Trans men are women according to Gender Critical Movement

[ThisPinkWyvern]

Under Trump's transgender policy, which echoes the ideology of the Gender Critical Movement, trans women are men and trans men are women. This view denies and rejects as worthless and baseless the lived experience of millions of men and women in the US who identify as trans. As a result of having their lived experience of themself ignored and denied by law, millions of trans men as well as trans women are now experiencing deep psychological trauma and living in abject fear and terror in the US. Many are trying to leave the country because they are so terrified.

The almost total silence of the Gender Critical Movement and it's supporters about the effect that it's ideology has had on those hundreds of thousand of women who self identify as men is deafening.It's whole argument about banning trans women from female public toilets and other ' women only spaces' is based on the argument that denying trans women the right to access these spaces is needed to protect the safety of women and girls. Given the fear, terror and trauma that hundreds of thousands of women( trans men) are now experiencing in the US, as a result of the government putting into practise Gender Critical Movement ideology, the sense of safety and well-being of hundreds of thousands of women has been devastated. This makes the infinitesimally small number of cases where women have been or ever would be assaulted by a trans woman in a women only space pale into insignificance by comparison.

In short, the Gender Critical Movement is directly responsible for harming the well being of hundreds of thousands of WOMEN according to it's own ideology.The damage done by implementing it's ideology makes a sickening mockery of it's claim that it's ideology protects the safety of women and girls.

When the number of men( trans women) in the US who are now living in fear and terror in the US is taken into account as well, the Gender Critical Movement and all those who support it are directly responsible for terrorising millions of people. It is impossible to claim that we are supporting women's rights and protecting the safety of women if we support the Gender Critical Movement.

Absolutely: Boy George, Marilyn, Divine, the whole new romantic period.
Also women rocking the traditional male presentation such as Annie Lennox.
It was a much freer and healthier time.

Frogs and fish and a lady bear that looked like it had a willy

awesome…..im completely convinced

I would have hoped that equitable solutions would have been found and well ingrained. And that there would have been a realistic approach to treatments too.

Sadly, that didn’t happen.

LOL at basic reality being branded a ‘movement’ and ‘ideology’.

hopefully these people can seek some psychological support for their mental health conditions, which are the cause of their suffering.

OP don’t be silly goose.

oh ffs

humans are MAMMALS and in mammals sex is one of the true binaries

mammals do not change sex

we are not fish nor amphibians, we are MAMMALS

and sex is biological, encoded into every cell in our bodies, it is no behaviour

"Some species have both male and female characteristics and sexual organs. (As do some humans)"

that is an absolutely extraordinary statement, not backed up in your link

If you think there is an example of a human hermaphrodite then it is on YOU to prove that extraordinary statement

it would be vanishingly rare

and here, again we have another TRA strawman / talking point

bring up examples from other species where sex is different to mammals, pretend it means mammalian sex is some kind of continuum to support trans ideology

the vast vast majority of "trans" people do not have DSDs, they are normal male or female

chromosome testing for DSD is not part of identifying trans people, the only thing used to id trans is their say so

It doesn’t cause any harm… except when it does.

surf

but there was also a lady bear that looked like it might have had a willy!!!!

facts mate, can’t argue with facts 😀

’Lived’ experience is just a way to differentiate different types of experience, particularly between professional experience of something and ‘lived’ experience of it. I could say I have a lot of experience working with people with autism but I don’t have lived experience of it.

Talking of toilets - trans men, look and sound exactly like biological men. So, if they started using female toilets that would surely alarm women, wouldn’t it?

Can we also get some discussion on this thread about why there are over 130 genders but some extreme transgender activists only focus on 1 - male people. Occasionally 2 if they want to leverage female people with transgender identities needs to support those male people. Sometimes even non-binary people get remembered.

Why do so many extreme transgender activists ignore the 130 + other genders?

This is a nasty comment. No need for it .

What about the lived experience of women when men try to appropriate womanhood?

Trump is right to do this. Hopefully it will start putting an end to this contagious nonsense.

I know someone who is not a trans man, female but looks very masculine. She has been hounded out of women’s toilets and avoids them.

With the amount of people claiming to be trans, including a 6000% (six thousand percent) increase in schoolchildren claiming to be trans, I'd put it around 5% to 10%, more likely. Sometimes it seems like 20%. I do not buy its only 1% or less. No way in the world.

There isn’t a “gender critical ideology ” or movement we are not doing anything different just continuing knowing there are two sexes as humans have known since the beginning time

Oh just shut up.

Use the bathroom that corresponds with what's in your pants, or what was in your pants before you had bits lopped off/glued on.

Is that hard to understand?

Most of them still look obviously female. For the vanishingly rare ones who do genuinely "pass", using the men's is probably the right thing to do. They don't pose any threat to men.

Amen.

There is absolutely no such thing as a toilet or bathroom which matches your or anyone else's "gender identity", so you cannot use one.

There are only toilets and bathrooms for your sex, the opposite sex, or both sexes.

Social contagion.

Transmen rarely "look and sound like biological men". Height, musclature, gait, q angles, foot and hand size, wrist circumference are all give aways.

Some appear to pass in photos but in real life, among a mixed group they very rarely do. Women are really very good at sexing others.

Even at night, in low light, wearing full covering dark clothing. Science has proved this.

Women have developed this skill for their own protection, men ... not so much.

Did someone say ‘clownfish’? People are not clownfish.

Or bats

and girls, just train harder!!

Unlikely, as soon as she spoke she would be identified as female.

The Earth isn't flat, people can't change sex, the birds aren't surveillance drones. 🤷🏼‍♀️

YABU.

There's no idealogy in sex. Gender is the idealogy, not sex.

I'm 'Team Trump' on this particular issue.