To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

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Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

I'm in awe of people on them but not jealous. I was obese at new year, I still am but am .1 away from being overweight having lost a stone. I really battled with should I shouldn't I for the jabs and decided for me it was a no.
Side effects, and maintenance being my two biggest worries. So for those that have overcome my worries I have admiration not jealousy and I think these jabs have encouraged me as I don't want to be the fat one when everyone else is slim! So as a placebo from the sides I'm spurred on to keep up albeit without the drugs.
People who have used them successfully are doing what's right for them

Oh my gosh! You could have been me a few months ago!!

I have a big middle so at 45 was a size 14 (maybe a little bigger) but my BMI was "only" 26.5. This is the biggest I've ever been however! In my twenties and before children I was a size 10, occasionally an 8! BMI between 18 and 21. I also found the older I got the harder it's been to loose weight.

I got fed up of seeing celebs who were already thin, use these jabs and get thinner. I got fed up of seeing obese friends loose weight and shimmy on down the clothes sizes to my ideal weight when I was still left behind in me elasticated waist size 14 Tesco jeans because nothing else looked nice on me.

Then in December I thought sod it. I bumped my weight up a bit on the online forms and got a prescription for mounjaro.

Best thing I've ever done! I've already lost two stone since Jan 1st this year. My husband knows and is supportive because he's seen how distressed I was getting with my weight and how many diets etc I've been on in my life.

I have had v few side effects and feel really healthy. I've done all the research and quite frankly there is not one article I've read (and I've read a LOT) that indicates I'm at greater risk than anyone else taking the jabs. In fact, in my opinion, if you r healthy when you start the jabs you can tolerate them better and they r less risky. I've seen no research to counteract that opinion.

I'm not suggesting you lie to get the jab. But I have, and I know people will flame me for it. But it's changing my life and this week when I wore a jumper I've not worn for years and it fit and I felt great, my smile and happiness started to come back! My husband can see I have a spring in my step!

For the first time in 15 years, I will not feel ugly on holiday this summer and can wear a swim suit without feeling sick and nervous.

I take the medication and have lost some weight from a BMI above 30 to probably around 28 now. For me it is taking a long time, I very much doubt I will ever be stick thin and I know I will have to take it for life or I will gain the weight back quickly (having had a couple of breaks). I have a low level nausea some mornings, am randomly itchy at various times of day and night and I definitely can’t eat a big meal when socially I am expected to. I do worry a bit about possible long term effects.

I get the jealousy when you see super responders who are now a size 8 and I imagine your ED history is affecting how you feel about it all. I wonder how I would have felt 15 years ago when I was overweight but my BMI was below 30 so I couldn’t have had the injections and was working hard with various diets, To be honest I think it’s not worth the downsides if you don’t have the medical need for it. Not everyone will lose as much as your friends anyway and the side effects can be awful or just low level annoying,

@Youreboringme no it's not aesthetics. I was obese with high cholesterol. I didn't / don't / won't ever qualify for Mounjaro on the NHS but did qualify for a private prescription due to obesity and high cholesterol having long term health consequences if you don't take action.

Now 50lbs down and focusing on continuing my health journey with more exercise and better eating habits.

Naloxone does this for alcohol and bueprenorphine does the same for opiates, they exist but the problem with addiction is that it is a bio/psycho/social issue and so it's not as simple as just reducing the addiction noise.

You can take them for life if need be. I believe that they are a lot heathlier than many diets. I lived for my “Syns” when I did slimming world. Now I have zero desire to eat anything unhealthy.

Really? If the people OP is jealous of are getting prescription medication fraudulently rather than needing it there's no need for jealousy as it's a path open to her too if she's prepared for any consequences of fraudulent use.

I’m not sure why 1200 calories per days is being bandied about as the amount of calories a person eats in a day on WLM because it’s nonsense.

The rule of thumb is that you work out your TDEE then deduct let’s say 500 calories per day in order to be in a calorie deficit and what you have left is your daily calorie intake. I’m currently on 1400 but at the start of my journey I was on 1600.

And not being able to eat 1200 calories a day? I doubt it, and if it really is the case then I’d question the persons height and build as well as the meals they’re eating.

But truth be told Op there’s so much in you posts that just don’t add up I’m going to take them with a pinch of calorie free salt.

Once you are on medication for high cholesterol or high blood pressure you are probably on those for life too.

I chose to take Mounjaro to reset my weight so I wouldn't need to take statins for life. Maybe I will need Mounjaro for life - who knows but I am currently a lot healthier weight and cholesterol wise than I was a year ago.

Botox envy, jab envy, income envy, holiday envy. So much envy in the world these days!

I’ve got no problem with people taking the jabs. It’s the people who lie about it and claim that they lost the weight by walking 10,000 steps and watching what they eat. It gives such unrealistic expectations

OP I hear you but you are glamorising these injections too much.

They can have serious side effects and now more research is coming out because they’ve got the longer term data, that shows that these serious side effects are more common than originally thought.

People only take them because staying obese is more dangerous for them than the potential side effects.

People will also put on a lot of weight once they come off of it and so if you only have 6lbs to lose, then you’ll likely end up putting twice as much back on.

The idea is that those who are morbidly obese will use these as a helping hand but also do things that help control the psychological side of things.

And when they do put weight back on, they hopefully won’t put as much back on because they’ve got the won’t be eating for the wrong reasons.

Remember obesity is a disease and there is a reason why people are obese.
These injections act as a tool to help.
They aren’t a magic wand.

The people who use them are thankful for them but they would rather be able to lose and maintain a healthy weight without the need for them considering they are expensive, have side effects and are only a temporary fix.

Anyone with just a few pounds to lose would be stupid to take it and that’s exactly why they’re not designed for people under a certain BMI.

You aren't eligible then as you've previously had an eating disorder

Its possible for some people to reverse high cholesterol and high blood pressure through lifestyle, lose weight, improve diet etc. If you do that then no need for the medication.

Blame the dieting industry, blame the food industry, blame the media that fetishises slim people … but don’t go blaming people who are taking control of their health and want to keep their medication private.

As wonderful as that is, this is quite clearly not the situation the OP was talking about in her examples.

Unrealistic expectations for who?

The reason people lie is because of the judgment as soon as you mention WLI.

I was at my Christmas do and people were complimenting me on my weight loss. I usually avoid answering the question of "how" but I'd had a few drinks and decided to be honest. First comment was "oh so you cheated then"

I just saw your update OP.

I didn't realise you have an ED history and now feel a bit guilty for posting about how great the drug has been for me. Please be careful.

I did have bulimia in my history but I've been free of it for over 20years. To be fair, the mounjaro I believe has actually helped with any residuals of that because the food noise has gone.

However, anorexia is a completely different kettle of fish. I really believe this drug could re-trigger anorexia, so please be very careful.

I know I'm a hypocrite because I have had bulimia in my past, but my advice is be v v v careful if you have an eating disorder history. Please.

If this drug had been available when I was actively bulimic and desperate to be BMI 15 or lower, then this would have been incredibly dangerous for me and potentially lethal. With your anorexia history, please be v v careful....

Human nature.

@arcticpandas with a BMI of 20, if you’re hungry at 11 it’s because you didn’t eat enough breakfast.

I’m on them. I still have some food noise, just much reduced. I’m on the highest dose you can get.

It’s not magic. It’s just another tool.

I suspect that if you only need to lose 3/4 stone it seems it. When you need to lose 10+ not so much.

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No it isnt

A lot of people on this thread - well some anyway - are using the meds for vanity. To feel nicer in a swimsuit on holiday etc. not for reasons connected to health.

My BMI was over 50 when I started. I was effectively disabled by my weight. I didn’t have a normal life. I’ve still got BMI over 40 but my quality of life has improved so much. My cholesterol has gone down from being on the point of needing statins to a normal level. I can walk for miles and exercise again. I don’t have to worry about fitting in seats if I go anywhere. I’ll probably never look nice in a swimsuit as my goal weight is probably still more than a lot of people’s “fat, disgusting and miserable” weights on here. People like me are who this drug is for and it is absolutely a medical treatment for a medical condition at this level

I debated it for well over a year, if you want them and you qualify go for it. It's not a magic plaster, it's been really hard, I'm on a low dose of ozempic as I can't tolerate what they consider a therapeutic dose.

She doesn't qualify. That's the point.
Neither do I.