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to think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use?

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nameey · 22/02/2025 11:12

Just read that the 30 year old singer Avery has been diagnosed with osteoporosis due to Ozempic use. Looks like this could be the start of many conditions coming out.

I know Ozempic is incredibly helpful for a lot of people but losing weight but then having osteoporosis does not seem worth it.

AIBU?

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KrankyKumquat · 24/02/2025 12:37

Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 12:19

I respect your opinion but I don't think the morning after pill or viagra has the same potentially serious side effects for people using them who don't actually need them.

I'm not by the way suggesting that the customers would have to pay more for in person consultations, more that the private prescribers could offer it for the initial consultation seeing as they are making an awful lot of money from selling these drugs. Maybe it would be more ethnical if they knew they were prescribing it only to people who met the criteria? Definitely don't want to make things harder for obese people for no good reason.

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As I know many people respect what The Daily Mail says:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13186631/Erection-pills-Viagra-Cialis-linked-200-deaths.html

SwingTheMonkey · 24/02/2025 12:39

Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 12:37

Absolutely agree, it’s too triggering for some people so normal debate goes out the window.

Going to take the dog out for a walk in the fresh air now & leaving my mobile behind! 😀

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It’s just so hard to have a debate with someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Tulipsandaffodils · 24/02/2025 12:42

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Arraminta · 24/02/2025 12:43

nameey · 24/02/2025 12:24

@Twiglets1 It seems impossible here to have a discussion about the potential side effects of WLI because of the people who are taking them who are so adamant in their views. Any discussion is shut down and the accusations start - saying people are jealous and spiteful and want overweight people taking them to die. None of which are true.

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We can't have a debate or discussion with you about WLI because you don't appear to know what you're talking about? Your debate is reliant on 'the feelz' and referencing The Daily Fail.

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HebeMumsnet · 24/02/2025 12:53

Afternoon, everyone. This thread seems to be getting a bit derailed by posts that are getting a bit personal. We're happy for people to disagree in discussions like this but we think it's possible to disagree while remaining civil, or simply scrolling past if not. Thanks.

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nameey · 24/02/2025 13:06

Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 12:37

Absolutely agree, it’s too triggering for some people so normal debate goes out the window.

Going to take the dog out for a walk in the fresh air now & leaving my mobile behind! 😀

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Have a great walk ❤

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janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 13:07

Smallsalt · 23/02/2025 09:45

Or, if you don't approve of them them, think they are dangerous don't take them. Simple.

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who am I to approve?

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nameey · 24/02/2025 13:07

Arraminta · 24/02/2025 12:43

We can't have a debate or discussion with you about WLI because you don't appear to know what you're talking about? Your debate is reliant on 'the feelz' and referencing The Daily Fail.

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I never referenced the Daily Fail. Please look back at my posts.

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janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 13:07

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 09:29

I mean, that's not even slightly evidenced by this thread. It's something you've made up and decided to believe.

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here we go ...

janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 13:08

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 09:34

@janeavrilavril if people put forward negative things that are untrue and without evidence then of course people will challenge those statements. The kind of negative nonsense that's all over this thread gets repeated each time one of these "concerned" posters starts a thread about it. Usually after another sensationalist Mail article.

and again ... case in point ... is there another one ...

janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 13:09

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 09:37

We welcome anything negative, but it needs to be factual not nonsense. People will challenge bullshit.

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oh indeed there is 😅

janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 13:13

There is a trade-off to every single drug you take.

XWKD · 24/02/2025 13:42

nameey · 24/02/2025 12:24

@Twiglets1 It seems impossible here to have a discussion about the potential side effects of WLI because of the people who are taking them who are so adamant in their views. Any discussion is shut down and the accusations start - saying people are jealous and spiteful and want overweight people taking them to die. None of which are true.

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What makes you think that those who disagree with you are taking Ozempic or similar?

Rowena191 · 24/02/2025 14:23

For in person checks, remember people are prepared to pay hundreds of pounds per month for these medications. It surely couldn't cost too much for a 10-minute in person appointment at a local pharmacy to present photo ID, and be weighed and measured by a doctor, nurse or pharmacist - I'm thinking someone with professional qualifications, not the 16-year-old Saturday jobber. Pharmacies did an excellent job of delivering COVID jabs so they can handle in person appointments.

SilenceInside · 24/02/2025 14:31

@Rowena191 "remember people are prepared to pay hundreds of pounds per month for these medications." No, people don't pay hundreds of pounds per month, it is somewhere around 90 to 150, up to around 180 to 200ish for the highest doses, per month. So around £25 to £50 per week.

Online-only pharmacies didn't deliver COVID vaccinations. Many of the online pharmacies don't have premises that are open to the public. Video consults are a much more sensible way of delivering a face to face consult, if that's how pharmacies choose to independently verify the information the patient has told them.

Lampzade · 24/02/2025 14:49

nameey · 24/02/2025 12:24

@Twiglets1 It seems impossible here to have a discussion about the potential side effects of WLI because of the people who are taking them who are so adamant in their views. Any discussion is shut down and the accusations start - saying people are jealous and spiteful and want overweight people taking them to die. None of which are true.

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I think posters are challenging the misinformation and disinformation about the effects of these injections
The thread opened with a discussion about the negative side effects of the WLI and referenced a singer who had suffered from bone loss as a result of taking ozempic .
However, the fact that this young lady had a long term eating disorder and was misusing the injections was conveniently left out
Therefore , you can’t blame some posters for thinking that there are those with their own agenda .
I am not on weight loss injections but I do notice that some posters on MN have seemingly made it their mission to dissuade people from using them.
I do believe that it is due to envy/ jealousy .

Arraminta · 24/02/2025 15:07

Lampzade · 24/02/2025 14:49

I think posters are challenging the misinformation and disinformation about the effects of these injections
The thread opened with a discussion about the negative side effects of the WLI and referenced a singer who had suffered from bone loss as a result of taking ozempic .
However, the fact that this young lady had a long term eating disorder and was misusing the injections was conveniently left out
Therefore , you can’t blame some posters for thinking that there are those with their own agenda .
I am not on weight loss injections but I do notice that some posters on MN have seemingly made it their mission to dissuade people from using them.
I do believe that it is due to envy/ jealousy .

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I agree. I am all for a very frank and open debate about Mounjaro, but only if we are speaking about people's personal, direct experience or medically proven evidence and statistics.

However, I have zero interest into listening to people's uninformed, poorly articulated scaremongering about Mounjaro.

janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 15:12

SilenceInside · 24/02/2025 14:31

@Rowena191 "remember people are prepared to pay hundreds of pounds per month for these medications." No, people don't pay hundreds of pounds per month, it is somewhere around 90 to 150, up to around 180 to 200ish for the highest doses, per month. So around £25 to £50 per week.

Online-only pharmacies didn't deliver COVID vaccinations. Many of the online pharmacies don't have premises that are open to the public. Video consults are a much more sensible way of delivering a face to face consult, if that's how pharmacies choose to independently verify the information the patient has told them.

video consults are not sensible for any condition, never have been and a dreadful legacy of covid. People do pay hundreds of pounds per month, again the usual egocentric bias and cult like thinking.

SilenceInside · 24/02/2025 15:30

@janeavrilavril

"video consults are not sensible for any condition, never have been and a dreadful legacy of covid. People do pay hundreds of pounds per month"

Can you say why video consults are not sensible?

There may be a handful of people who are unable to do price comparisons or who are very wealthy who pay hundreds per month. But the very large majority are paying between 100 and 200 pounds per month. Every single person who is on the support threads on this site who has discussed costs is paying in the range I quote. Because that's what it costs. You don't have to take my word for it, you can easily look up the price comparison sites yourself if you want to independently check it.

janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 16:18

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LionME · 24/02/2025 16:29

janeavrilavril · 24/02/2025 15:12

video consults are not sensible for any condition, never have been and a dreadful legacy of covid. People do pay hundreds of pounds per month, again the usual egocentric bias and cult like thinking.

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And yet people like myself are 100% relying on those video consultations.
Because when you’re housebound, being able to see someone from your home, is life saving. Let alone being able to see a specialist privately (that is usually far away). I have counselling and see my cardiologist like that. And my cardiologist is even able to do most of the tests he needs that way too.

But carry on thinking that online consultation are not sensible in ANY situation…. Ableist thinking at its finest.

SilenceInside · 24/02/2025 16:37

Ok @janeavrilavril I was asking in relation to a consult to access weight loss injections, not in general. Could you maybe reply without being so weird and rude to me? Ta.

Caffeineneedednow · 24/02/2025 19:14

Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 12:37

Absolutely agree, it’s too triggering for some people so normal debate goes out the window.

Going to take the dog out for a walk in the fresh air now & leaving my mobile behind! 😀

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Debate requires a question. What is your question?

I am happy to provide answers and have a debate

Caffeineneedednow · 24/02/2025 19:39

Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 12:19

I respect your opinion but I don't think the morning after pill or viagra has the same potentially serious side effects for people using them who don't actually need them.

I'm not by the way suggesting that the customers would have to pay more for in person consultations, more that the private prescribers could offer it for the initial consultation seeing as they are making an awful lot of money from selling these drugs. Maybe it would be more ethnical if they knew they were prescribing it only to people who met the criteria? Definitely don't want to make things harder for obese people for no good reason.

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I am really intrigued as to why you think the morning after pill and viagra are safer?

Here's the nhs website on sildenafil ( the drug often sold as viagra). If you scroll to the bottom there are a description of the 1 in 1000 complications that require you to call an ambulance immediately.
https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/sildenafil-viagra/side-effects-of-sildenafil/

Alot of this comes down to a perception of what we think deserves to be treated. We treat a headache with Ibuprofen ( kills thousands of people a year), we treat erectile dysfunction with viagra ( kills thousands with the nhs website linking reasons to immediately get emergency care).

So I am interested why these drugs are perceived as dangerous but not the others mentioned. Is it perhaps that obesity is not perceived as a real disease that requires effective treatment?

lettyraines · 24/02/2025 22:13

Caffeineneedednow · 24/02/2025 19:39

I am really intrigued as to why you think the morning after pill and viagra are safer?

Here's the nhs website on sildenafil ( the drug often sold as viagra). If you scroll to the bottom there are a description of the 1 in 1000 complications that require you to call an ambulance immediately.
https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/sildenafil-viagra/side-effects-of-sildenafil/

Alot of this comes down to a perception of what we think deserves to be treated. We treat a headache with Ibuprofen ( kills thousands of people a year), we treat erectile dysfunction with viagra ( kills thousands with the nhs website linking reasons to immediately get emergency care).

So I am interested why these drugs are perceived as dangerous but not the others mentioned. Is it perhaps that obesity is not perceived as a real disease that requires effective treatment?

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Gosh, a weak browse of the wiki entry on viagra/siildenafil would have told you that these serious effects were not uncovered during clinical trials and only appeared once the drug was used by multimillions during post-marketing surveillance... Now what does that remind me of?