To be annoyed that vegan options have replaced vegetarian?

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It's only a silly gripe in the grand scheme of things but it's bloody annoying.

I've been a vegetarian my whole life but since veganism has become more popular and more and more people are becoming part of the movement (and good on them!) it's like restaurants, cafes and hotels have skipped adding vegetarian options and thought "well vegan options covers both so we'll just add a few of those"

No! I am not vegan. I am vegetarian. I still want my eggs, my cream, my cheese, my butter. I want a stilton and broccoli bake, not a grilled bit of cauliflower!

Afternoon tea (I'm a fan and have one as often as I can) is the worst for it. There's an ordinary menu and then there's a vegan menu and that's it. You order one or the other. I don't want chicken or fish sandwiches but I sure as hell want my scones with proper clotted cream! So I have to be specific about the sandwiches and say I want some from one menu and some from the other. Bloody annoying.

Any other veggies feel the same?

YANBU! I always get annoyed because all I want is a veggie OR vegan burger with normal cheese on it, not the vegan stuff. Happy with any of the three (!!) vegan burgers on the menu at our local, which is fine but they don't want to put normal cheese on them! 😭

Vegan cheese is the absolute WORST! I completely agree. I want a veggie burger with actual cheese!
And I'm sick of my toast coming without butter just because I didn't order my meat to go with it!

Feedback to the restaurants, cafes and hotels, that’ll help you more than complaining on mumsnet. This will just turn into the usual vegan bashing thread but maybe that’s the aim. There was a sub on reddit where people talked about pretending to be vegetarian on forums to moan about vegans, in order to appear fair when slagging vegans. Odd, but these threads always put me in mind of that.

My boss was veggie for three years (so not long-term by any means), she's now gone back to eating meat in the last 2 years, because she doesn't like the vegan options and there's no choice for her as a veggie 😳

I'd wonder why are you vegetarian?
For the animals? I'm sure you know about the horrible parts of the milk and egg industries.
I think it's great that there are so many vegan options. But then, I'm vegan, so I would say that. I'm vegan for the animals first, then for my health. For the future of the planet too.

YANBU but it's clearly a cost saving exercise.

Similar to a friend of mine, who I saw munching on a chicken sandwich the other day, and cited that as the reason when I queried her.

Is she still veggie at home?

I was vegan for 10 years and my slow decline into omnivorism began with a holiday exemption.

Well first of all, I never said I didn't feed back to the places I go.

And secondly, no, it's not a vegan bashing thread. I said "good on them". It's a catering bashing thread. It's lazy (of catering establishments) to lump us together just because vegetarians do eat vegan food.
If others bash vegans that's on them but I rather resent the implications that I started the thread with that intention.

Yanbu.

Not least because vegan cheese should be down on the list of crimes against humanity. Coconut oil “mozzarella sticks” anyone?

I totally agree!

We ( veggie family) eat out less than we used to as I don't want the ubiquitous curry or Beyond Meat veggie burger etc.

I ask for dairy. Don't understand why they would object but I don't usually have that problem.

It's not YOUR eggs, YOUR cream, YOUR cheese, YOUR butter.

Those are products of animal abuse. They belong to the animals.

Just go vegan.

I won't be getting into my reasons. Just because that's not what the thread is about and I don't want to derail it.

Totally agree, especially as many restaurants' idea of vegan food is highly processed meat and dairy substitutes, so you end up with a fake meat burger with fake cheese and fake mayo being the only veggie option, rather than a dish based on veggies, pulses and grains!
I had afternoon tea recently and asked for vegetarian. I ended up with vegan sandwiches but actual cream on the scones and dairy in the cakes. Absolutely no logic to it!

Agree. But am most annoyed by all the fake meat taking over menus. I hate fake meat. So many nice veggies that everyone can eat.

Yes, agree, I hate it. I never, ever eat fake meat and never have

I ordered McDonalds the other day (the shame!) I ordered a Veggie Deluxe for myself which is veggie patties type stuff. They sent me a bloody McPlant! Horrible fake meat crap!
It's like they saw the word "veggie" and thought - that'll cover it.
I still have preferences.

I can't see the point of 'doing' afternoon tea for a vegan......what would you be able to eat?

Same. And I was a veggie for 20 years!

Yes, YANBU! I don't want to eat vegan food, especially when I'm paying for an expensive meal. I love cheese and milk and eggs and find the vegan replacements are usually horrible.

The worst is when you order the vegan burger, but they won't add proper cheese to it. Why not?!

Morally I am fully aware that vegans are right, but I could never be vegan myself. I do buy organic eggs and milk though, in an attempt to avoid the worst parts of the industry.

I agree 100%. I think it's very lazy actually, lumping vegans and vegetarians together so the restaurant only has to provide one option. I actually love vegan food and cook it a lot at home but when I go out I want to indulge. I want cream and butter and cheese!

Honestly can't say i've been anywhere and seen this. There's always a vegetarian option and rarely a vegan one. Especially for afternoon tea. If anything vegan options have declined lately.

I'm vegan and struggle still to find options. Veggie is easy. What annoys me more is all the fake meat rubbish now. I don't want a fake meat burger or fake steak or whatever. I miss the standard bean burger offerings.

The mass produced vegan 'food' on offer in supermarkets is dire, one step away from plastic. How anyone can say they eat it for health reasons given the level of fat content in the majority of the stuff is mind boggling.

It's none of your business.
I get so tired then vegans tell me off.