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Bring your whole self to work

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Porvendo · 02/03/2025 15:26

My organisation is big on 'bring your whole self to work' crap. We've done training sessions where we're meant to 'open up' about life's troubles etc and get to know each other more deeply.

I used to buy into it all and considered certain colleagues friends etc but more recently I've seen the organisation and some of its leaders in a whole new light (after a nasty redundancy process where we let go of 12 colleagues) and it all feels a bit like they were just duping us into work more hours and creating a sense of blind loyalty (a bit like a cult)

AIBU? Has anyone else experienced this at work

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FullDisclosure · 02/03/2025 18:38

Hydrangeadangerranger · 02/03/2025 18:28

I always thought it meant you don’t need to pretend to be something you’re not (straight/NT/hugely brave about giving presentations etc) rather than share all your darkest secrets with your colleagues?

This is what certain employers would say it means. But that wouldn't be 'bringing your whole self to work', it would be expecting not to be discriminated against as per your rights under employment laws.

I have never worked anywhere where people are not pretending to be something they are not. From Robbie in accounts who is pretending not to be hungover to David the senior manager who is pretending he regards his staff as family.

The most egregious bit of this type of 'authentic' bollockery I've encountered is when a pompous 30-something male boss set up and expected older female employees to attend something called a Menopause Brunch. They did not attend.

Andsoitbeganagain · 02/03/2025 18:42

Oh how I'd love them to try menopause brunch at my place. 😂

Cyclebabble · 02/03/2025 18:45

I am a Senior Manager in a large insurer. Organisations do care about staff to an extent. However, if an opportunity arises to cut costs, staff will be let go and attitude wise never fall into the trap of thinking if you work hard a business will look after you. They simply will not. I still work hard, but do so with this in mind. A company should never get part of your soul and if you over share it might be used against you. In disputes with Management I have seen mental health questioned where a staff member has previously disclosed that something serious- family illness, break up etc is going in their lives.

m00ngirl · 02/03/2025 18:49

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/03/2025 18:03

Great thread and brilliant responses.
The only advantage of this if it is enforced on you is that it gives you a clear warning of who to avoid in the workplace - the emotionally incontinent, the manipulators, those trying to impose their niche ideology on everyone else, the guilt trippers etc.

The rest of us just getting on with our work - that's where our allies are!

Agree, so glad to read the common sense in this thread!

I'm a manager and have openly criticised the concept on "bringing your whole self to work" at my workplace - thought it was common sense - but wasnt sure how my comment went down (well, with one quite narcissistic/neurotic other manager in particular).

I don't hugely care but also after reading this thread feel I'm definitely on the right side of this. I'm hugely supportive of my staff in every way, we all get on and we
chat so happen to know a fair amount about each others' lives, but there is a strong and well regarded expectation of professionalism, and personal boundaries. And thank fuck for that.

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 02/03/2025 18:49

Fairly sure I'd be arrested (or punched in the face as a minimum) if I brought my whole self to work.

MrRydersParlourGame · 02/03/2025 18:57

This is how you end up featuring staff dressed in a bondage harness or wielding a whip or warbling on about their non-binary identity in your company magazine or public photo exhibition. (Isn't it, John Lewis?)

No thanks. Professional self will do!

And - very genuinely - any staff experiencing personal difficulties, please see HR, your direct line manager and our funded third party resources!

HereWeAreInBoycottCity · 02/03/2025 19:27

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 02/03/2025 15:59

No, never share. HR are not your friend.

I agree HR (or the "People Team", as they style themselves) aren't your friends, but I would extend this to your employers aren't your friends either. Nor your boss, nor your colleagues.

Authentic self/whole self to work is about making a lot of noise by employers to say look we after our employees, without getting actual, meaningful changes implemented. It benefits a tiny amount of very loud, usually obnoxious people to dominate the conversation.

RosesAndHellebores · 02/03/2025 19:29

I give 120% of my professional life to work. At work my personal life is 120% private. All nosey Parker questions are met with a deflected question.

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 02/03/2025 19:29

HereWeAreInBoycottCity · 02/03/2025 19:27

I agree HR (or the "People Team", as they style themselves) aren't your friends, but I would extend this to your employers aren't your friends either. Nor your boss, nor your colleagues.

Authentic self/whole self to work is about making a lot of noise by employers to say look we after our employees, without getting actual, meaningful changes implemented. It benefits a tiny amount of very loud, usually obnoxious people to dominate the conversation.

It was People and Culture - when they made me redundant.
I said oh dear, you'll need to drop the 'culture' now.

Deedeesharpwhatkindoflady · 02/03/2025 19:56

Box ticking crap.
Will fuck you over in the blink of an eye.
Particularly oil and gas industry Ne Scotland.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/03/2025 20:16

hopeishere · 02/03/2025 16:29

Our place is a bit like this. They have trained up a whole load of mental health "first aiders" in case someone is having a crisis. I can't imagine anything I would want to do less than speak to a colleague if I was having a mental health crisis. I

I'm a private person. I don't really want my colleagues knowing too much about my life outside work. It's none of their business. DH was really really ill a few years ago, I never told anyone in work.

I found that the people who decided they wanted the MHFA qualification after I did it were exactly the people you wouldn't want knowing anything about you, as it would be taken straight to management or spread around as gossip.

So you have the 'We have twelve MHFAs' and 'but the only one you can actually trust is...'. And it gets a bit much sometimes hearing people completely offload about trauma and workplace arguments when you've just dropped in to say hello, knowing that beyond obvious safeguarding issues that would have to be disclosed, there is bugger all support if what they're saying causes me any discomfort.

In any case, seeing as work aren't exactly made up about the edited version of me that they get Mon-Fri, they certainly aren't ready for the rest of me.

Princessfluffy · 02/03/2025 21:25

Your work wants to own your whole self
They have not bought your soul, just your labour.

Babsgranddaughter · 02/03/2025 21:39

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 02/03/2025 19:29

It was People and Culture - when they made me redundant.
I said oh dear, you'll need to drop the 'culture' now.

I worked at a City law firm (colour us all grey) where HT were renamed the Talent Team.

Wtafdidido · 02/03/2025 22:37

No way. Work is work and my life outside is. MY life and MY business. If I dropped dead tomorrow they would replace me and move on in minutes. I go to work to work not to spill my guts about my home or social life. Once you start getting too pally lines get blurred and professionalism goes out the window. My work often organises nights out and team building Saturdays which are not compulsory but actually you are frowned upon for not going. I don’t and never have . I do go the Christmas lunch but don’t and never would drink with colleagues.

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