Trans men are women according to Gender Critical Movement

[ThisPinkWyvern]

Under Trump's transgender policy, which echoes the ideology of the Gender Critical Movement, trans women are men and trans men are women. This view denies and rejects as worthless and baseless the lived experience of millions of men and women in the US who identify as trans. As a result of having their lived experience of themself ignored and denied by law, millions of trans men as well as trans women are now experiencing deep psychological trauma and living in abject fear and terror in the US. Many are trying to leave the country because they are so terrified.

The almost total silence of the Gender Critical Movement and it's supporters about the effect that it's ideology has had on those hundreds of thousand of women who self identify as men is deafening.It's whole argument about banning trans women from female public toilets and other ' women only spaces' is based on the argument that denying trans women the right to access these spaces is needed to protect the safety of women and girls. Given the fear, terror and trauma that hundreds of thousands of women( trans men) are now experiencing in the US, as a result of the government putting into practise Gender Critical Movement ideology, the sense of safety and well-being of hundreds of thousands of women has been devastated. This makes the infinitesimally small number of cases where women have been or ever would be assaulted by a trans woman in a women only space pale into insignificance by comparison.

In short, the Gender Critical Movement is directly responsible for harming the well being of hundreds of thousands of WOMEN according to it's own ideology.The damage done by implementing it's ideology makes a sickening mockery of it's claim that it's ideology protects the safety of women and girls.

When the number of men( trans women) in the US who are now living in fear and terror in the US is taken into account as well, the Gender Critical Movement and all those who support it are directly responsible for terrorising millions of people. It is impossible to claim that we are supporting women's rights and protecting the safety of women if we support the Gender Critical Movement.

You really don't get it. Its not just about being attacked. Its not just about our safety, but our privacy and dignity, too. Our HARD WON safe single sex spaces. And fair sports. These are VITAL, every bit as much as those things you list, so stop your whataboutery. Women are withdrawing from participating in life due to the toilet issue. Women on here have said they restrict liquids at work (risking a UTI) so they won't have to go to the unisex toilets. Girls at school are staying home on the days they have their period.

You are NOT LISTENING and not paying attention to how SERIOUS this is becoming and how its actually affecting women and girls health and lives.

Undoubtedly @Theeyeballsinthesky

Sigh! Has anyone been attacked or abused by a trans woman?

Specifically anyone here, or generally? Because if you’re asking generally, you need to add “this week” if you want the answer to be no.

This is why third spaces are the best option so that you as an ally can use them and give that validation that transwomen want, and those that want single sex spaces have them to use.

You forgot the rest of the sentence - “is complete and utter nonsense”.

Yep certainly is on here. But not convinced it is a majority held view. Well I disagree and find the intolerance sad and regret getting involved.

I am trying to understand the depth of feeling here as I’m struggling with the strong feelings being exhibited.

Some of us here have experience ("lived experience" if you will) of how a single trans person in an organisation can threaten truth and safeguarding for 100s of others.

I googled Buck’s height and it said 5’ 8. Don’t know if that’s correct and if it is, that’s small for a man, of course, but a fair bit taller than the transmen I know, one of whom is 5ft tall (literally).

Will abducted and sexually assaulted, like this little girl, fit your criteria?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67144375

Yes. I have been. Does that mean I get a say in single sex spaces?

By the way, why do women have to disclose personal trauma to have their needs considered ?

That's not at all small for a man.

People here have really weird ideas about body shapes and sizes

And I find the fact that you don't respect women who say no to males who insist on eroding our boundaries appalling.

To answer your question I've had the misfortune to be raped twice , by two different men.

So please explain why I should have to accept males in single sex spaces?

Because there is evidence that trans women commit sexual offences against women at at least the same rate as any other man.

Your post is really offensive to sexual assault and rape victims.

You literally don't give a fuck about how any of this impacts us, do you?

“He is not acting to benefit women.”

He is acting on the promises he made to his electorate. I doubt anyone thinks Trump would do this for any other purpose.

I’m just following suit on what seems to be a running trend on this group. Tit for tat.you are being so hypocritical considering several people have insulted me on this thread.

Intolerance for males in female only safe single sex spaces and for boys and men cheating girls and women out of fair sports is a GOOD thing.

Its truly sad that you've been brainwashed to not care about womens rights.

I don’t know why everyone is focused on telling me I’m wrong rather than the issue at hand. Yes I don’t care about toilets. Get over it

Sorry, there was a case of double murder of two women reported this week by a trans identifying male. One of the suspected victims was shown on a video by the alleged murderer apparently after she’d sustained the fatal head injuries.

5' 8" is 1 inch shorter than the overall average for men in the USA, and 2 inches shorter than the average for US Caucasian males.

LOL - you seriously think the Orange Tyrant does anything for anyone's benefit but his own (and Putin's)?

I knew after I posted “this week” that that was going to be pushing it.

I find your intolerance for women who need single sex spaces sad.

That's not at all small for a man.

People here have really weird ideas about body shapes and sizes

I would dispute the accuracy of it.

Regardless of why he's doing it, keeping biological males out of women's spaces and sports will benefit many women though.

I’m all for single sex spaces. I don’t want men in women’s toilets. I just don’t regard trans women a threat. And truly regret going on this thread as I don’t believe the things I’m being accused of at all. Nightmare!

And you know what? That’s fucking terrifying.

That’s a LOT of people who need psychological help.

Fact of the matter is, there are only biological males and biological females - any aberration to that is simply a person cosplaying as the opposite gender.

It is absolutely not normal for people to be literally mutilating their bodies and having people pandering to them, feeding in to complete and utter delusion.