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No RSVP = No Food

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itsmeits · 26/02/2025 20:44

Not the first bday party I've ever hosted for my kids but not many like this one left. Youngest turned 8 and had a bouncy castle party at local leisure centre. Up to 40 children.
Sent out invites 3 weeks in advance (due to party on Sunday after school holidays) asking for RSVP for the Sunday after they broke up. Week before party. 22 sent to school/after school club/ after school activities + 8 cousins were a defo yes.

Several got back to me that day confirming others in during the first week. Fab 👌 9 in all.
Sent a second invite to the 13 who hadn't RSVP'ed on the following Wed asking for an RSVP ASAP due to food allergies in the family and I was doing individual lunch boxes for each child and would like to make sure they had the perfect party lunch box.
I also put on the invites that once I got an RSVP I would provide food options for their party food box - this was put on both invites - NO RSVP = NO Food Provided.
6 more got in contact.
15 confirmed school
I provided food for 6 other siblings of parents that asked if they could come also due to childcare/non drivers and the travel time on PT. No issue with this - My DP worked shifts when mine where babies - sometimes I was that parent that asked! Or it wouldn't happen with travel logistics.
I had no contact details for the other 7. Due to full time work, I don't know the mums to grab them.
DD best friends mum did speak to one for me when shopping in the hols who text apologised and confirmed, they were coming. 2 more text, apologised said they had just found invite and could child still attend. Again said yes and let them pick food.

I now had 18 from school confirmed + 6 siblings and 8 family. Happy days.

Sunday (the party) I did the 32 Boxes and set up the party you guest it 2 extra rock up from school. Both Mums didn't stay were late dropped kids at door pointed over and ran. Children weren't fed. Mums were not happy when children told them when they Collected them - 15 mins late may I add.
I have held over 25 childrens parties over the years. Parents have not show up to expensive laser quest/ soft play/ bowling/ crazy golf/ escape rooms. Even with an RSVP people haven't shown. Grabbed 2 random kids at the later quest one to join no to lose out - still chat to the mum to this day.

One of the school mums I have known for 10+ years couldn't believe I said it and went through with it and didn't provide extra on the off chance. DD BF mum thinks it's hilarious and said she's doing same May!

It wasn't a buffet it was tailored boxes due to allergies - I am not putting my neice at risk. It also cost me less than a buffet doing the boxes for everyone. Also much less waste.

YABU - Should have done extra regardless, on the off chance
YANBU - Warning was given on invites, they turned up so mush have read it!

OP posts:
IamnotwhouthinkIam · 01/03/2025 13:10

YANBU. But did the kids whose parents didn’t bother to RSVP still get the party bags with a cupcake in? From a kids perspective that’s probably the only “food” they really cared about anyway (unless the food in the lunch boxes was stuff like crisps or chips/other junk). I agree they arent going to starve in the couple of hours till they go home and more and more people are trying to avoid waste now/plus the allergy issue.

itsmeits · 01/03/2025 13:10

IDoWhateverItTakes · 01/03/2025 12:50

Bullshit

She looks like someone with firm expectations and boundaries laid out, and provided reminders as well.

I think the mums are the entitled cheapskates. Bet they didn't even bring gifts.

You gessed it or a card 🤔

OP posts:
Boysnme · 01/03/2025 13:11

itsmeits · 01/03/2025 12:47

I have done this in the past.
But then have 5/6 extras show 🙊 not enough spares as Ive done 3/4🤐

This year I thought sod it not doing it.
Hope your little one had a great bday 🎂

and presumably then you had to scrabble about trying to make 3/4 spares into 5/6 so the little darlings still got less than the others.

Really hate that some parents think their time is worth more than others and can’t be arsed to reply.

itsmeits · 01/03/2025 13:13

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 01/03/2025 13:10

YANBU. But did the kids whose parents didn’t bother to RSVP still get the party bags with a cupcake in? From a kids perspective that’s probably the only “food” they really cared about anyway (unless the food in the lunch boxes was stuff like crisps or chips/other junk). I agree they arent going to starve in the couple of hours till they go home and more and more people are trying to avoid waste now/plus the allergy issue.

No party bags where made or given out at this party - just cupcakes with a napkin when leaving.

OP posts:
itsmeits · 01/03/2025 13:18

Boysnme · 01/03/2025 13:11

and presumably then you had to scrabble about trying to make 3/4 spares into 5/6 so the little darlings still got less than the others.

Really hate that some parents think their time is worth more than others and can’t be arsed to reply.

Yep dipping in to the older 'helpers bags' i.e. my older children's friends.

Every year since then if it's been at home I've had the local ice cream man come and do an ice cream for them at the end.
He wasn't avaliable for the party this time so I did cupcakes.

OP posts:
SouthLondonMum22 · 01/03/2025 13:24

HamSpray · 01/03/2025 12:34

Because it’s pretty much par for the course at children’s birthdays for parents not to RSVP but for extra children, or the occasional sibling, to appear anyway. Outside the context of the strictly limited numbers involved in some specific activities, or afternoon tea at Claridges, it wouldn’t occur to me not to provide enough food for a few extras.

It isn't par for the course when it is made very clear on the invitation if you don't RSVP then there will be no food for your child.

The parents dropped their child off knowing full well it would mean their children wouldn't have any food. That's on them, not OP.

Mumofferal3 · 01/03/2025 13:27

Crankyaboutfood · 26/02/2025 21:02

kids suffered because of flakey parents. did you tell the parents when they were dropped off that there would be no food. you are absolutely right in your annoyance, but a little bit of extra food would have gone a long way

Absolutely not OP fault.
Couldn't warn as the free loader parents dropped and dashed. Extra food isn't just a waste but with boxes is a logistical nightmare. Been there done that.
OP let the freeloaders moan, you gave ample warning.

Mumofferal3 · 01/03/2025 13:29

itsmeits · 26/02/2025 21:12

@Crankyaboutfood I would have if I'd seen them. It's a local hot-spot for bday parties - the kids know where they are going. Mums didn't stop, didn't say hi, kids basically appeared via the door into sports hall
One mum (she picked up both late) tried to complain, while im carpark, I just said 'party finished over 20 mins ago now I'm running late' and walked off.

Well done for walking away, not sure I'd have the control.

Noodles1234 · 01/03/2025 13:30

youre right, how many do you over cater for which could very well end up as waste? Yes of course we could all do that, but in reality you go with the information you’ve got.

I had over catered for and it still has never covered the extra. My record is 20 invites, 15 rsvps, catered for 25 and 46 turned up…
parents must have known they’ve dropped the ball to not even have the decency to hand over and thank the parent / then turn up late for pick up.

I have had this and had 14 extra turn up, eat food and walk out with party bags (that yes I had made 8 extra), these went and the extra kids grabbed extra bags for their brothers and sisters. Actual invited kids had no bags and I had angry parents to handle. I don’t do full class parties anymore each year there was some CF.

MyDeftDuck · 01/03/2025 13:32

I think that was a brilliant idea to cater individually to suit dietary needs and to keep costs down.
Damn rude of anyone to not RSVP despite being asked more than once and then to bitch about it when their kid didn't get fed.......tough!

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 01/03/2025 13:34

it is made very clear on the invitation if you don't RSVP then there will be no food for your child.
The parents dropped their child off knowing full well it would mean their children wouldn't have any food. That's on them, not OP.

Actually, the parents wouldn't have known there'd be no food as they hadn't RSVP'd because they've come to expect that like the martyr mums posting here, the party-thrower would automatically provide extra with the potential waste and unnecessary expense that would entail.

If more mums said no RSVP no food, it would soon be understood there really wouldn't be any food.

As for the two extras whose mums dropped & dashed, OP gave them drinks and also a cupcake at the end. I'd bet their mums are habitual non-responders therefore maybe their children will nag them to respond so they'll get fed next time!

itsmeits · 01/03/2025 13:42

Noodles1234 · 01/03/2025 13:30

youre right, how many do you over cater for which could very well end up as waste? Yes of course we could all do that, but in reality you go with the information you’ve got.

I had over catered for and it still has never covered the extra. My record is 20 invites, 15 rsvps, catered for 25 and 46 turned up…
parents must have known they’ve dropped the ball to not even have the decency to hand over and thank the parent / then turn up late for pick up.

I have had this and had 14 extra turn up, eat food and walk out with party bags (that yes I had made 8 extra), these went and the extra kids grabbed extra bags for their brothers and sisters. Actual invited kids had no bags and I had angry parents to handle. I don’t do full class parties anymore each year there was some CF.

Wow,
That takes the biscuit completely. I've had gatecrashing, no shows but never that amount.

I'm taking the advise of a few PP on here (can't believe I hadn't thought of it, it's genius)

Next year there will be a date and time with for location please RSVP. I know its still not fool proof as parents talk, but then if they turn up it's blatantly taking the Mick. Although my son is up for playing bouncer and saying not on the guest list go away.

OP posts:
SouthLondonMum22 · 01/03/2025 13:44

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 01/03/2025 13:34

it is made very clear on the invitation if you don't RSVP then there will be no food for your child.
The parents dropped their child off knowing full well it would mean their children wouldn't have any food. That's on them, not OP.

Actually, the parents wouldn't have known there'd be no food as they hadn't RSVP'd because they've come to expect that like the martyr mums posting here, the party-thrower would automatically provide extra with the potential waste and unnecessary expense that would entail.

If more mums said no RSVP no food, it would soon be understood there really wouldn't be any food.

As for the two extras whose mums dropped & dashed, OP gave them drinks and also a cupcake at the end. I'd bet their mums are habitual non-responders therefore maybe their children will nag them to respond so they'll get fed next time!

That's fair. I imagine they were shocked when OP actually went through with it.

I agree that more people should be like OP and refuse to enable such CF behaviour.

UndermyShoeJoe · 01/03/2025 13:47

More than likely most of the parents who know about this would agree agree with op thinking it’s about time those pair of cheeky fuckers finally learned but didn’t have the gusto to actually do it themselves.

We don’t host parties where I make the food (ice skating package and stuff) these days so it’s always a case of if the child doesn’t rsvp they just anit getting into the venue let alone fed.

But maybe it should become a standard line, lack of response will mean no place or food.

Not that it should have to be because not responding should be understood as not coming also rude for not being arsed to even say “Thank you for the invite but Thomas is busy that day hope Olivia had a great day x”

Waterballoons · 01/03/2025 13:49

Porcuporpoise · 01/03/2025 12:30

No she doesn't? Why would you have spares, in case you feel like feeding a few random passers by?

It’s just standard professional practice - anything you organise, you do contingency planning

itsmeits · 01/03/2025 13:58

Waterballoons · 01/03/2025 13:49

It’s just standard professional practice - anything you organise, you do contingency planning

Parents were told there was no contingency plan in place. It said so on the invite

OP posts:
MummaMummaMumma · 01/03/2025 13:59

My son recently had a party.
Kids had lunch and snacks within their party gift bags, as no options for buffet.
Party bags were expensive!! (My choice, I know)
I made 2 extra full party bags up, including food, then a 3rd with just the food. Just incase.
Of course, 4 kids who hadn't RSVPd turned up.
Last 2 parents who arrived were absolutely livid.

Willwetalk · 01/03/2025 14:00

itsmeits · 01/03/2025 12:16

Thank you in my house that would be a ham butty with mayo and cucumber, on white or brown bread.
This can be given to Halal children, a child with an egg allergy or one that is gluten free. Not to mention I'd also put dairy on it with the butter.
If it was done with cheese the butter/bread could still be an issue.

Vegetarian?

Dinomum79 · 01/03/2025 14:05

I agree you were within your rights and gave fair warning but I would have felt terrible having kids at a party and not feeding them. The parents were completely in the wrong but it wasn’t the 7/8 yo kids fault x

Waterballoons · 01/03/2025 14:05

itsmeits · 01/03/2025 12:31

Why?

Yes I was a cheapskate, I had a tight budget - also places to be.

It’s your child that’s going to be demonised as having that kind of mum 🤷‍♀️ If you’re fine with that, crack on

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 01/03/2025 14:06

Noodles1234 · 01/03/2025 13:30

youre right, how many do you over cater for which could very well end up as waste? Yes of course we could all do that, but in reality you go with the information you’ve got.

I had over catered for and it still has never covered the extra. My record is 20 invites, 15 rsvps, catered for 25 and 46 turned up…
parents must have known they’ve dropped the ball to not even have the decency to hand over and thank the parent / then turn up late for pick up.

I have had this and had 14 extra turn up, eat food and walk out with party bags (that yes I had made 8 extra), these went and the extra kids grabbed extra bags for their brothers and sisters. Actual invited kids had no bags and I had angry parents to handle. I don’t do full class parties anymore each year there was some CF.

That's just it, isn't it? You go to a lot of effort and expense to entertain the children and then...

You get complaints from those who turn up unannounced at the last minute that there isn't any food for them;

You get complaints from those who did reply and then come, because there aren't enough food/party bags left for them - and if the kids brought up by entitled CFs were diving in to the table of party bags and thinking who else they could take extras for, who knows that they wouldn't have just taken however many you put out anyway? CFs are adept at seeing large quantities of things that have been bought with lots of people in mind or to stock up to last for a long time and thinking "there are loads; let's fill our boots";

And if you go to huge expense and get loads and loads of extras for all and every scenario, you'll be complained about and blamed for wasting so much food and criticised for not keeping a proper sense of proportion.

I also think it's very unfair the people saying that OP had budgeted for X amount of lunches and so shouldn't be mean and should provide X amount. When money is tight, stretching limited available funds to feed more people is entirely different from doing the same in order to feed a bin.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/03/2025 14:06

Waterballoons · 01/03/2025 13:49

It’s just standard professional practice - anything you organise, you do contingency planning

It's a birthday party, not an international conference. Contingency planning was chasing up non-responses and making it clear on the invitations (that everyone who attended must have read to know the date/time/venue) that no RSVP meant no food.

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/03/2025 14:08

Waterballoons · 01/03/2025 14:05

It’s your child that’s going to be demonised as having that kind of mum 🤷‍♀️ If you’re fine with that, crack on

Edited

It won't be OP's child. It will be the children who turn up to parties unnanounced, without so much as a card and then aren't collected until late after.

If I was OP, I certainly wouldn't be inviting them to a party again.

Waterballoons · 01/03/2025 14:08

thepariscrimefiles · 01/03/2025 14:06

It's a birthday party, not an international conference. Contingency planning was chasing up non-responses and making it clear on the invitations (that everyone who attended must have read to know the date/time/venue) that no RSVP meant no food.

I guess some people do everything well, others not so much 🤷‍♀️

Waterballoons · 01/03/2025 14:09

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/03/2025 14:08

It won't be OP's child. It will be the children who turn up to parties unnanounced, without so much as a card and then aren't collected until late after.

If I was OP, I certainly wouldn't be inviting them to a party again.

I haven’t been to parties where that happens