To think Britain should have nothing to do with this war

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After yesterday's news, Britain shouldn't be the one funding war as USA has said they are out now. There's no chance Britain can fight this war alone with Ukraine against Russia.
Since this war started, our life has only become miserable with CoL increase.
AIBU to think we shouldn't have anything to do this war and we should fix our own problems first before giving away our tax money?

@Hwi but foreign countries, including Eastern European ones, are not our concern.

They will be our concern when they are part of Russia and integrated into his army? Russia is not going to stop once it has everything back

Thing is, I am not rich and that is why I begrudge foreign aid every pence. I did nothing to deserve my freedom, you are right, older generations did. That is why I begrudge winter fuel payments morphing into foreign aid, which has not stopped. And I am embarrassed by the 'white saviour jobs' in foreign aid organisations, like the ones you mention - where expats live in vastly superior conditions to the locals, yet say 'we are in it together'. What colonial powers did was wrong, but it has been a while - they can sort their own countries themselves. Not our problem.

@Hwi speak for yourself, you ghoul. People with a shred of humanity care about others, regardless of where they’re from. Doubly so if they are facing an aggressor that we can actually do something about.

I bet you vote Reform.

You're not sorry

You're not "upsetting" anyone. You're repulsing them.

Your comments are as stupid as they are disgusting.

If you want our citizens to enjoy basics like not waking up one morning to find 20,000 Russians on the front lawn then that costs money. Soz.

I'm finding all the news really bleak and the one small bright spot is when these (likely) bots start trying to plant seeds of doubt about supporting Ukraine they get told to piss off. Our country has got a lot wrong recently but not this.

Well said!

You don't understand. It will be our problem if Ukraine are trampled to death by Russia and we allow it. It will have an impact on all of us.

I can tell you don't care about Ukrainian people, even their children being trampled to death, but it will impact you and your Nigel in so many ways if we step away and say go for it.

To the previous but one poster -

Sorry, forgot to write - repellent, not what you wrote. Also, I am sorry, I understand you are worried about people sacked from their 'foreign aid' jobs - I totally understand. Often those charitable organisations pay generously for their employees' children's boarding schools, etc. I totally understand.

I would very much like Britain to have nothing to do with war, but sticking our heads in the sand and looking the other way isn't going to work.
It won't prevent the war. It won't stop it affecting us. All it'll do is hand more power to Putin, hurt the Ukraine and ultimately damage the UK more.

Trump has sided with tyranny. We have to view this US administration as hostile to our interests. We can’t trust them to keep their word or be party to any intelligence we are in possession of. And we need to get closer to our European neighbours, fellow liberal democracies - strength in numbers.

I am speaking for myself and quite a few people I know - and of course I respect your right to donate to the cause, house those who seek refuge in your home, send your wages to the cause altogether, fly whatever non-UK flag you want to fly, etc. etc. I just don't care enough for foreign problems, that is all.

On another thread I remember you were flaunting your Christianity & talking about how the country was going downhill since Elton John sang in Westminster Abbey.😂

True Christians care for their brothers & sisters in Christ across borders lines. As St Paul said, 'We are all one in Christ Jesus.' I can understand why you felt the UK was better off w the Iron Curtain, I agree wr could not intervene. The issue is your callousness. Speaking of Eastern Europe as an amorphous, 'They', as if there was no difference between Russia and the countries it colonised. Writing as of the immense suffering of the USSR is of no import as long as the UK is safe.

I am glad you did. I didn’t. I was not as lucky as you and grew up on the other side of the curtain. The world was not nicely divided. We, the people on my side of the curtain, were the collateral damage. We were the price the West had to pay to get Stalin on their side in WWII. We did not want to be a communist country.
And we were scared. We grew up fearing Soviet Invasion if people protested too loudly. We feared Soviet invasion in 1980 and in martial law in 1981.
There were Soviet troops stationed in my country, but not to protect us. They were there to control us.I was born in 1968 but older people remembered what happened in Czechoslovakia.
I was scared that my father would be arrested for being involved in anti communist movement.
That’s why I think the world has to support Ukraine.They should not be the price we pay for easy life.

So, I'm really interested to know why you think a person living overseas as part of a "foreign aid organisation" (actually your government) and living in "vastly superior circumstances" (very true, or vastly, easier, more fortunate, superior is a bit of a shitty word) is any different from you living in "vastly superior circumstances" in the UK?

Piss off with your white saviour. That's a convenient, stupid excuse to trash aid. Mostly the beneficiaries would laugh in your face if you said that to them. There's nothing white saviour about aid done right in collaboration with local people. It isn't charity, it's justice.

And absolutely fuck off with your "we are all in it together." I have never heard a single person in this field say that, it would be farcically untrue. You come across as someone who doesn't know much about the world.

And yes, you are rich.

I DO understand - he won't touch the UK - all his cronies have their children in our boarding schools and at UK universities, he is not going to bomb his own, is he? If you dislike the fact, you should have protested numerous PMs, who allowed dirty Russian money and their corrupt Russian families settle here since 1992 and buy our politicians since 1994.

Diplomatic solutions. They had a ceasefire, putin broke it. Putin doesnt want a diplomatic solution, war is an abomination but jesus christ, let's just give the invader, the bully, the warmonger what they want? People are still alive from WW2 but we've already forgotten.

Bully says give me your lunch money and you do it because youre scared of getting beaten up and everyone around is to coward to stand with you... How does that work out?

I’m from Ukraine and Latvia, moved here in the early 90s. I’m not hungry for war. Putin will try and take all previous USSR occupied territories back. Do you have any idea how many of these countries are full of ethnic Russians who refuse to speak the language of the country they are in - in Latvia it’s 40%. Almost half the population that won’t speak Latvian and idealise ‘mother Russia’ strange that they don’t want to move back there isn’t it? Those people were sent in 80 years ago to dilute the native people of those countries. From everything you have said it evident that you can’t even consider that many people have lived through occupation and war - it’s something you can’t comprehend otherwise your responses wouldn’t be so inane and blasé about ‘war’. There is no peace with Russia, there won’t be until the next generation come along - those in their 40s/30s who are not stuck in the past. It’s a generational thing, indoctrination in fierce in Russia and not something to underestimate. Majority of my schooling was steeped in indoctrination. If you have lived in the west your whole life it’s not something you can understand.

You're right. @Hwi is showing something but not primarily her age. That post is disgusting.

Is the UK self sufficient now? We no longer need to import energy or food?

Because never mind about what is morally right, what happens in other countries is very much our concern - foreign aid isn't actually given out of charity, it's to promote the interests of the UK.

I don’t think it’s a very good idea for us to piss off the Americans.

Some of you are asking us to think about history. Ok then. From what I remember the Italians and Germans were the aggressors in WW2, and the French let the Germans walk through to get to us. Then the Americans joined in and were pivotal in saving our arses.

Of course there was more to it than this, however I really don’t believe the Americans would stand by and ever let anyone bomb the UK. I think they’d react to protect us immediately.

The rest of Europe….France, Germany, Spain, Italy…..hmmmmm I wouldn’t hold my breath.

You're just a troll. One misspelled word doesn't make wrong. I write for a living and I don't give a fuck about your little spelling corrections. The rest of your post I won't even bother with, it's honestly truly pathetic.

The number of people who don’t seem to understand that we’re already involved and why is astounding tbh.

I suppose there must have been similar ignorance in the 1930s when Germany was advancing on the rest of Europe. It was in our interest to get involved then and it is now it seems. It’s just a shame history is repeating itself. I know my grandparents had hoped WW2 was the last one forever.

Whether you like it or not OP the world is a global place and issues in one area impact on one another as we've all seen with Ukraine- even if we are hard about it and look at it from a purely commercial angle issues in Ukraine or US or Middle East or China etc impact on everything from cost of living to pension funds . We are not a completely self sufficient country unless we actually do invest more in domestic energy which probably would have to include nuclear and live only on stuff produced here- which is pretty restricting.

Wow how naive can you be? Putin has never cared about collateral damage. There are plenty of 'his own' in Ukraine.