To think Britain should have nothing to do with this war

[Foodtimeisit]

After yesterday's news, Britain shouldn't be the one funding war as USA has said they are out now. There's no chance Britain can fight this war alone with Ukraine against Russia.
Since this war started, our life has only become miserable with CoL increase.
AIBU to think we shouldn't have anything to do this war and we should fix our own problems first before giving away our tax money?

Don’t be silly 😂

Erm what? Is that you trump?

I think Sweden and Finland would disagree given they have recently joined.

I would say NATO is going to stronger than ever as it members invest more to replace the capabilities previously provided by the US

My mate 😂 😆 i wish lol

I'm just giving my view

The money has always been there, it has rightly been used as a bargaining chip against Russia. It has always been Russias money and now they are getting it back just in a more "material" form.

@HelplessSoul
Zelensky started this war and now wants others to bankroll his misadventure as he continues to force people to die in an unwinnable war, all while remaining an unelected President that has outstayed his scheduled term in office.

Stop lying.

@HelplessSoul
Sorry?
When did I say Ukraine was in the EU?
Ukraine is the second largest country in EUROPE. You know, that continent which is located to the West from Asia?

No, we should not stop helping Ukraine because independent Ukraine is crucial to preserving the independence of other European countries.

Zelensky is forcing UK and other countries to keep funding his war. It's his war more than anything. If it was about Poland or any other country, we should have seen the intention already but it's not about it. We need to define how long are we going to keep funding wars and destroy other countries. We have already seen what our forces did to Afghanistan and Iraq, just devastation and refugees.

You’ve really overegged the pudding there

I never claimed that you said they were in the EU.

Do try and read what I wrote before responding.

As said, Ukraine would never do for UK citizens, what the UK has done for theirs.

And if you (and others) want to support Ukraine so much - go right ahead and send your loved ones to the front lines to help out.

But none of you will - you're all talk.

You mean a bit like the billions in tax breaks we give to huge profit-making multinationals like Amazon and BP? This goes on year after year after year after year …

But don't you see that the fate of the British people is unavoidably linked to what happens to Ukraine? No one is helping them out of the goodness of their heart. It's purely selfish. Russia is a threat to the UK too. Look at Reform - which is a Russian backed populist right wing party.

Huh? Zelensky started the war, Zelensky is a dictator. You do memorize the lines from Trump well.

What do you mean by bot? Do you think I am an AI responding to you?

@Foodtimeisit You are trying to simplify a very complex issue. If the uk chooses to only focus on itself, it does not mean the hostile countries just leave us alone. World politics are complicated, volutile and require very careful balancing and diplomacy. Everyone needs to choose a side. And usually countries that share similar values stick together to keep away the ideologies that we don't want to live by. The US is changing its values under Trump. It is becoming a dictatorship. Just like Russia and China. So if Europe wants to keep its democracy going, it has to stick together. Closing your eyes from massive issues, does not make them go away. Unfortunately.

So, anyone shouldn't be able to discuss their point of view if it's different to you? I think US needs to liberate UK first and get us our freedom of speech back.

Why did you need to mention that Ukraine is not in the UE then? How was it relevant in the context of my post?
And how do you know Ukraine would never help UK citizens? Did your crystal ball tell you that?

Well, @MNHQ will happily disprove your comments.

Nice try though.

Offering a different opinion isnt a crime.

I wonder if I could freely speak my mind in say, Ukraine if I declined to be a conscript for Zelenskys war?

Hmmm....

Zelensky offered to stand down last week. That’s not usual behaviour for a dictator. Also, how did he start the war?

@juldan

independent Ukraine is crucial to preserving the independence of other European countries.

why though ?

This is something Zelensky says when he come around asking for support.

I don’t blame him, but I don’t see how it could be remotely true.

I've not read the thread, I'm not a bot, Alfred burnt cakes in fact!!

I seem to have an outlier view on here, I don't support putin at all, I have strong feelings of hate for the man.
I'm not a trump fan either.
However I think the team around trump have come up with a plan to try and out fox putin and zelensky isn't playing ball because he wants putin punished.

Unfortunately to punish putin and I'd dearly like him punished, would kick off all sorts of nasty stuff. Eg what if putin uses a small tactical nuke what do we do then?

Use one back?

What if he used gasses like Syria? Sanction him more?
He has nuclear weapons.

Trump said he has to maintain cordial relation with putin to try and find a way through.
There will be some cross party support here and people working in back office roles feeding in information they have tried to come up with a way to stop this.

And do some tactical moves to get more of a USA steak into Ukraine. Biden was predictable and straight. Trump is emotionally unpredictable and I think that worries putin.

We are all up against the land of chess players and m
Kgb agents planning every move. Trump is a wild card in charge of the button.

I think that works in our favour collectively.
Let's use it!
Box putin in.
People get confused over how they want putin punished.
He's not going to be, like this with USA taking the entire world to the brink with nukes forcing alliance with our enemies.

Loosing all o
Possibility of Ukraine will be punishment. I also don't believe for one second that if trump went for us, the USA wouldn't assist and they have said they would.Quite understandibly going back to Obama they just want Europe to tool up and step up.
They are playing to a bigger audience here.

Sorry I meant to say NATO is not as reliable with the US in it. I would actually rely on other NATO members because the have proven to be trustworthy.
The US not so much.
I am also scared about the enemies from within, the Russian cyber misinformation campaign is one of the strongest in world. Even the US has given up on it and NATO doesn't even care. Same with the underwater cable cutting. You don't have to put military boots on the ground if the public votes for a party with Russian ties.

If you cant understand the context and relevance, I am not here to educate you.

Very clear what I wrote - its not cryptic. Thanks.

And as for Ukraine ever helping the UK - LMAO - like a promise from a liar!

It’s precisely because Trump is withdrawing financial aid that Europe has to offer more.