Scared of what labour will do

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Is anyone else terrified of what labour will enforce. The tax on farmers. Will they means test pip? Will they tax state pension more? What else will they do and where will it all end. They ruthlessly without no care took away the winter fuel allowance. Means testing and taxing state pension would massively impact my family

I am worried too. The Tories wanted to bring in drastic changes, and it was thrown out by the courts due to them not giving enough time for consultations. Labour have said they intend to carry on with the changes.
It is all speculation for now though, until the Green Paper thing comes out. But be assured that various disability organisations and charities will be fighting it.

Somebody the other day was getting £4k a month net. Housing benefit. Part-time job, universal credit, maintenance.

Op I don't understand your posts really.. so the economy is tanked because of Brexit, wars and the Tories.... tough decisions have to be made.

So means testing winter fuel allowance - explain why wealthy pensioners need this money? When it would be better to give to poorer families?

So inheritance tax for farming - all other family businesses are subject to inheritance tax, why should farming businesses be treated differently? Also the thresholds are very high so only the huge and very very wealthy farmers will be effected by it.

Tax for pension income...again surely if you are wealthy enough to be taxed as you earn over the threshold then why shouldn't you pay tax.... And there be more money for poorer families.

Do you want poor people to get less money? Tories have cut everything with 14 years of austerity. Poor people can't be squeezed anymore. It's time the boomer generation were squeezed too!

Somebody the other day was getting £4k a month net. Housing benefit. Part-time job, universal credit, maintenance.

Maintenance isn't included in any calculations & high housing benefit will be due to high rent.

I mean is makes me made that tax payers money goes into private landlords hands via housing benefit. There should be much more social housing.

@ARealitycheck round here in beautiful bucolic south Devon, agricultural land is costing stupid money because it's pretty, it makes for lovely weekends and apparently excellent game shooting, and often delivers a handsome farmhouse too. Some of it has stayed in families for generations, but in the 25 years I have been paying attention, there have been a lot of hedge fund managers throwing their bonuses into buying property. Some have invested a lot of money into improvements, and I quite applaud their efforts. But as you say, it's valued well above its productive value.

Not everyone gets housing benefit. If you own your home, you get a short term loan to cover the interest.
Maintenance is nothing to do with the DWP, and it not counted anyway. It does not affect UC.

So, someone not claiming the housing, and not getting maintenance - look it up. It is nowhere near what you would get working in a NMW job.

Yes. I was gutted when they got in. Honestly hoping they're going to prove me wrong.

@BIossomtoes our lynchpin customers are mainly in defence. Last year, they spent less. A lot less. They pared back contracts and deferred start dates. I don't want to think about the UK's readiness to meet a real threat frankly.

But it still means that this person is getting public money to top up their income to equal somebody whose job pays £60k a year. Not on IMHO.

What do you suggest then? That they have their benefits cut? End up homeless on the street.... ?

But it still means that this person is getting public money to top up their income to equal somebody whose job pays £60k a year. Not on IMHO.

So what do you suggest?

I know. It really scares me.

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That wouldn't be my problem.

So not your problem if they stay on benefits either.

Of course it is. It's public money.

Which could be put to better use. Like defence.

So you would see people destitute and homeless, so the defence budget can be increased? It makes you wonder what we would be defending.... certainly not a compassionate society.
It would be defending the rich. Says it all, really.

That wouldn't be my problem.

Do you not thinking making lots of people homeless will increase costs in other areas? eg crime, healthcare, social services

Pensioners pay slightly less as they don't pay national insurance.

Clearly not the brightest. You put to me. Oh good another post.

so I replied. Oh good. Another post from…in response.

Yes there’s a book. You learn from reading

I looked the book up- John la Carre, a very good author of fiction. Not my taste though.

I understand now, you were offended that I disagreed with the bollocks you posted, so rather than debate and try to back up what you had written with facts (not fiction), you thought you would attack my user name instead. Very bigly, amazing debate skills there.

Personally, I prefer facts.

Keep banging those drums

Usualy Labour come in when the economy is good, them coming in when it's bad and trying to tax us to prosperity is awful. But with Reform splitting the right, I'm not sure who is going to win next time. I just hope they are economically literate.

I think the country might take a swing to the right eventually.Like Europe has.