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To think it’s my business who gets my money when I die?

180 replies

Trunksarebetter · 21/02/2025 20:05

Not really a big issue I suppose, as ultimately no one else will be able to decide for me (or argue with me when it happens!), but this has annoyed me!

I don’t have children and am very happy for it to stay that way. I was having a general discussion with my parents about retirement plans, as they’re looking to downsize now that they’re retiring. I said I’d probably do similar when I’m older to give myself a lump sum, or maybe do equity release if I decide I don’t want to move. I added that I know a lot of people are against equity release, but that it wouldn’t be the same issue for me, because it’s not as if I have children who will be expecting an inheritance.

My dad said, almost before I’d finished speaking, and in what I felt was a quite causal/dismissive way, “Well, it’ll all go to Lucy”. I said, “Sorry?” and he said, “Your house, your money; it’ll all go to Lucy when you die.”

Lucy is my niece; my brother’s only child. I love her very much and, in all likelihood, I will indeed leave her anything that happens to be left over. But I’m certainly not planning my finances with an inheritance for her in mind. She’ll get everything from her parents, plus whatever my parents leave to my brother - she certainly won’t have to rely on getting anything from me!

I said, fairly jokingly, “Er, hang on - I think that’s up to me! I might not want to leave it all to Lucy!” But my dad seemed to take it quite seriously. He was saying, “Well who else are you going to leave it to? Friends? What’s the point in that when you’re all around the same age anyway? Of course you’ll leave it to Lucy.”

I replied that I’d probably do just that, but a) it would be MY choice and there was no “of course” about it and b) that while she was welcome to anything that was left over, I wasn’t planning for there to be much, because I’m going to spend it, on me.

My dad was a bit huffy about this. He has an awful habit of getting dismissive when a discussion doesn’t go his way, and that’s what I got this time - an “Okay, fine; that’s that”, where he’ll try to shut down the conversation, but then will still throw in a “I just think that…” and goes back to his original point.

I know that it doesn’t realistically matter, as I don’t have to even tell my parents what’s in my will, and unless they outlive me, they’ll never find out. But it’s the assumption that annoys me. What if I wanted to leave the whole lot to charity? Or just plain old didn’t want someone else telling me what was happening to my money? Surely this isn’t for anyone to make assumptions about, family or otherwise?

OP posts:
PeloMom · 21/02/2025 20:58

NuffSaidSam · 21/02/2025 20:16

It's not in your post. I suspect you don't know yet. That's why I suggest you think about it. When we over react to something like this there's usually a reason why. It might be worth exploring. Or not. It doesn't concern me either way.

from what OP is saying the dad has a form of bulldozing his views and discounting/ invalidating hers. Guess that’s why she’s feeling the way she does?

NDHz · 21/02/2025 21:01

The more I think about it, the more I am annoyed on your behalf OP.

To me, it’s as if he is saying that you are just a temporary custodian and it is the family line that counts. As if you are less worthy because you don’t have kids.

Although I do wonder if @Linux20 has hit the nail on the head. That he is assuming anything you get from them would later be passed on to their grandchild. He is perhaps seeing it very much through an egotistical lense.

NuffSaidSam · 21/02/2025 21:04

Coconutter24 · 21/02/2025 20:51

It’s very obvious from OPs post that the assumption is what has annoyed her. Doesn’t sound like OP pulled him up on it but rather asked a question about his assumption.
I don’t think it’s as deep as what your thinking it is, OP got annoyed by her dad that’s it really

You'd think that would be it, but it wasn't because she then needed to start a thread to ask if she's being unreasonable (which she isn't obviously)...it seems like it cuts deeper than 'Dad made an assumption and I was annoyed'.

Sandcastles24 · 21/02/2025 21:05

Maybe your dad is now rewriting his will to leave more directly to Lucy instead of you?
it was unnecessary to start an argument over a passing remark but now he knows your position. He sounds like he has a different opinion to supporting the next generation and you are probably well provided for already too.

Beesandhoney123 · 21/02/2025 21:07

My dsis was devastated when I finally got married and had dc. She had assumed I was too old and would leave everything to her dc. She was very unreasonable tbh.

People do leave things to family though and have massive assumptions. It really annoyed me that it was assumed I'd leave everything to far flung relatives and not on ensuring a tidy amount in a will.

Lucy might accompany you on a trip somewhere you both want to go instead. Something nice instead of IHT

Mindymomo · 21/02/2025 21:07

We had a great uncle who was widowed, no DC and asked my in-laws (his nephew and wife) what they thought of him taking equity release so he could visit relatives in Australia and Canada, he was late 70’s, so it was going to be the last opportunity he had. In laws was happy for him to do whatever he wanted. He had a fabulous 8 weeks visit and after he returned he became unable to stay in his house so house was sold and he went into a care home, in laws were left a nice sum of money, that they never expected, but they were so glad he did what he did.

BIossomtoes · 21/02/2025 21:08

Why do you care? You’ll be dead.

Coconutter24 · 21/02/2025 21:11

NuffSaidSam · 21/02/2025 21:04

You'd think that would be it, but it wasn't because she then needed to start a thread to ask if she's being unreasonable (which she isn't obviously)...it seems like it cuts deeper than 'Dad made an assumption and I was annoyed'.

People get annoyed and vent, Op maybe started the thread to vent and get clarity on if she’s being unreasonable but her first paragraph lets us know she knows she’s not being unreasonable. Maybe started the thread for the simple reason she doesn’t want to discuss this in real life with anyone

Createausername1970 · 21/02/2025 21:12

I find the best way to deal with this type of comment is to smile and agree, and move on.

Of course you can leave your money to whoever you want to, it's no-one else's business and your dad was wrong to presume. But I wouldn't bother to correct him.

Trunksarebetter · 21/02/2025 21:14

NuffSaidSam · 21/02/2025 20:40

Sure, but why did your dad making a reasonable (albeit incorrect) assumption in passing irk you to the extent that it did? That's what I'd be asking myself in this situation.

You could have just rolled your eyes and let it pass, but you had to pull him up on it, continue on a conversation and then start a thread about it. It's obviously pulled on something more than 'I don't like people making assumptions'.

Why has it “obviously” done this? What is it you’re trying to imply?

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ExercicenformedeZ · 21/02/2025 21:15

ZenNudist · 21/02/2025 20:44

I dont think youre expected to leave a specific inheritance for Lucy. Just whatever is left. A charitable donation would be reasonable too.

I really hope my siblings and siblings in law leave inheritance to my dc as they are the only children in our family. I don't expect them to scrimp to give an inheritance, but it would be nice to pass what little there is down to make their lives easier.

I also hope it will come very late in DS life as its nicer to have aunts and uncles living well and spending Inheritance with equity release .

I do think equity release is a bit dodgy. What if you live a long time and need care? I'd rather have my equity to fund a nicer nursing home because the council ones are GRIM.

Wow, you sound entitled. You can hope, but you can't expect.

Trunksarebetter · 21/02/2025 21:15

Whattodo2024 · 21/02/2025 20:43

It’s your decision but you made a simple conversation awkward when there was no need

It wouldn’t have been awkward if he’d just accepted my money is mine and that I decide what happens to it.

OP posts:
Randomer75 · 21/02/2025 21:15

Trunksarebetter · 21/02/2025 20:37

But it’s the assumption that annoys me. Surely this isn’t for anyone to make assumptions about, family or otherwise?

For the avoidance of doubt, @NuffSaidSam, this is what has “pinched” me.

I think it’s probably a bit more subtle than that. He is Lucy’s GF, knows you love her, and yet… you’re holding back.

I wonder if it isn’t so much about the money but about you saying something that gives his understanding of how things are a bit of a knock. So he’ll be wondering what/who is this other part of your life that merits Lucy being “short changed” for.

ExercicenformedeZ · 21/02/2025 21:16

Randomer75 · 21/02/2025 21:15

I think it’s probably a bit more subtle than that. He is Lucy’s GF, knows you love her, and yet… you’re holding back.

I wonder if it isn’t so much about the money but about you saying something that gives his understanding of how things are a bit of a knock. So he’ll be wondering what/who is this other part of your life that merits Lucy being “short changed” for.

'Holding back'? I don't get it. Why should the OP leave the money to her niece?

custardpyjamas · 21/02/2025 21:18

It doesn't matter just say, yes, or probably, or whatever, no one will know and there may be little or nothing left, it doesn't sound like you are arguing about a fortune. Not worth starting a fight over.

RawBloomers · 21/02/2025 21:19

You've made your own assumptions. You've assumed that parents might find equity release problematic because it eats away at their children's inheritance which, you say, children will be expecting.

You effectively told your parents you expect an inheritance from them.

I don't think your Dad's assumption is worse than that. Not even as bad, really, since Lucy isn't in the room during the discussion whereas you're right there telling your parents they should be thinking about how much money they're leaving you.

ExercicenformedeZ · 21/02/2025 21:21

RawBloomers · 21/02/2025 21:19

You've made your own assumptions. You've assumed that parents might find equity release problematic because it eats away at their children's inheritance which, you say, children will be expecting.

You effectively told your parents you expect an inheritance from them.

I don't think your Dad's assumption is worse than that. Not even as bad, really, since Lucy isn't in the room during the discussion whereas you're right there telling your parents they should be thinking about how much money they're leaving you.

Totally different expecting an inheritance from parents than one from aunt/uncle. I don't think that parents should disinherit children unless there is a very, very good reason.

Viveladonut · 21/02/2025 21:23

Why is your automatic response that it wouldn't go to your niece, whatever is leftover after you do all your spending? Do you have something against her/your brother?

It's a fairly reasonable passing comment for your dad to make. Not sure why it's gotten under your skin so much. Must be something about your dynamic with your dad.

PorridgeEater · 21/02/2025 21:23

Don't discuss your Will with your parents.

Bellyblueboy · 21/02/2025 21:24

It’s such an emotive subject isn’t it.

i don’t have children. Everything I have will go to my neice and nephew. My niece jokes about it - she is 10😂.

people equate inheritance and the importance we place on the family we will leave behind. While I will enjoy my money, I love my neice and nephew very much. I will leave a nice inheritance. I enjoy spoiling them now and would live them to have a few fabulous holidays, but a nice house or ten sports cars when I am dead!!

your dad just likes to think his grandchild isnsurrou fed by people who will support him. That of course shouldn’t equal money - but it is how people think of wills - and it’s why people are so hurt when they aren’t remembered in a loved ones will.

Mum2jenny · 21/02/2025 21:24

Just leave it to who you want. If it’s not Lucy, just allocate a nominal amount, say 5k, and leave the rest to me (obviously joking), but leave your assets where you choose!

Trunksarebetter · 21/02/2025 21:25

RawBloomers · 21/02/2025 21:19

You've made your own assumptions. You've assumed that parents might find equity release problematic because it eats away at their children's inheritance which, you say, children will be expecting.

You effectively told your parents you expect an inheritance from them.

I don't think your Dad's assumption is worse than that. Not even as bad, really, since Lucy isn't in the room during the discussion whereas you're right there telling your parents they should be thinking about how much money they're leaving you.

Eh? I’ve said nothing of the sort. You’ve made this up.

OP posts:
Randomer75 · 21/02/2025 21:26

ExercicenformedeZ · 21/02/2025 21:16

'Holding back'? I don't get it. Why should the OP leave the money to her niece?

I think OP should leave her money to whom so ever she pleases.

I’m saying that her Dad (who is separate to me) thought she would ‘naturally’ as part of the family do one thing. And she thought quite differently.
So he found it unsettled him that she had quite a different opinion on the matter than she had.

Lentilweaver · 21/02/2025 21:26

I don't think.people should expect inheritances from.their aunts/uncles, particularly not their child free aunts. So grasping.

Hwi · 21/02/2025 21:27

There is so much in it, in your dad's reaction, I mean. Firstly, he thinks of other people before he thinks of you - he should have said - spend it all on yourself, dear boy. Secondly, he seems to have more concern for your brother and/or his daughter than you, which is not nice. Not nice, absolutely. And thirdly, none of his business what you will spend it on.

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