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AIBU?

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Do you believe there's another realm and medium's can tap into it?

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Julia2016 · 11/02/2025 09:28

I do. I believe the energy of the dead never dies, it is with us but in another realm. Sometimes it comes through to our realm. AIBU?

I am a bit sceptical about medium's though. Interested to hear other people's view on this.

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Dotjones · 11/02/2025 13:54

I believe most mediums are dishonest and know they can't contact "another realm". There are a few who probably believe they can so aren't being dishonest, but they still can't.

I am prepared to believe that there could be another realm. It can't be proved either way, but I'm not so arrogant in my belief in humanity to think that our scientific knowledge is complete and accurate. Most scientists don't even believe that.

If you accept that something may exist in the absence of proof, you have to accept that there could be one or many parallel universes out there, or an afterlife. That's not the same as believing there is, just that it's a theory that isn't proved or completely disproved at this point in time.

It's like believing there is intelligent alien life elsewhere in the universe. There probably is, but as yet there is no proof. Until there is concrete proof, nobody can say. The universe is so big that I find it highly likely there is life out there. The fact we haven't found it yet doesn't mean much, given that humans have only existed for a few hundred thousand years, have only left drawings and written records for a much shorter period. If aliens visited us 100,000 years ago and left no evidence, we wouldn't know about it today. The same with radio messages and so on, we've only been broadcasting and receiving messages in a relatively limited form for the last 150 years or less. Given the huge distances of space, it's likely that no terrestrial broadcast will have reached another civilization. Even if it had, that civilization would have to be advanced enough to receive (and translate), and to respond to it. Put another way, any radio broadcasts directed at Earth have only had the potential to be understandable if they arrived in the last century or so. Out of all human history that is no time at all.

What I won't do is pay much attention to people who make claims about an afterlife (or alien life) with no firm evidence. Some may be right, but there are so many contradictions, they probably aren't all right.

PenneyFouryourthoughts · 11/02/2025 14:02

Mediums are cranks. Best ignored.

There's no such thing as a soul or spirit. There's no other realms or dimensions (physics hasn't got there yet). Once you die, everything that made you a person dies too.

I'm an atheist.

SorcererGaheris · 11/02/2025 14:17

PrimitivePerson · 11/02/2025 13:31

How much are you paying them?

The spiritualist church typically doesn't take payment. It's free to attend regular spiritualist church services and the mediums who demonstrate at those are doing so free of charge for the work.

Sometimes the church will hold an Evening of Clairvoyance in which a medium (from outside the community) comes and the entire event is a demonstration of mediumship. (This is different to a regular spiritualist church service in which the first part of the service is hymns and readings, and the last 45 minutes or so is a medium (from the church community) demonstrating their mediumship. The Evening of Clairvoyance will be an entire two hours or so of mediumship, but it would typically cost something like £5 for non-Church members and be a bit cheaper for members of the Church. The cost is at least partially to help recoup the medium's travel expenses (for fuel, etc) as at these events, the mediums generally come from farther afield.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 11/02/2025 14:20

I'll believe it when there's evidence for it. At the moment, no, I don't believe it.

Locutus2000 · 11/02/2025 14:23

PenneyFouryourthoughts · 11/02/2025 14:02

Mediums are cranks. Best ignored.

There's no such thing as a soul or spirit. There's no other realms or dimensions (physics hasn't got there yet). Once you die, everything that made you a person dies too.

I'm an atheist.

Edited

I'm an atheist.

Not sure you needed to add that 😂Team science here.

SorcererGaheris · 11/02/2025 14:28

Locutus2000 · 11/02/2025 14:23

I'm an atheist.

Not sure you needed to add that 😂Team science here.

Well, to be fair, being an atheist doesn't mean disbelief in a spirit realm. Atheism is just a disbelief in deities.

One can still be an atheist and believe in a spirit world, an afterlife, and all manner of spirits that aren't Gods. I've indeed met some atheists who believe in ghosts and an afterlife. Some practicing witches are atheists.

Granted, I do think that the majority of atheists probably also don't believe in any of the things I mentioned. But that's in addition to their atheism, not because of it. Since atheism is just a disbelief in Gods, then one can believe in anything/everything else spiritual and still be a proper atheist.

wherearemypastnames · 11/02/2025 14:29

Does a human have a soul? I don't know. What would it be beyond some bio/chem/physical property ? Does it exist outside of the person? Outside of the people who knew the person ?

Can mediums tap into something - no

HauntedBungalow · 11/02/2025 14:32

I knew you were going to say that.

coxesorangepippin · 11/02/2025 14:32

To an extent yes

I definitely believe in energies

100A · 11/02/2025 14:44

It's actually quite arrogant to state 'other realms do not exist, period.' You can argue that there is no definitive proof for these, sure, but equally there is no definitive evidence to prove they do not exist. The fact is, whatever people want to believe, nobody knows.

PenneyFouryourthoughts · 11/02/2025 14:47

To clarify, I am an atheist but I don't believe in any of that nonsense either and I certainly don't believe we have a soul or spirit. I am Team Science!

Comedycook · 11/02/2025 14:49

I have no idea if there's any afterlife or not.. I remain open minded. I do wonder where our consciousness goes once we die. I have seen two relatives who had died and it's such a strange feeling. Their body is there but they are not...it really did make me wonder if "we" as in our soul goes somewhere else.

But regardless, if there is a spiritual realm or something else, I certainly don't believe in mediums or spiritualists. They are con men/women. I went to see one once...it was such a load of shit... totally generic crap was told to me...I felt like laughing in her face.

SorcererGaheris · 11/02/2025 14:53

Many occultists, witches, pagans and spirit workers are Team Science as well...we don't see science as something that's in opposition to us and our practice.

crinkletits · 11/02/2025 15:03

I've only met 2 people that I thought genuinely were able to. Out of many many people who say they are. I've also seen one ghost.

pictoosh · 11/02/2025 19:21

'spirit workers'

fgs

BoldBlueZebra · 11/02/2025 19:38

i think all of the energy that makes me me must go somewhere, when someone close to me died I saw them very soon after they passed and it still felt like them as if they were in the room but later in the chapel of rest ‘they’ had gone and it was just a body, not the most eloquent explanation but I can’t describe it any other way. So while I believe that 99.9% of mediums are total con artists I do believe that every so often the universe blips and someone comes along who can ‘channel’ energy to cross the divide

LostInAMist · 11/02/2025 19:46

I don't believe. I've had enough of this life, the thought of carrying on again after death is scary and mega depressing!
Like a pp said, the energy we have is converted into something else that remains in this world, be it light, heat, nutrition for other living things etc. Memories can live on, and in that sense a spirit can, if they are fond memories and you continue that person's values/traditions etc. I think mediums are just very good people readers and can prey on the vulnerable desperate for comfort and closure, who probably give off "tells" they don't realise that these people exploit

FlatErica · 11/02/2025 19:47

No. It's nonsense.

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SushiWarrior · 11/02/2025 19:49

Mediums don’t tap into another realm, they tap into vulnerable gullible people who are grieving and exploit their pain for money.

It’s all batshit.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 11/02/2025 19:50

No, it's made-up nonsense!

constantlylactating · 11/02/2025 20:04

I definitely don't believe in mediums, at all.

I am however a bit 'woo' otherwise, and do believe in SOMETHING after death. As a pp said, it brings me great comfort.

I was very close to my nan, she died 3 years ago. I fully believe it was her that got me through some difficult times in my pregnancy last year. It could of course have been my hormones going haywire, but I choose to believe she was by my side when I needed her.

SorcererGaheris · 11/02/2025 22:47

pictoosh · 11/02/2025 19:21

'spirit workers'

fgs

It's a term that's commonly used in pagan, witchcraft and occult circles (which I am involved in) to describe those who engage in practices that involve attempting to/making contact with spirits (of all kinds.) That doesn't mean that all of them do it as their full time paid job (though some do) - for some it's work that they do in their spare time by themselves because they enjoy the practice of making that connection. After all, 'work' is defined as anything that someone puts mental or physical effort into, so it's an apt description.

pictoosh · 12/02/2025 07:47

So is 'egotistical fantasists'.

Gnarab24 · 12/02/2025 08:11

Went to see a medium recently with a friend (I was her wing man) was quite clear the only thing these people tap into is social media.

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