as you would after a hug

The next time, he repositioned himself slightly, and then ‘hugged’ again, tighter

I still didn’t react, so he shifted slightly and did it again.

This has now happened multiple times
So I no longer feel it’s unintentionally just being a little heavy handed with the hug

The last time he did it, although I hadn’t reacted he says ‘sorry, couldn’t you breathe’

So it’s clear to me that he does know what he’s doing and that he’s looking for me to react and tell him I can’t breathe, so when I haven’t done that, he’s doing it harder to get the reaction

Now, I want to be clear that I am strong enough to push him off me, I’ve allowed it to happen so I can try and figure out what he’s trying to achieve but I do not feel in any real danger and would not let him do it to a point where it was dangerous.

But, am I over reacting to a too tight hug, or is he trying to restrict my breathing?

And if he is, why?
He doesn’t lash out physically when he’s upset or angry or at times where it would make sense (although it still wouldn’t be acceptable)

So what is the point in cutting off my air supply for a few seconds in a hug, and then letting go? When life is otherwise good

I just don’t get it, which is why I thought it wasn’t intentional but there’s just no way it can be accidental at this point,

incase it’s relevant, he isn’t controlling in any way, in fact I have the most control in our lives, including with finances.

OP posts:
MadameBethune · 05/03/2025 19:28

I am posting the link to the video again. This is so important. You are in so much danger.

AgnesX · 05/03/2025 19:29

You need to tell him that he's not to do it again. That is, put his arms around ANY part of you and squeeze. Any kind of squeeze. Explain that it's because it hurts and scares you. You don't have to say why. Make it crystal clear that there's no negotiation.

There have been enough previous posters who have explained why. You need to take on board the risk and plan your life strategy with that in mind.

MadameBethune · 05/03/2025 19:30

It won't post.

Please google Dr Cath White, Institute for Addressing Strangulation.

It is a video that everyone should watch, to be aware of the reality of strangulation and choking. There is no such thing as safe choking.

GermanBite · 05/03/2025 19:31

What kind of intellectual disability does he have?

chocmalt · 05/03/2025 19:32

That's chilling. Your post reads like something out of a horror novel. I think I'd have gone nuts at him the first time he did this, and if he'd done it again, I'd be too scared to stay with him.

Yes, it's intentional, and no, it's not normal to intentionally restrict someone's ability to breathe, especially without at least asking for their consent. Personally, I don't think it's okay even then. Just not a normal thing to want to do to another person.

PrincessofWells · 05/03/2025 19:32

I can't believe this is a genuine thread. Surely no-one would allow their partner to do this?

49andcrackingup · 05/03/2025 19:32

@MaybeBaby1313
Is this intentional?
It seems you have answered your own question and know that it most certainly is. Reading your post Op was uncomfortable 😳 scary, wth, to just assume you have the strength to shrug off a 'pre-meditated arm around your neck (restricting your breathing.)
Worried for you @MaybeBaby1313 Please look after yourself. So relieved no children around. Be Safe.

Excuse grammar.

Cucy · 05/03/2025 19:33

You’re talking about him like he’s a different species!

Why are you testing him and seeing how he reacts.
Why are you weighing up whether you can let it happen or tell him to stop.
Why are you even thinking about whether you are strong enough to push him off you.

He’s not an unpredictable dog or wild animal that you’ve just let into your home.

He’s a grown adult, capable of everything all other grown adults are and the ND is absolutely no excuse.

Being ND doesn’t mean you are unaware of peoples feelings, especially after you’ve explicitly told him and that it’s ok to hurt people or scare them.

This is your partner.
The person you are meant to love, trust and feel completely safe around.

I work in multiple prisons.
The weighing up and questioning things that you are doing, is what I do in these jobs because I always need to be on high alert to keep myself safe.

I never need to do this when I get home because I feel 100% safe around the people I live with.
If I didn’t I wouldn’t live with them.

HonoraBridge · 05/03/2025 19:34

There is something deeply and dangerously wrong here. His last comment about being sorry you couldn’t breathe is horrifying. I agree with whoever said that he is testing you. I am very worried about where this is going. You need to talk to a psychiatrist about you husband and / or plan escape options.

Bepo77 · 05/03/2025 19:39

What the heck have I just read. Ew. Run OP!

Even if my husband was somehow doing it innocently/subconsciously it would give me the ick anyway.

valder · 05/03/2025 19:40

Just one sharp snap backwards and you're dead.

NiftyKoala · 05/03/2025 19:40

I don't care if he's sensory seeking. You are not his stress relief squeeze toy.

Bubbletrain · 05/03/2025 19:40

You can get free, until your sleeping and he strangles you. This is demented.

Ebonyivory · 05/03/2025 19:41

Voted YABU because you are talking like this is totally normal behaviour.

He’s testing you to see how far he can go. It will escalate. Leave. Now.

chocmalt · 05/03/2025 19:43

Whether or not he has any intellectual disabilities or is ND, this is unacceptable. I'd wonder if he's using that as an excuse to get away with things, but even if not, who cares?! The results are the same, if he ends up killing or seriously hurting you.

He's playing a dangerous game, and you are, too, by allowing this to continue. Either he stops completely or I'd divorce him ASAP.

JG4 · 05/03/2025 19:44

MaybeBaby1313 · 05/03/2025 16:10

I’ve name changed for this and will try to give as much info as I can to get the best responses.
So apologies for the length

I’ve been with my DH for 7 years, married for 4.
Generally things have been good most of the time.

We don’t have DC, which isn’t relevant to my post but is something that people may ask.

However DH has an intellectual disability and is also neurodiverse, but is exceptionally good at masking so I didn’t realise the full extent of his issues until we lived together.

The biggest issue he has is that when he is upset, usually over something minor, to him it’s huge. He feels his life is over if he has a minor setback and tends to lash out verbally and say the most awful things, I’m told he did this to his parents as a child, and it’s something he’s continued in to adulthood but now I get the brunt of it.

He calms down quickly and is always very sorry for the things he’s said, He has never been physically abusive in any way
he runs away (literally) from any kind of conflict or argument and generally seems to struggle with managing his emotions.

BUT

At times when things between us have been absolutely fine, he would hug me and squeeze a little too tight, not every time, just sometimes.

This would leave my breathing restricted for a few seconds so I’d try to speak or poke him etc to get him to let go.

He would apologise:/ say he didn’t mean to hold me that tight and we’d move on.

But, I started to notice it was happening often, and that it was taking him longer to let go when I tried to alert him to being unable to breathe. I started to feel it may be intentional, although couldn’t figure out the point of it.

I bought it up, made sure not to accuse, just said that he was cutting off my air supply sometimes when he hugged me

And it stopped for a long time.

Lately, he’s taken to coming up and hugging me from behind if I am sat at my desk etc, which seems lovely but he is hugging me by putting his arm around my throat.
And squeezing.

Being mindful of before, I didn’t react. Because if it is deliberate then he must be looking for a reaction.

The first time, he let go, as you would after a hug

The next time, he repositioned himself slightly, and then ‘hugged’ again, tighter

I still didn’t react, so he shifted slightly and did it again.

This has now happened multiple times
So I no longer feel it’s unintentionally just being a little heavy handed with the hug

The last time he did it, although I hadn’t reacted he says ‘sorry, couldn’t you breathe’

So it’s clear to me that he does know what he’s doing and that he’s looking for me to react and tell him I can’t breathe, so when I haven’t done that, he’s doing it harder to get the reaction

Now, I want to be clear that I am strong enough to push him off me, I’ve allowed it to happen so I can try and figure out what he’s trying to achieve but I do not feel in any real danger and would not let him do it to a point where it was dangerous.

But, am I over reacting to a too tight hug, or is he trying to restrict my breathing?

And if he is, why?
He doesn’t lash out physically when he’s upset or angry or at times where it would make sense (although it still wouldn’t be acceptable)

So what is the point in cutting off my air supply for a few seconds in a hug, and then letting go? When life is otherwise good

I just don’t get it, which is why I thought it wasn’t intentional but there’s just no way it can be accidental at this point,

incase it’s relevant, he isn’t controlling in any way, in fact I have the most control in our lives, including with finances.

Op , PLEASE are read what you wrote as if your best friend or your sister had written it . I literally felt a chill whist reading it . His behaviour is far from normal , he is clearly aware of what he is doing and you are in danger .there is absolutely no excuse for someone to cup off your air supply , EVER . Please get out of this situation

Pigsears · 05/03/2025 19:47

'he isn't controlling in any way'

I'd say controlling airflow and ability to breathe is a fairly major thing.

MidnightMusing5 · 05/03/2025 19:48

I was scared for you reading this. 🚩 🏃‍♀️

Maurepas · 05/03/2025 19:49

He is crazy.
He is very dangerous.
One day he may/will go to far.
Get Out.

ChocAuVin · 05/03/2025 19:49

My abusive exH once said, calmly, “I want to put my hands around your neck and squeeze until you stop breathing.”

at the time, although it was chilling, I was so gaslit and so many dreadful things were said so often, I didn’t run from the house.

He was dangerous and it was entirely normalised.

In hindsight I want to slap myself and just go. I get the same feeling reading your post. It’s not normal. Leave.

AnxiouslyAwaitingSpring · 05/03/2025 19:52

This is how Gabby Petito was killed 😐

DPotter · 05/03/2025 19:53

Unless he is under 5 ft and you are 6ft 4 with plenty of upper body strength you will not be able to get out of a headlock.

This man is so dangerous and I sincerely hope that after reading 6 of the responses, you have packed a bag and got the hell out of there, and that's why you haven't returned to the thread. If you're reeling from the shock of all the posts - get your handbag and car keys and get the hell out of there now.

7 seconds that's all it would take.
7 seconds

Mellap · 05/03/2025 19:53

The question isn't why does he do that. The question is why are you accepting this frightening person in your life and how can you find a way to respond appropriately to your situation. Your under-reaction is so so concerning. It really sounds like you need to get to safety as soon as possible. Get away from this dangerous man who is showing you he wants to hurt you. Once you are safe, seek therapy to explore this but first, please, first, get away.

It will be so hard for you to hear this right now as you have come here looking for help rationalising your situation so you can keep it going. But it is irrational. You are not safe. Please wake up and run away before it's too late.

Barney16 · 05/03/2025 19:56

This is very scary. Honestly I would be so frightened I would leave. I couldn't be in the house with him. What could happen when you are asleep?

Bababear987 · 05/03/2025 19:57

Totototo · 05/03/2025 16:22

You sound deranged. He sounds dangerous. Leave. Get therapy.

This!!

Omg OP how can you be playing along with this? He sounds dangerous and is obvs trying to test you. Life is too short for people like this. You will lead a great life without a man that likes to strangle you for kicks