to call my cockerpoo a poodle?

[Thebiggerthecoffeethebetter]

I rescued him last year. I did health testing via a DNA sample as I have done with my other rescues in the past. It can give you an idea of what you might need to prepare for in the future.

Anyway, it also tells you the breed make up and turns out he is 82% poodle which does not surprise me.

WIBU to say he is a poodle when people ask about him? He looks like a poodle, acts like a poodle and turns out is overwhelmingly poodle...🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm just so acutely aware of all the doodle hate and judgement 😭

(obvs his vet record and insurance has the breed make up)

A mongrel is a dog whose parentage is not known but it's unlikely both parents are purebreds. They're also known as mixed breed.
A first cross is a dog whose parents are known and both parents are purebreds. My dog is a first cross: Black Lab mum x Border Collie dad.

Nope
MONGREL | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

People in real life don't care whether your dog is a doodle....only on MN!!

That's not the Kennel Club's definition.

"A crossbred dog usually comes from parents that are from two distinctive breeds, or from several generations of dogs that were originally made up from two breeds. Crossbreeds often have a mix of their parent’s traits and characteristics, so it's important to think about how this mix could affect the puppies. Some popular crossbreeds have nicknames that combine the names of their parents’ breeds, such as ‘Labradoodle’ (Labrador Retriever and Poodle) or ‘Cockerpoo’ (Cocker Spaniel and Poodle). Crossbreeds with these nicknames are often referred to as ‘designer dogs."

"Mixed-bred dogs don’t usually have a pedigree or a known family tree and are either made up of three or more breeds, or they may come from parents whose breed combinations are unknown. Not knowing which breed combinations make up a dog can make it very difficult to predict how the puppies will look, their temperament, and if they will be at risk of health problems."

I care sometimes when people talk about dog breeds. For example if you are thinking about getting a particular dog because the ones you know behave in a certain way it can be important. If you have been impressed by a dog for one reason or another and you ask about it and the owner isn't truthful about the breed then your research becomes a bit dodgy.

People are so funny and snobby over poodle crosses. I’m quite happy to call my two a Labradoodle and a Cavapoo - I know they’re not KC recognised breeds; I don’t care, people generally recognise what I mean by the name. Do all the people loftily insisting that they must only be referred to as mongrels (which is also nothing to be embarrassed about!) realise that your ‘pure-bred’ breeds also usually came into being by selective cross-breeding? The Labrador has only been registered as a breed for a little over a hundred years, having originally been bred from St John’s Water Dogs (also a mish-mash of other breeds originally) and British hunting dogs. Dog breeds evolve over time, and they’re all wonderful!

We had a family dog that was a poodle cross, way back before they were popular, in the 80s. He was a wonderful dog and lived a long life. Anyone who has an issue with poodle crosses is being rather stupid, imho. It's best to ignore them. I gather it's an unpopular opinion on here, but often mixed breed dogs look better and are healthier than purebred dogs, anyway.

You have a mongrel. Makes me laugh how people have become infatuated with the idea that a mongrel can be worth a fortune if you think up a silly name for it. Capitalism at it's best - 50 years ago you couldn't have charged a tenner for a mongrel, but give it a fancy name and it's suddenly worth £thousands.

@Grammarnut mine dances too!

The dog in question is a rescue so not sure why you're making snide comments at the OP who certainly won't have paid thousands for it.

The thing is, whilst all the poodle crosses are indeed simply crossbreeds at the moment, it is likely that some (though not all) of them may become recognised breeds in their own right.

Lots of recognised breeds originated as cross breeds, often the original breeds in question have become extinct over time. Probably due to the greater popularity of the crossbreeds created from them.

I don't understand the instance around saying Mongrel.

If you say come meet my mongrel I have zero idea what to expect.

If someone says puggle, or yorkipoo or staffadoor, I have a good idea what I will see. And it's quicker than saying a pug and beagle cross.

i have had a cockapoo for 4 years and never once encountered ‘doodle hate’…. Think you might be over thinking this

Given he's mostly poodle I can see why you don't want to call him a cockerpoo necessarily. Personally I'd call him a poodle cross or a mostly-poodle mix.

Although technically mongrel is the right term I always felt it had slightly negative connotations. We had a real mixed dog when I was growing up and I always called her a pick'n'mix. If pushed I'd say "vet's best guess is X cross Y".

Cockapoo isn't even a breed it's a mix!

I have a cross breed that cost £500 10 years ago. It was the best £500 I've spent.

No-one cares that it makes you giggle.

We spent £499 on a private plate for our campervan too.

I could be less of a wanker.

Doodle hate is definitely a thing!

"Not knowing which breed combinations make up a dog can make it very difficult to predict how the puppies will look, their temperament, and if they will be at risk of health problems."

I'm laughing at the idea of the Kennel Club caring about health problems when half their pedigrees are so inbred and deformed they are in constant pain and have drastically shortened lives!

Modern use of the term mongrel is rare and generally used to describe a dog with no definable breed type

If it's two known purebreds then the current term is now crossbreed

YABVU not to pay the cute-animal-photo tax 😁

Haha. Yeah. The power of marketing 😅

I haven't got one but the poodle crosses are lovely dogs.

Cockapoo, labradoodle, spanieltriever, corgihusky. Why not call them what they are? Mongrels. (Oh, dear. Might that hurt the dogs' feelings and affect their self esteem?)

Can we see a pic pls?

I have a red toy poodle and people are always surprised when I says ‘Yes just a poodle!’

What’s wrong with poodles?!