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For not wanting anyone at my sons birthday

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Justlivelovelaugheat · 12/02/2025 03:57

So my precious little munchkin is 1 soon. It’s such an important moment for me as no one understands what it took to get here. I have another baby who is 2. I handled my pregnancy by myself with no family help not even a phone call asking how we was even though I also had another young child. I am so proud of our little family. There were many ups and downs now it’s time to celebrate making it to 1 year!

I felt the same way with my first (so excited for her first birthday had planned it for months) however her birthday ended up being one of the worst days of my life. We organised a party for both mine and my DH’s families. Both of them made the whole day about themselves, criticised us for not having organised the day better and tried changing our plans. Later, they complained they didn’t have enough to eat and my DH was forced to pay loads to order everyone meals. Some were unhappy so we had to pay even more getting everyone what they desired. It was horrible and I’ll never forget it.

Am I being unreasonable for not wanting family at my son’s birthday after this experience? Even after not visiting or helping us throughout the year family automatically assume they should be at my son’s birthday but the day would be a whole lot better without them. I don’t want judgement on what we choose to do or rather don’t choose to do on the day.

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OptimisticRealist2024 · 13/02/2025 06:28

I'd do whatever you want on the day, and then tell people there’s tea and cake at yours between 2pm and 4pm/whenever convenient* so people can call round if you want. No catering, no hanging around, but an opportunity for people to pop in and buggar off. They know it's not a banquet, they can decline if they want to. Some balloons, birthday cake, quiet background music. This is what my SIL does and it's perfect - love my tiny nieces and nephews but they are small, they get tired, and we don't like to get in the way. Popping round for a cup of tea and to watch them attempt to open a present from us is enough when they're so small.

*lie, and tell people it finishes 30 minutes earlier than the actual final cut-off. That way you're not still welcoming stragglers at 5pm when you want to clear up and wind down.

Incidentally, I'd always assume I was paying for my own meal unless it's a wedding, my own birthday, someone has said they expressly want to take me out and treat me, I can actually see a buffet in front of me, or I've received a formal invitation by post. (Tbh, unless it's a wedding or there's clearly a buffet, I'd offer to pay my way anyway.) Your family sounds charming.

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 06:30

HoppingPavlova · 13/02/2025 06:11

I throw the question back to you: would you expect your friends or family to pay for your meal at a birthday dinner for their son

Just to go round in complete circles. Yes, most people would expect this.

I have several kids. When they were little we had parties at soft play. At every single party we catered appropriate food platters for children and food platters for adults. As did everyone else I know where we were invited to their birthday parties at soft play.

Let’s branch out from soft play though. This has also been the case at every other child’s birthday party we have put on, no matter the venue or st home. Catered food for children and added some platters for the adults (which decrease as the children grow in age and they no longer have adults with them, so then you just need to account for any other family/adults that are there). This is very standard stuff.

Moving on to adult birthday parties. These ARE different to children’s parties in that catering is optional. However if you invite people it needs to be CLEARLY COMMUNICATED whether you are paying for the meals or they are paying for their own as part of the invitation. It could even be hybrid, in that you pay for meals but everyone pays for their own drinks, which is never a problem but MUST BE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED on the invite. It’s also situational, if you are inviting people to celebrate your child’s 21st or your 40th birthday and you put on the invite people are to pay for own meals there will be that understanding, but also a lot of chin scratching and muttering as that’s really unusual as landmark birthdays are traditionally catered. Non landmark birthdays, people wouldn’t think twice about the instruction that attendance means they pay for own meals, however it still all needs to be stated on the invite. This is all still applicable for non paper invites, such as social media invites.

Really weird that adults need such explanations.

And it was! Friends and acquaintances did not have a problem with the day and made it very enjoyable. A soft play session is an hour and a half, cake was there it was perfect to suffice for that time and if they wanted food there was a restaurant. The part I was annoyed about was close family members INSISTING on coming back of course to continue the day with us but complaining the whole day.

If anyone can read my posts you’ll see these particular family members are stingy, failed to get my kids presents for Christmas even though we got them some. They frequently take but do not give and on her birthday I thought for once they wouldn’t try to snatch the spotlight. And even after we got them food which they asked for, they still were searching for the nearest McDonald’s! That’s rude and weird.

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Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 06:32

OptimisticRealist2024 · 13/02/2025 06:28

I'd do whatever you want on the day, and then tell people there’s tea and cake at yours between 2pm and 4pm/whenever convenient* so people can call round if you want. No catering, no hanging around, but an opportunity for people to pop in and buggar off. They know it's not a banquet, they can decline if they want to. Some balloons, birthday cake, quiet background music. This is what my SIL does and it's perfect - love my tiny nieces and nephews but they are small, they get tired, and we don't like to get in the way. Popping round for a cup of tea and to watch them attempt to open a present from us is enough when they're so small.

*lie, and tell people it finishes 30 minutes earlier than the actual final cut-off. That way you're not still welcoming stragglers at 5pm when you want to clear up and wind down.

Incidentally, I'd always assume I was paying for my own meal unless it's a wedding, my own birthday, someone has said they expressly want to take me out and treat me, I can actually see a buffet in front of me, or I've received a formal invitation by post. (Tbh, unless it's a wedding or there's clearly a buffet, I'd offer to pay my way anyway.) Your family sounds charming.

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So would I? No one could pay for 30+ people at a restaurant. Call me Bill Gates if I could.

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Waitingforthecold · 13/02/2025 06:44

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 06:32

So would I? No one could pay for 30+ people at a restaurant. Call me Bill Gates if I could.

Heads up if you ever throw nursery or school parties - you are 100% expected to cater for 30+ people 😬 you didn’t need to buy them each a restaurant meal, most soft plays will do party packages or let you supply your own spread of buffet type food, I’d expect this is what people were expecting!

HoppingPavlova · 13/02/2025 06:52

No one could pay for 30+ people at a restaurant. Call me Bill Gates if I could

You are not being very creative , and you don’t need to be Bill Gates. Even for an adult party, most venues are very happy to work with you to develop platter options. You simply contact some venues, say ‘I’m having a celebration, there will be 30 odd people, individual meals are not an option, can you do maybe a few platters of pastas and some pizza’s to cover’. They say yes or no, and you ask them for a sample menu and pricing. Several loaves of garlic bread, a few large pasta platters and some pizza’s stretch out quite well among 30 people. Even adding in a few large simple garden salads on top is fairly cheap but depends on the crowd (for instance a group comprising mainly young men won’t generally touch them in my experience, whereas a women heavy group would be more up for salad and you could even swap out some of the pasta/pizza for big share garden salad bowls). Venues are often quite keen to do this for a very reasonable price if they think they are going to make their money with drinks instead😁.

ETA you probably spent as much on takeaway pizza and Chinese as you would have doing the above.

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 06:54

Waitingforthecold · 13/02/2025 06:44

Heads up if you ever throw nursery or school parties - you are 100% expected to cater for 30+ people 😬 you didn’t need to buy them each a restaurant meal, most soft plays will do party packages or let you supply your own spread of buffet type food, I’d expect this is what people were expecting!

Oh god going to have to collecting pennies lol. Won’t be so bad for sweet lovely kids. But don’t appreciate the who ruined dd’s birthday. We were pretty young then, had just moved and had our first kid we definitely wasn’t drowning in money and our families were well aware of that. I was out of work and DH was still employed (now he owns 2 businesses) I wouldn’t have asked a couple with a young child to pay for my meal but that’s just me. We’re lucky to be in a stable position now though.

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Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 06:57

HoppingPavlova · 13/02/2025 06:52

No one could pay for 30+ people at a restaurant. Call me Bill Gates if I could

You are not being very creative , and you don’t need to be Bill Gates. Even for an adult party, most venues are very happy to work with you to develop platter options. You simply contact some venues, say ‘I’m having a celebration, there will be 30 odd people, individual meals are not an option, can you do maybe a few platters of pastas and some pizza’s to cover’. They say yes or no, and you ask them for a sample menu and pricing. Several loaves of garlic bread, a few large pasta platters and some pizza’s stretch out quite well among 30 people. Even adding in a few large simple garden salads on top is fairly cheap but depends on the crowd (for instance a group comprising mainly young men won’t generally touch them in my experience, whereas a women heavy group would be more up for salad and you could even swap out some of the pasta/pizza for big share garden salad bowls). Venues are often quite keen to do this for a very reasonable price if they think they are going to make their money with drinks instead😁.

ETA you probably spent as much on takeaway pizza and Chinese as you would have doing the above.

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100% you’re right. That part was my mistake because we definitely probably spent more. Ill keep that in mind when the kids have parties with their nursery friends.

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HoppingPavlova · 13/02/2025 07:01

Heads up if you ever throw nursery or school parties - you are 100% expected to cater for 30+ people 😬 you didn’t need to buy them each a restaurant meal, most soft plays will do party packages or let you supply your own spread of buffet type food, I’d expect this is what people were expecting

Exactly. Even for a 90min soft play session, this is the expectation. Even just light stuff like some finger sandwiches, crisps, fruit. The expectation is for actual food as well. Not doing so is going to go down like a sack of shit with nursery/school parents because it’s expected.

Waitingforthecold · 13/02/2025 07:07

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 06:54

Oh god going to have to collecting pennies lol. Won’t be so bad for sweet lovely kids. But don’t appreciate the who ruined dd’s birthday. We were pretty young then, had just moved and had our first kid we definitely wasn’t drowning in money and our families were well aware of that. I was out of work and DH was still employed (now he owns 2 businesses) I wouldn’t have asked a couple with a young child to pay for my meal but that’s just me. We’re lucky to be in a stable position now though.

Im definitely learning it’s not cheap! Something a couple of my kids friends have done are 10-12 soft play slots and then have provided pastries and fruit with a cake to sing and take home a slice of. I imagine it’s a cheaper way of doing it and the kids all love it!

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:12

HoppingPavlova · 13/02/2025 07:01

Heads up if you ever throw nursery or school parties - you are 100% expected to cater for 30+ people 😬 you didn’t need to buy them each a restaurant meal, most soft plays will do party packages or let you supply your own spread of buffet type food, I’d expect this is what people were expecting

Exactly. Even for a 90min soft play session, this is the expectation. Even just light stuff like some finger sandwiches, crisps, fruit. The expectation is for actual food as well. Not doing so is going to go down like a sack of shit with nursery/school parents because it’s expected.

Hey nice to see you again! Didnt I just reply to you saying you’re right? Problem is, these aren’t nursery school parents. It’s family. They should’ve made it as easy as possible knowing we didn’t have a wad of cash back then. I’m talking my parents, DH family. An hour and a half of cake is not ideal but a restaurant was available. We were there to celebrate our dd. They did specifically ask to come back to ours and then complained. We got their food even though we had just spent loads on moving house and dd presents and they still decided they wanted to spend their own money to get something else! To take from your kids and younger family members on their dd birthday knowing one of them is not in work is not something I would do. But when the kids go to nursery I will 100% get/ probably make platters and platters of food.

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CleverButScatty · 13/02/2025 07:18

user9632579 · 13/02/2025 02:36

Did your DH not contribute during your pregnancy? How did you do it all alone?

As someone who was genuinely a single parent, with practically no support network and no financial support from their dad, working full time to put a roof over our heads, I do get wound up when people whose nice husband has to sometimes work away for the good salary he is bringing in, describe themselves as 'doing it alone' or say they know what it's like to be a single parent.

plan4now · 13/02/2025 07:21

Echoing everyone else that the expectation at a child’s party is you pay for the activity and food for the children at a minimum (and ideally provide snacks/open a tab for adults to grab coffees). At a party at home for children, the expectation is you’ll provide food for (all)guests.

The etiquette isn’t like you’re going for a casual 27th birthday deal with your friends and everyone pays their own way. That isn’t how it works with children’s parties - and unless told otherwise, I think people would be very confused if the rocked up and discovered no food for the children at least.

I’m currently in prime children’s party years, as have a 6 and 3 year old.

But I think you should just tell people you are just celebrating as a foursome this year. And if you do have family over to drop off presents, make sure you have some food (even just cake, sandwiches, sausage rolls) available.

On an aside, I’m wondering where the restaurant with soft play is? I’ve seen cafes and pubs with soft plays, and soft plays with cafes. But I haven’t come across a proper restaurant with a large soft play that you’d have to pay to go into. And this sounds great.

ByPearlSnail · 13/02/2025 07:25

CleverButScatty · 13/02/2025 07:18

As someone who was genuinely a single parent, with practically no support network and no financial support from their dad, working full time to put a roof over our heads, I do get wound up when people whose nice husband has to sometimes work away for the good salary he is bringing in, describe themselves as 'doing it alone' or say they know what it's like to be a single parent.

I agree with this as a fellow single parent.
’I did it all alone’ followed by having a DH. If you really did it all alone you have a massive DH problem OP.

MumonabikeE5 · 13/02/2025 07:25

coronafiona · 12/02/2025 04:45

I'd do your own thing on the day but invite family for birthday cake another day "we are having a little get together 2-4pm for tea and birthday cake. Would be lovely to see you!" And gloss over the whole thing. Set the parameters, no one is drinking, everyone gone by 4 so you can feed the children.

I’d do it in the park, so you can leave when you want, and don’t have to get the dodgy family members to leave your house.

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:26

CleverButScatty · 13/02/2025 07:18

As someone who was genuinely a single parent, with practically no support network and no financial support from their dad, working full time to put a roof over our heads, I do get wound up when people whose nice husband has to sometimes work away for the good salary he is bringing in, describe themselves as 'doing it alone' or say they know what it's like to be a single parent.

Wound up is strong. I’m sorry for how bitter it’s all left you :( As a mom, I’d never diminish the role of another one. I’m sure you can agree I don’t know you and you don’t know me. But I’m curious: how do you work and look after your kids as well? Surely you have a babysitter, nursery or family member help? Technically, you didn’t do it all by yourself either. DH always works away or long hours, yes to bring in income, but I don’t have any family support nor a break and don’t even have the time to practice self care. Don’t assume I have it easy, moms should appreciate one another. It’s a hard job either way.

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Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:32

ByPearlSnail · 13/02/2025 07:25

I agree with this as a fellow single parent.
’I did it all alone’ followed by having a DH. If you really did it all alone you have a massive DH problem OP.

I find moms are the least supportive towards one another. It’s always single parent vs SAHM. What’s made you so angry by someone else’s truth? I did do the hard parts all by myself, still waiting for a break! So did you and I applaud single parents. Someone stepped up when the other parent wouldn’t yet they still get criticised it’s disgusting. Don’t criticise me though. Moms are amazing let’s just leave it at that.

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ByPearlSnail · 13/02/2025 07:37

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:26

Wound up is strong. I’m sorry for how bitter it’s all left you :( As a mom, I’d never diminish the role of another one. I’m sure you can agree I don’t know you and you don’t know me. But I’m curious: how do you work and look after your kids as well? Surely you have a babysitter, nursery or family member help? Technically, you didn’t do it all by yourself either. DH always works away or long hours, yes to bring in income, but I don’t have any family support nor a break and don’t even have the time to practice self care. Don’t assume I have it easy, moms should appreciate one another. It’s a hard job either way.

Apple didn’t fall far from the tree did it

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:43

ByPearlSnail · 13/02/2025 07:37

Apple didn’t fall far from the tree did it

Huh? Don’t get it. I’m going to offer you some kindness instead though. Some of us sacrifice our careers for our kids even if we worked really hard to get to a certain professional level. Like me. Others sacrifice time with the kids for our careers (presumably you) even though we love our kids and want the very best for them.
Whatever the sacrifice, we often feel guilty that we aren't able to do it all... and so we try compensate by making another mom probably the alternative look or feel worse. It's petty, and it's stupid. But I get it. You’re tired and you’ve been through it. Your kids are lucky to have you.

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sarah419 · 13/02/2025 07:43

The day is about your child - and these kind of acts create more distance between your child and the extended family. Every child deserves joys from grandparents and to be spoilt by aunts and uncles. I would hold something special with your immediate family alone, then a sep “party” with the extended family. It’s about your children not you..

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:45

sarah419 · 13/02/2025 07:43

The day is about your child - and these kind of acts create more distance between your child and the extended family. Every child deserves joys from grandparents and to be spoilt by aunts and uncles. I would hold something special with your immediate family alone, then a sep “party” with the extended family. It’s about your children not you..

I agree. My family failed to get my kids presents on Xmas though and only ever see them on their birthdays as they claim to be too busy. It’s a two way street.

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MumChp · 13/02/2025 07:46

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:43

Huh? Don’t get it. I’m going to offer you some kindness instead though. Some of us sacrifice our careers for our kids even if we worked really hard to get to a certain professional level. Like me. Others sacrifice time with the kids for our careers (presumably you) even though we love our kids and want the very best for them.
Whatever the sacrifice, we often feel guilty that we aren't able to do it all... and so we try compensate by making another mom probably the alternative look or feel worse. It's petty, and it's stupid. But I get it. You’re tired and you’ve been through it. Your kids are lucky to have you.

Still different to be a single mum on one persons income. And all responsibility for daily life.
Doesn't matter if you're a SAHM or working you have more on your plate without a partner.
Most single parents can afford to be SAHP but has no choice to work.

CleverButScatty · 13/02/2025 07:53

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:26

Wound up is strong. I’m sorry for how bitter it’s all left you :( As a mom, I’d never diminish the role of another one. I’m sure you can agree I don’t know you and you don’t know me. But I’m curious: how do you work and look after your kids as well? Surely you have a babysitter, nursery or family member help? Technically, you didn’t do it all by yourself either. DH always works away or long hours, yes to bring in income, but I don’t have any family support nor a break and don’t even have the time to practice self care. Don’t assume I have it easy, moms should appreciate one another. It’s a hard job either way.

Wound up is generally interpreted as somewhat irritated, not furious or devastated or any other 'strong' adjectives.

I was a teacher who took all marking and prep home with me and worked til the early hours after my 3 children were in bed. They did after school club on staff meeting night. It had a lifelong impact on my physical and mental health but we had a secure home and food on the table. So we were all in our respective schools/nurseries at the same time then all at home together. So earning all of the money, doing all homework, hobbies, night get ups with the little one, housework, laundry, shopping, cooking, then doing a full time demanding job.

I don't know where you get 'butter' from? My career has done well, my children are happy and settled, I bought a lovely home (genuinely all by myself) and eventually met someone lovely after a number of years and am very happily married.

It's just a bit self indulgent to describe yourself as doing it alone. Doing it alone would have meant you were the one bringing every last penny into the house, whilst pregnant, looking after a toddler and doing all housework etc.

Anyway, I agree with previous posters saying have a family day out.

SonK · 13/02/2025 07:56

OP I completely understand you frustration, the same thing happened to me except my DH left me with the kids and his side of the family to go for a drink at the pub!!!

I didn't invite anyone to my baby's first birthday, I simply organised a picnic and day out at the park for us however they all called on the day and said they were coming too with their kids.

I thought okay why not, so got more sandwiches, salad and nibbles, drinks, cupcakes for the picnic.

I thought that was the end of it but then was followed home by the lot and had to order everyone pizza as well because the kids were complaining they were hungry ( older kids, not my one)

They were with us from 12 in the afternoon until 8.30 in the evening I was knackered and didn't get to do what I wanted with my baby : (

Anyway this time, lesson learnt - I m going to say NO, we are only doing a family thing away from home.

We're going to take my two year old to the zoo and I m not even going to tell them the location.

If they ask to come over to drop off gifts I will let them know we are out and they can drop them off another day!

CleverButScatty · 13/02/2025 07:58

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 07:43

Huh? Don’t get it. I’m going to offer you some kindness instead though. Some of us sacrifice our careers for our kids even if we worked really hard to get to a certain professional level. Like me. Others sacrifice time with the kids for our careers (presumably you) even though we love our kids and want the very best for them.
Whatever the sacrifice, we often feel guilty that we aren't able to do it all... and so we try compensate by making another mom probably the alternative look or feel worse. It's petty, and it's stupid. But I get it. You’re tired and you’ve been through it. Your kids are lucky to have you.

If you want to start a SAHM Vs working mum bunfight (FFS in 2025) start a new thread. This one's meant to be about a birthday party.

Justlivelovelaugheat · 13/02/2025 08:00

CleverButScatty · 13/02/2025 07:53

Wound up is generally interpreted as somewhat irritated, not furious or devastated or any other 'strong' adjectives.

I was a teacher who took all marking and prep home with me and worked til the early hours after my 3 children were in bed. They did after school club on staff meeting night. It had a lifelong impact on my physical and mental health but we had a secure home and food on the table. So we were all in our respective schools/nurseries at the same time then all at home together. So earning all of the money, doing all homework, hobbies, night get ups with the little one, housework, laundry, shopping, cooking, then doing a full time demanding job.

I don't know where you get 'butter' from? My career has done well, my children are happy and settled, I bought a lovely home (genuinely all by myself) and eventually met someone lovely after a number of years and am very happily married.

It's just a bit self indulgent to describe yourself as doing it alone. Doing it alone would have meant you were the one bringing every last penny into the house, whilst pregnant, looking after a toddler and doing all housework etc.

Anyway, I agree with previous posters saying have a family day out.

You sound absolutely incredible! People like you inspire me and reading this I’m in absolute awe. Women can do just about anything. Your kids must be proud!

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