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Friends not sponsoring dh

738 replies

Primmyhill · 02/03/2025 20:27

Ok, I know times are hard and there are loads of people asking for sponsorship etc but I’m just a bit hacked off. In the past I’ve sponsored friends kids for things like walking around the playground at lunch time, sponsored silence etc, you get my drift but there’s been loads over the last few years and I always give £10-20. My husband is doing a huge challenge in April and the sponsorship has been live for months and I’ve sent the link out twice and not one of them has sponsored him. None of them are badly off - they just can’t be bothered I reckon and I’m pretty annoyed. AIBU? Would you do? I’ll know better next time when darling Henry wants money for pushing his teddy around the local f’ing playing field.

OP posts:
NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/03/2025 22:23

Rewis · 02/03/2025 21:12

Quite honestly these are usually vanity projects for middle class people who want to do something and they disguise it as charity. Like a senior consultant with high salary taking the challenge of cycling to Paris or climbing a mountain. It is going to charity but I'd just rather donate directly and these people can run 42k their own dime and time.

That being said. If I had asked someone to donate then I'd donate back to those people.

Edited

You don't tend to find many consultants or chief financial officers removing invasive plant species from downland or dragging fifty beer cans and half a burnt out Nissan from a wildlife pond, in my experience.

Ten a penny at the start line for a race, though.

crockofshite · 02/03/2025 22:23

RyvitaBrevis · 02/03/2025 22:05

OP, if your husband is truly trying tor raise money for MND, he is doing a good thing. I can't believe how many miserable people there are on this thread. If charities do not ask for money, directly themselves or through volunteer fundraisers like OP's DH fundraising on their behalf, they do not get as much money as if they asked. If you do not ask, you do not get. That is the reality of charity funding. For everyone saying, I'll decide which charities to support unprompted, most would go bust before you remember to send your unprompted donation if they are relying on solely on that. And I always sponsor adult friends who ask with £10 or £20 because that's what friends do. If £20 was the difference between me being able to pay my bills or not, then of course I wouldn't. But it's not.

Edited

Not wanting to sponsor doesn't mean not wanting to give to charity.

Sponsorship usually involves paying an admin fee before anything else goes to the charity.

Better to give direct to your chosen cause and dump the middle man.

AthWat · 02/03/2025 22:23

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 02/03/2025 22:22

I think charities could provide 'proof of entry payment' to the person doing whatever it is, that could really help.

To be honest if I didn't trust the person sufficiently not to be lying about that if they just said it, I wouldn't be giving anyway.

Zov · 02/03/2025 22:24

Primmyhill · 02/03/2025 22:18

Thank you. I didn’t expect everyone to agree with me but the ridiculous presumptions and belittling of someone trying to do something for a friend has been quite an eye opener!

You have had a hard time on here @Primmyhill from many - including me - and I'm sorry for being a bit rude to you (and a bit harsh.) I think people have just found it jarring, because they have been ambushed and cornered so many times by so many people to give money, and donate to their DH or DC's sponsored 'thing,' and have had enough of being ambushed by chuggers and beggars in the streets, on the exits of shops and stores, at their own door, and at 1 in 3 checkouts they pay at.

So I think it's just jarred people. That's why people have piled on.

No hard feelings. Flowers I hope your DH manages to get some support, but I think many of your pals just feel like many on this thread. And as has been said, some people do just try to raise money to pay for something they want to do/dream of doing, and much of the money goes to paying for said activity, and not much goes to the charity.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 02/03/2025 22:24

YABU

There are so many things doing the rounds that you can’t expect everyone to sponsor him.

Having said that other than for a very close family member I wouldn’t be sponsoring children doing walks round the playground etc. I never asked anyone to sponsor my kids for that kind of dross either. I just put in £20 myself

Terribletwoss · 02/03/2025 22:25

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 02/03/2025 22:19

If you were my friend, I'd know about your children and you could just ask - I would happily put in some money.

I think what many posters (including myself) don't like is the expectation that people will fall over themselves to pay for someone to do whatever it is that they're wanting to do. The cost of that should be borne by the person themselves and maybe the charities could send proof of 'fully funded by person'. I would be quite willing to pay a donation to the charity then because they'd get the money directly.

It is breathtakingly entitled for charity-wanna-doos to demand funding for something they are not prepared to pay for themselves and i think that is what people are objecting to.

I think I get it now.

A marathon or skydive is a no because it’s something that has fees and the person wants to do anyway, but something like a charity bake sale would maybe be okay? When people could choose to attend or not and the money clearly goes directly to the charity? so just post the link to the charity / bake sale time?

Please do correct me if I’m wrong! I want to do it correctly.

LittleCharlotte · 02/03/2025 22:26

Terribletwoss · 02/03/2025 22:01

Thanks!!

Bloody glad I read this thread, genuinely didn’t know how people felt about fundraising!

I’m a private person and posting at all will show everyone that my children have a disability (it’s very newly diagnosed my twins are not yet 2) but I know this place is going to help us for many years to come and just wanted to give as much to them as possible.

It's posters on Mumsnet, who generally hate most things. Plenty of people have no issues supporting a charity venture.

I sponsor as much as I can and like the OP I find it a bit disappointing when people I've supported don't support me in return. I guess that you just learn who to donate to in future.

Give your husband's event a push about A week before he does it and you'll get a better response. I often don't sponsor until the actual event because I'm short of cash. Good luck to him and to all fundraisers!

Hwi · 02/03/2025 22:27

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 02/03/2025 22:19

If you were my friend, I'd know about your children and you could just ask - I would happily put in some money.

I think what many posters (including myself) don't like is the expectation that people will fall over themselves to pay for someone to do whatever it is that they're wanting to do. The cost of that should be borne by the person themselves and maybe the charities could send proof of 'fully funded by person'. I would be quite willing to pay a donation to the charity then because they'd get the money directly.

It is breathtakingly entitled for charity-wanna-doos to demand funding for something they are not prepared to pay for themselves and i think that is what people are objecting to.

Bravo - exactly - breathtakingly entitled

madamweb · 02/03/2025 22:27

WellsAndThistles · 02/03/2025 22:07

YANBU Definitely don't sponsor little Johnnie for his hopping on one leg in aid of 3 legged donkeys again.

The ones that annoy me the most are folk raising money for some rare medical condition that no one has heard of because their 2nd cousin twice removed has just been diagnosed. Number of times I've had to explain I already donate to several well known health care charities and won't be sponsoring them for Human Felis Wartus Itchy itis of the scrotum.....

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You realise that rare disease you are mocking might be genuinely devastating?

Lots of rare diseases are devastating, or life limiting, or profoundly disabling. They are just as terrible and horrible as cancer but more so because people think they are something to joke about, or dismiss, or ignore, or not donate to. So you don't even have hope, or care packages, or respite care, or sympathy. It's lonely and crap having a rare disease or caring for someone with a rare disease.

They don't have the big fundraising juggernauts like Macmillan behind them but they can be just as likely, if not more so, to involve debilitating treatments, or a devastating prognosis. And even when they are just low level you don't have the same support or understanding or empathy that you would get from a condition someone had heard of.

Charities for rare diseases will almost certainly have much less bureaucracy and cost wastage than a large cancer charity and their recipients are just as deserving of care and support

I think joking about rare conditions is deeply unpleasant and ignorant

murasaki · 02/03/2025 22:28

Terribletwoss · 02/03/2025 22:25

I think I get it now.

A marathon or skydive is a no because it’s something that has fees and the person wants to do anyway, but something like a charity bake sale would maybe be okay? When people could choose to attend or not and the money clearly goes directly to the charity? so just post the link to the charity / bake sale time?

Please do correct me if I’m wrong! I want to do it correctly.

That sounds totally fine. I'd come and buy a cake or two.

madamweb · 02/03/2025 22:29

Primmyhill · 02/03/2025 22:20

This made me laugh!

Why do rare diseases make you laugh? They can be life ending, life altering, disabling, painful, scary, isolating...

AthWat · 02/03/2025 22:30

Terribletwoss · 02/03/2025 22:25

I think I get it now.

A marathon or skydive is a no because it’s something that has fees and the person wants to do anyway, but something like a charity bake sale would maybe be okay? When people could choose to attend or not and the money clearly goes directly to the charity? so just post the link to the charity / bake sale time?

Please do correct me if I’m wrong! I want to do it correctly.

I can't see anyone having a problem with a bake sale; presumably all money paid on the day goes straight to the centre, and people have provided ingredients and time at their own cost. Very little to object to.

AthWat · 02/03/2025 22:31

LittleCharlotte · 02/03/2025 22:26

It's posters on Mumsnet, who generally hate most things. Plenty of people have no issues supporting a charity venture.

I sponsor as much as I can and like the OP I find it a bit disappointing when people I've supported don't support me in return. I guess that you just learn who to donate to in future.

Give your husband's event a push about A week before he does it and you'll get a better response. I often don't sponsor until the actual event because I'm short of cash. Good luck to him and to all fundraisers!

When you sponsor as much as you can, do you find out first how much of your money is going to the charity and how much covering the event costs for the person asking, or do you just assume it always goes to the charity, or indeed, not care?

Ponderingwindow · 02/03/2025 22:33

I’m very seen too many of these where the sponsorship basically buys the opportunity for the person to participate in their hobby. I don’t donate to charity via this mechanism anymore for that reason. I want my money to be used effectively. I do sometimes find the charity that is mentioned interesting and worthy and make a direct donation.

I never ask for people to sponsor my child. I cover that myself. I find the entire idea of having children ask other people to pay for them to participate in activities or to raise money for the school distasteful.

Primmyhill · 02/03/2025 22:33

AthWat · 02/03/2025 22:12

You won't name the event but you did say you have paid all your own costs, was this something that was made clear to people who were asked for sponsorship?

Absolutely!

OP posts:
Whycanineverthinkofone · 02/03/2025 22:34

Terribletwoss · 02/03/2025 22:25

I think I get it now.

A marathon or skydive is a no because it’s something that has fees and the person wants to do anyway, but something like a charity bake sale would maybe be okay? When people could choose to attend or not and the money clearly goes directly to the charity? so just post the link to the charity / bake sale time?

Please do correct me if I’m wrong! I want to do it correctly.

Yes. I don’t see the point of donating when it’s likely my donations will pay toward the fees of doing the activity that Johnny wants to do, with maybe a little left over.

a cake sale, presuming cakes are donated which is nearly always the case, 100% will go toward the charity. Plus I get cake!

RyvitaBrevis · 02/03/2025 22:34

AthWat · 02/03/2025 22:21

I know in some cases they are, and in some cases they are not. That's kind of the whole point. If they are, they might as well just provide a direct link to the chairty of course.
Just Giving, I believe, sends money to whoever the person has set up the Just Giving page wants it sent to. The vast majority are not registered charities.

Organisations do need to be a charity or be an unregistered charity (e.g. a community amateur sport association, girl guiding unit) with a GiftAid number from HMRC to use JustGiving. (The JustGiving company itself is not a charity.) GoFundMe, Crowdfunder etc can give money to anyone.

Moveoverdarlin · 02/03/2025 22:37

A bake sale is fine! You are getting something in return and it’s usually a few pounds. Forking out £20 or more for Jonny to take his 4k road bike cycling through the South of France in June to raise money for such and such charity irks a little bit. We all know he’ll have a bloody lovely time.

Hwi · 02/03/2025 22:38

madamweb · 02/03/2025 22:27

You realise that rare disease you are mocking might be genuinely devastating?

Lots of rare diseases are devastating, or life limiting, or profoundly disabling. They are just as terrible and horrible as cancer but more so because people think they are something to joke about, or dismiss, or ignore, or not donate to. So you don't even have hope, or care packages, or respite care, or sympathy. It's lonely and crap having a rare disease or caring for someone with a rare disease.

They don't have the big fundraising juggernauts like Macmillan behind them but they can be just as likely, if not more so, to involve debilitating treatments, or a devastating prognosis. And even when they are just low level you don't have the same support or understanding or empathy that you would get from a condition someone had heard of.

Charities for rare diseases will almost certainly have much less bureaucracy and cost wastage than a large cancer charity and their recipients are just as deserving of care and support

I think joking about rare conditions is deeply unpleasant and ignorant

Can't agree more - they are not called orphan diseases for nothing - because nobody literally gives a shit and nobody wants to do research as it will never pay back. Truly scary and must be lonely and people must feel abandoned. Can't agree more.

AthWat · 02/03/2025 22:42

Primmyhill · 02/03/2025 22:33

Absolutely!

I'm surprised in that case, if you were aware of the necessity to do so when you asked for sponsorship I'd have thought you'd have mentioned it here straight away.

NoobieDoobie11 · 02/03/2025 22:43

Haven’t read most of the comments but just to say good luck to your husband and anyone else doing something nice in the world.

I'm really randomly doing the dementia uk challenge this month (walking with my dog 😂) I obviously do it everyday anyway so not the hardest challenge but all for a good cause. All my family and friends have been so generous. For me personally it’s less about sponsoring a person and just an opportunity to give to a worth while charity! I hope others aren’t put off with negative comments about sponsorship 👍

Primmyhill · 02/03/2025 22:44

madamweb · 02/03/2025 22:29

Why do rare diseases make you laugh? They can be life ending, life altering, disabling, painful, scary, isolating...

Of course they don’t! Just the name that she called it!

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Notahandmaid · 02/03/2025 22:47

Completely get where you’re coming from, OP. I sponsor people all the time so would be a little irritated if I did an challenge and they didn’t sponsor me back. Also get your irritation at sponsoring children for something that’s not a huge challenge. I haven’t read the whole thread but am surprised to see YABU coming out top.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 02/03/2025 22:48

Primmyhill · 02/03/2025 20:27

Ok, I know times are hard and there are loads of people asking for sponsorship etc but I’m just a bit hacked off. In the past I’ve sponsored friends kids for things like walking around the playground at lunch time, sponsored silence etc, you get my drift but there’s been loads over the last few years and I always give £10-20. My husband is doing a huge challenge in April and the sponsorship has been live for months and I’ve sent the link out twice and not one of them has sponsored him. None of them are badly off - they just can’t be bothered I reckon and I’m pretty annoyed. AIBU? Would you do? I’ll know better next time when darling Henry wants money for pushing his teddy around the local f’ing playing field.

You can’t force people to sponsor someone if they don’t want to. You shouldn’t only sponsor people’s children so they will return the favour, give willingly or don’t give at all.

RyvitaBrevis · 02/03/2025 22:48

I can't find any recent figures on the average bake sale income, but from experience, I'd say it's around £100 - £200. Last year, 10,000 people running the Great North Run raised £6 million+ on JustGiving. That's an average £600 each directly to charity (minus JustGiving payment processing fees), and it's likely Gift Aid was claimed on most of that, whereas you can't claim Gift Aid on a bakesale. I'm not saying you shouldn't have a bakesale, of course they have their place, but this idea that it's morally better to have bakesales is extremely reductive.

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