To think Britain should have nothing to do with this war

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After yesterday's news, Britain shouldn't be the one funding war as USA has said they are out now. There's no chance Britain can fight this war alone with Ukraine against Russia.
Since this war started, our life has only become miserable with CoL increase.
AIBU to think we shouldn't have anything to do this war and we should fix our own problems first before giving away our tax money?

100 percent. Putin wants to hurry along a deal because his army is weaker from all the sustained fighting. With Ukraine out of the way, he can expand his horizons to other countries. And unlike WWII, the Americans will just watch it happen.

I don’t think we are war hungry just realistic. There’s a reason we are not all speaking German,Russian or Chinese now.

It’s important that the right decisions are now made by other world leaders. The US can choose to bail if they wish, but there is still plenty of support for Ukraine that can be utilised without robbing them blind.

Former Conservative MP and British Attorney General Dominic Grieve:

And exactly what pressure do you think will work?

Honestly, you are coming across as completely gullible naive. Putin WANTS war. He wants to be President not of Russia, but of the USSR. If he gets Ukraine, which countries will then come under into his sights? All of them.

Blimey op - are you really that ill educated that you don’t understand the ramifications of appeasing Putin and the wider issues that this would create?

Nope. We need to stand up for what is right.

Even if Putin did want to rule over a vast empire, that's not feasible and his generals must know it. Putin has survived one attempted coup d'état since the start of the war, and it may not be the last.

Because once they've completed their takeover of Ukraine, the Ukrainians become canon fodder alongside the North Koreans who are already fighting on Putin's behalf.

He wants to go back to the days of the Russian Empire.

And who's going to keep the Ukrainian cannon fodder subjugated? Putin doesn't want to draft Russians and he doesn't have an infinite number of volunteers.

I'm not sure we have the military kit, hence the problem, and requests for US security

With the conscripts he gets from Ukraine and once he's successful who knows who will flock to his banner, he's already got troops from North Korea

Hitler managed it so I'm sure if push comes to shove Putin will too.

You're not listening. An empire needs to be ruled from the centre. How will this be done without conscripting Russians? If Putin could do this without risking his own position, he would already have done so.

Allies join as war unfolds. I'm sure Belarus would join the fray for starters.

May I remind you...

Why when anyone suggests x action they refer back to history and auto assume that if we did x then it would be the same ?

just because events are similar or a certain outcome or proposed plan does not mean the rest will be the same

Russia, Iran and China are on the same land mass as Europe. Time will allow Russia to rebuild.

So true. And Hitler only wanted Czechoslovakia. If only we had just let him have it.
Oh, wait a minute… 😮

For those who beat the war drums, tell me what exactly is the preferred endgame?

Do you truly believe that throwing wave after wave of soldiers into the inferno will suddenly make Putin bow his head?

Unless you’re ready to turn the key and bathe the world in nuclear fire, this war doesn’t end with a glorious charge it ends in exhaustion, in rubble, in a battlefield where victory tastes as bitter as defeat.

Yes, I understand the desire for Ukraine to triumph. Its certainly a righteous cause, But tell me have you ever seen a kingdom rise from ashes?

Or does history teach us that when the dust settles, it’s the vultures who feast?

You may claim victory in the end, but when the cities are smouldering ruins and the streets are paved with ghosts, what exactly have you won?

So I ask you how many of you, sitting in your comfortable homes, would still cheer for war if the price was watching Europe burn?

If the choice is between strategy and self-destruction, then only fools choose fire

Well USA will not be putting pressure on Ukraine for a peacefire - USA want money for this deal.

USA and UK, Russia gave assurance that Ukraine could get rid of its nuclear weapons and they would make sure they weren't invaded

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

The same land mass as Russia... what's your point? You don't appear to be making any sense.

What’s the phrase? Something about those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past?