To think the Republican Party need to wake up and find their spine?

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The Republican Party are responsible for President Trump. Given that they have a majority in both Houses and on the Supreme Court, they are the only ones who can prevent him further damaging the US and its citizens.

Their fear and appeasement of the bully Trump has only made him stronger, but we are where we are and can only go from here.

AIBU to think Republicans need to find their spine, guts and voice to stop appeasing/placating Trump and do their duty for the American people?

@Odin2018 it doesn't work like that and you know it doesn't due to global stock markets, many US merchant banks here etc ,pension funds etc - the US and dodgy lending practice caused a financial meltdown at that point - doubt the US are busy paying reparations to the UK for that . It caused a UK bank to have to be bought out by the gvt and several others only survived by the skin of their teeth

Oh and 4 billion whilst clearly a lot is a piss in the wind in terms of 'loans' - the way Trump and Vance talk you would think all the aid was 'repayable loans' - it quite clearly isn't by a very long way -

Why do you think they don't want to pay it back? It isn't due to be repaid for about 40 years. Hard to tell what you're talking about tbh, you seem very muddled.

Even if Trump and Vance are dumped before they start WW3 the damage to US reputation is irrevocable. Nobody will trust them ever again so whatever happens they’re on their own.
Oh, sorry I forgot Russia now that Putin is their new bestie. Problem is that psychopaths don’t tend to be very reliable in general.
The republicans are a bunch of self serving cowards and the democrats are incompetent and out of touch with reality.
How can it happen in such an enormous and supposedly educated country that the two candidates were a convicted sex offender who raised a treasonous violent assault or a man who very clearly was in age related mental decline?
Then the democrats leave it far too late to bite the bullet and replace him and when they do it is with a black woman who, given the US racism and misogyny, was never going to win.
Don’t misunderstand me - I would love to see a black woman president but realistically this wasn’t time to push your luck with such an audience.
Maga has uncovered the greed and racism which exists in huge swathes of the population and made both into admirable qualities.
However this ends the dirty belly of the US has tasted power and bearing in mind they are the ones with the most guns I think civil war is inevitable.

On the 2008, Scandal, each player in that situation choose to willingly be greedy, with there Cdo's and various other methods of spinning the risk and making profits. Those big banks uk and Usa etc each choose to play the game.

If Ukraine doesn't need the money then don't ask Trump America for anymore if its not about the money Ukraine should have plenty to continue. If everyone just thinks ira about lives then keep going WITHOUT American money. Obviously Ukraine doesn't need it.

European countries together will have a huge army. You can go fight without needing America if European countries are such great allies. Obviously youb don't NEED America if you are angry about the position they want to take. Just ignore America and get on with it. Let's check how well Ukraine and Europ is doing. You might be smashing the Russians, although that would be great, I wouldn't bet on it at all!

Why do people keep on banging om about America, you have Europe.

If I give one person my money and don't take any back from them then that's up to me - not the person.

If I give someone else money and say I want it back, that's up to me, NOT the other person. It's MY money, and I get to choose what and who I give it to under what terms.

What planet are you from? Do you let others who you give money to tell you whether or not they will pay you back? Are you a child on here? I can't think of any other reason why such a ridiculous comment would be made!

This has already been explained to you; allies. Siding with allies against a dictator.

America was meant to be an ally. Just as Europe assisted the States after 9/11, America was assisting Europe regarding Putin's imperialism.

You need to read the news. Europe has come together to assist Ukraine despite the States aligning with their aggressor.

You're also perfectly aware that Ukraine does need the money. If you don't want to talk about the States, stay away from threads on the States.

Im talking about the amount of banks selling and investing in the mortgage backed securities eg the film Margin call covers it well

Baffling, isn't it.

And not an ounce of empathy or compassion

As I used the analogy on another post

It's as If your mum buys you a house outright- no strings attached- then remarried and your stepfather rocks up asking when you are going to start paying her back .

If it's correct that only 4billion was only ever under a 'loan' agreement and not due to be paid till 2065 then Trump has no business calling it constantly as'calling in 'loans' - as if 'all' the aid was under loan terms. It clearly was not. He knows full well that to a large extent he holds the cards, so is now just acting like a big bully to get commercial advantage and disguising it as 'seeking peace' - peace would be telling Putin to bugger off out of a sovereign nation or agreeing a deal whereby they 'all' benefited financially whilst guaranteeing protections for Ukraine from repeat actions.

Trump has zero diplomacy skills or manners. It all reminds me of his business habits in getting people to do work and then offering them 60c on the dollar because they can't afford to sue him. He's always been a dodgy charlatan, and he still is

Not muddled am I.
Take someone else's money you need to give it back. If that takes half a decade to do then American seems to be prepared to wait it out for total pay back.

Well Zelenzy has now had to eat humble pie and beg Trump to let him come back and discuss/ negotiate to pay back the money Ukraine took from them. Zelensky has had to swallow his big pride, drop the emotion and come to the big boys business table because the European countries are not prepared to pay for it, are they? Such good allies the Europeans, but yet won't fully fund Ukraine BUT Trump America is sooo bad - it's all his fault - nothing to do with Europe. Makes total sense, doesn't it?

You can feel sorry for people but that doesn't mean you throw all commonsense and reality out the window. Emotional blackmail works on some people but many see through this and from the outside looking in can see that the endless deaths and bodies of men, women and children will no longer be the best option especially when now it's clear that it is highly unlikely that Ukraine will win as American wants to see peace and Europe wont fully fund the war.

That's what you do. Sit down at the big table and talk it out and not just run rampaging and shouting on blind emotions alone.

If you would like to see more deaths and destruction, by all means continue the war and beg Europe to fund you as Trump won't. What's stopping Europe, eh!

@Odin2018 how about US put their significant might behind coming down hard on Putin-? But no they won't do that because they have too much to hide and Trump has been taking Russian cash for years for business- the old expression'follow the money' and oh in his case 'follow the sleaze'

Stop harping on about Putin. Do you want more Ukraine men, women and children to die? Do you? Is that what you want? Fight till the last man standing? Think about the lives of YOUR people. If they don't matter and you want to fight, then keep fighting but you see that Europe won't fund you totally and America wants the bloodshed to end on both sides.
Think about Ukrainians dying and continuing to die. If you really think you will win then keep going but the funding from the Europe is not enough for you to win.

A majority of Ukranians do not want to stop fighting now, and only 20% believe that the current "peace talks" are even legitimate.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2025/03/03/how-popular-is-zelensky-in-ukraine-what-the-polls-show/

The Ukranians know that Putin will just violate this deal, like he has all the other ones.

If anyone truly believed a lasting peace was on the table, the current conversation would be entirely different.

"Well Zelenzy has now had to eat humble pie and beg Trump to let him come back and discuss/ negotiate to pay back the money Ukraine took from them. Zelensky has had to swallow his big pride, drop the emotion and come to the big boys business table because the European countries are not prepared to pay for it, are they? Such good allies the Europeans, but yet won't fully fund Ukraine BUT Trump America is sooo bad - it's all his fault - nothing to do with Europe. Makes total sense, doesn't it?"

Yes Zelensky is being forced to come to the table because he has been bullied into it. Do you not know anything about bullies and their tactics?

Keep fighting but without Europe fully funding you it is fairly obvious you won't win and will lose more territory as time goes by. You cannot fight a war with just passion, money plays a huge part. If you don't have enough what do you think will happen?
Emotions and pride alone cannot win a war - why do you think Zelensky has had to eat humble pie when it comes to America?

Ask Europe to keep funding you as they keep encouraging you to keep fighting.

Why do you keep talking about “you”? This is a UK site, ie not in a country fighting a war.

Yes stop harping on about Putin @Crikeyalmighty, it gets in the way of the truth narrative. Putin is just a sweet old bystander who would never harm anyone. Look come and see this lovely window!

I have no idea who I am talking to or what country they are from. Not everyone is from the UK. Never heard of VPNs?

Is that user a bot?

The things they're posting don't make sense.

The VPN comment is weird.

You can keep shouting about Putin but that shouting , hating and being angry wont save your men, women and children from dying. Yes, you hate him and so....
What do you want? Keep fighting if Europe will fund you. Get angry with Europe for not giving you more money to fight. America doesn't want to give you anymore money unless the fighting stops. So get angry with Europe for not giving you more money as everyone hates Putin. Why keep on discussing America. Get on with it with the support of Europe if you can. Let's see if Europe is 100% behind you continuing the fight.

See it's response to JadededViewer, too, and how is doesn't at all relate to it.

Do I really need to spell it out that someone from a different country can join a UK site using their VPN if the site is country restricted. You only need a very simple understanding ( and I mean basic, simple, a 10 year old's knowledge) to do so.