To ask who is the biggest grifter you've seen?

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I remember Anthea Turner punting flakes at her wedding. Carol Vorderman was always quick to front a financial product. Just seen Carole Malone on my timeline oiling on about weight loss jabs.

Any others spring to mind?

Dale Vince and his massive taxpayer subsidies.

@Icanttakethisanymore Where most of the £32 million concerned is taxpayers money, I would describe it as sickening that any divorcee could have that much spent on them, whilst wearing a white dress and veil. They could have had a more appropriate event, like Charles and Camilla, without the pomp and ceremony. Let alone the forced relocating of cousins of homeless people for the occasion.

*dozens, not cousins!

@Ger1atricMillennial "Is grifter a US term, thats migrated via social media, because its very similar to grafter and I always think it someone who works hard"

That's grafter. Not grifter.

Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it is not understood.

I bet more British people use the word grifter than the word vernacular.

I strongly doubt that...but loving the bitchiness.

Did she say that? Or did she say that for respondents of the survey that was the case? I remember a massive pile on of people going "It's not peer reviewed" and her saying "I never said it was". I remember because there were so many men more concerned about needing to discredit the principle than being concerned that it was even a thing.

Psychology is a science that makes anyone with an understanding of statistics want to cry anyway.

Not been to the east of London recently then?

You're missing the point. Normally, when you die in bona vacantia assets passed to "the crown" ultimately go to the treasury, and are therefore available to be spent on behalf of the public/taxpayer as any other money received by the treasury is.
But when you die intestate and without next of kin in the Duchies of Cornwall or Lancaster, the entire estate became the personal property of the monarch or prince of wales, to be spent on luxuries as they saw fit.

And anyone who thinks royal assent is just a formality hasn't been paying attention. See for example:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/09/queens-consent-and-a-royal-abuse-of-power

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/28/prince-charles-pressured-ministers-change-law-queen-consent

Surely the Grifter Crown goes to Belle Gibson of Whole Pantry notoriety??

She managed to scam Penguin Books, Apple and countless cancer sufferers by pretending she had stage 4 brain cancer which she cured by eating organic food and doing yoga.

She's been done for charity fraud also and has refused to pay the fine she was sanctioned with following a civil claim in Australia.

Grifter by anyone's definition

I genuinely have no idea why being a divorcee makes a difference. Are you saying £32m on a wedding would ge ok if she wasn’t a divorcee?

I would say that a con artist is a different thing.

A con artist sets up a scheme, they have a plan, a way to part you from your money that they have thought out.

Grifters just sort of float through life convinced that what they are doing is real and worthwhile. They land on their feet and have no evidence to the contrary. Enough people listen to them or believe them that they believe it too.

See Jack Monroe for example. I don’t think she set out to pretend to be poor and write shit books. She thought she was poor and wrote some stuff that got picked up. Then people kept telling her how brilliant she was and she believed it. Then she was in over her head.

jak monroe with her patreon grift that people get nothing from then she has an episode an laims she not well

I visualise him riding round on his mobility scooter on a hot afternoon, off to his local Spoons to flog his dodgy baccy clad in a string vest and trackie bottoms with all his tatoos proudly on display, especially the one that proclaims "who's the daddy?". One of his chubby ankles boasts an electronic tag that he has arranged for a mate to tamper with so that he can stay out late to enjoy a dalliance with his latest conquest. On the way to Spoons he calls into the bookies where he has an account that is of course in arrears. He has cadged a tenner from a gullible mate and after a bit of to and fro flirting with the cashier puts it on a dead sure winner or at least that is what he told the mate who will never see his tenner again let alone the promised winnings. Needless to say, he will be late for his appointment with probation but he is convinced that his banter, bluster and natural charisma will save him from being recalled to jail.

wy is she still oing it-shewas never poor

musktrump

Getting worse as it's now confirmed his reasons for getting involved with Ukraine not really to end the war but for the mineral wealth and I wonder who would have got the contracts.

You must live near me. My friend was collecting for our local foodbank a few years ago and LadBaby went out of his way to avoid their stand in an almost comical way and seemed to go to more trouble to avoid it than any other customer they have ever seen. What a golden opportunity wasted! Hideous creatures!

Yes to Hannah Ingram Moore, Michelle Mone, Liz Fraser...

@Icanttakethisanymore More justified in being spent on a couple with a long term commitment to each other, rather than a twice divorced con artist, with questionable yachting connections to Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew, who was also residing with another boyfriend at the time she ensnared a gullible prince? Yes.

What did Jack Monroe actually do? I've never understood it.

No I fully understand you are trying to be charitable, but I feel no pity for the Tate brothers. They are utterly repulsive turds who need flushing out to sea. I would feel guilty for the pollution though!
Perhaps my previous suggestion of a hard kick in the nuts would have less environmental impact?

From memory she claimed that her and her son were living on the breadline and poor but her parents were not short of money and foster carers I believe. Now some parents can be uncaring and just having well off parents doesn’t me they will help you but I can’t imagine the kind of people who foster children taking that attitude.
She claimed to have been a firefighter and made allusions to that just after Grenfall. She had worked for the fire service but not as a firefighter.
She took money from people for a new book she was writing which never came out.

I see how your term would apply to Meghan- she has convinced herself she adds value, without purposefully looking to deceive. But the film "Grifters" which people keep quoting are about people who are crooks who are purposefully out to deceive.

Ironically, I went to the same school as Jack Monroe, I was apparently in the year above.

Here is a more detailed account.

medium.com/@pollyanabanana/jack-monroe-and-why-twitter-is-raging-edb60f9fa843

m.markle comes to mind a bit 🙄