Do you divide up the cost per person or per rooom?

[NatureNatur]

Friend is hiring a house abroad for a big birthday (v short plane away) Around 5 couples going, and 3 singletons. It's for 4 days.

I have confirmed I am going, but said my DH will have to see closer to the time. We have young kids and no family who could have them for longer than one night really. Elderly or unwilling family either side.

Just had the cost through and it's £400 per person. I had thought it would be worked out by room - e.g. I can just pay to have a bedroom and if DH joins for one night - all good as he would be in my room. Was I unreasonable to presume this?

But it's costed per person - so would be £800 for a room, and the singletons pay £400 for their room.

Is this fair? Of course we can't justify DH paying £400 for one night so I'm going to need to say that and then i gues costs are going to go up for everyone so ppl aren't going to be happy and DH just stays home.

Do you divide up the overall cost by person or by bedroom?

Exactly!
Forget about the rooms. You're splitting the holiday cost. As long as everyone has a bed and someone's not on the sofa it's the only fair way.

@LittleBigHead

Single people generally get the worst rooms or no private room at all.
Yes they would typically get the smaller room because it's for them only. A couple get a bigger room because they have to share. So everyone gets the same amount of space.

And if everyone is paying the same then it makes sense that two people sharing would get a bigger room as they have to share that bigger space between the two of them

@mrsm43s
But you aren't just paying for a room. You are paying for a villa. So you are paying for the kitchen and bathrooms, living area and all the facilities

Why would you be paying half as much for this stuff as a single person?

Added to which no bills has equally sized rooms. Couples will get a bigger room. If you want to pay the same amount as a couple as a single person the. You'd have to be ready to accept you'll be as likely to have to smallest room as the single person.

But there is only a finite number of rooms in the villa.

@JimHalpertsWife yes you could say that, but why would you?

Because a double sized private space to yourself is nicer and more luxurious than half a shared space, obviously. Why do singles not see that.

Assuming all rooms are equal (and I've repeatedly said that different pricing for different rooms based on size and facilities is fine).

Two people sharing a room should pay the same as any two other people sharing a room, regardless of relationship status.

Two people having two separate rooms should pay more than two people sharing a room between them, because they are getting much more than two people sharing a room.

If you took it upon yourself to be the person organising and researching the villa you could find one that had as many bedrooms as you like.

But why do people who don't wish to share think its OK to dictate that two people (any two, regardless of relationship status) aren't allowed to save money by sharing a room if they want to? (and thereby bringing the villa costs down for everyone)

Don't share if you don't want to, but it is unreasonable to expect 2 people in 2 rooms to not pay more than 2 people sharing one room.

It's not to do with being single or being married. It's to do with sharing a room between two, or having two rooms for two people.

Anyone who expects two rooms for 2 people at the same cost as one room shared between two people is selfish and greedy and expecting others to subsidise them.

Anyone who thinks that someone sharing a room with another person should get the rental for free is selfish and greedy and expecting a free ride.

But just keep ignoring the point being made that the price of a holiday rental is not just about bedrooms.

Nobody is dictating anything, it’s a holiday invite, go or don’t go.

If the way it’s been arranged by the person doing all the planning, researching and organising isn’t to your liking just don’t go, or organise something yourself another time.

If anyone I invited on holiday moaned this much about it I’d rather they just stayed home tbh, they’d soon start complaining about having to split a joint food shop per person or moaning that someone used an extra slice of bread.

I don’t think group holidays are for you if you’re unable to work this out.

It should be split per head. You are sharing a house so you need to factor in that you are all sharing the living room, kitchen, bathroom, cooking facilities, electric etc. Its only fair all adults pay the same however couples should get the bigger rooms if they are sharing.

But no one has suggested that. No one at all.

All people are suggesting is that two people in two rooms should pay more than two people sharing a room.

If everyone is paying the same, then each adult needs to get the same. So that is either everyone getting one room per person, or everyone sharing and getting half a room per person. I'm happy with either.

What's not reasonable is some people think that some people should get one room per person for the same price as others get half a room per person. It's very greedy to expect to get double for the same price.

The whole kitchen/bathroom/living room etc is a red herring.

Two people in two rooms is TWO lots of kitchen/bathroom/living room PLUS two rooms

Two people one room is TWO lots of kitchen/bathroom/living room PLUS only one room.

The people in the second group should obviously pay less per person that the people in the first group - because they are getting less.

No, you have said that you object to paying "double" for "twice as many people".

Which clearly implies that you think that someone sharing a room with a partner should have access to all the facilities of the rental without paying their fair share.

I bet when you go out to dinner you insist on splitting the bill equally even though you had 3 courses + wine when everyone else just had a main and soft drink, because that's "fair".

@mrsm43s but nobody is getting half a room per person. These a couples, in the OP. I wouldn't describe being in "half a room" when I'm sharing with my partner. Everyone is getting a room and sharing the same facilities.

Of course 2 people in one room are getting half a room each compared to 2 people in 2 rooms who get a whole room each.

Bonkers (and mathematically incorrect) to suggest otherwise.

I'm perfectly fine for everyone to pay per person as long as every person shares a room.

No, I'm saying that two people having two rooms (the three course dinner and wine) shouldn't pay the same as two people only having one room (the main and soft drink).

Two people only want one room - they only pay for one room.
Two people want two rooms -they pay for two rooms. They don't get to expect to split the bill equally with the people who are only getting one room.

Selfish, selfish people who want more than they pay for at someone else's expense. Nothing at all to do with relationship status, all to do with people who think other's should subsidise part of their bill and who want to get more for less.

So charge £100 per room flat rate then it's £100 more for each person inside that room

Single rooms pay 200
Doubles pay 300

The first 100 is the flat rate for the communal areas and the additional 100pp is for a bed (or a share of a bed)

Very difficult to be ‘fair’ when there are so many variables potentially affecting the value of the bedrooms - size, how well appointed, en-suite or not, balcony or not, single, double, twin, bunk or (god forbid!) sofa bed.

A singleton would be livid if paying the same price for a single sofa bed in the corner of a room, as one half of a couple sharing a luxury double en-suite room.

So I’m team price per room.

I do a lot of group holidays with an extended group of friends.

We always split 50% of the cost per head and 50% per room. Food is per head obviously but for the accommodation that means a singleton in their own room pays 75% of what a couple pay between them for a room. Two singietons sharing a twin room pay the same each as a couple sharing a double. This makes sense to us because the bedroom is not where you spend most of your time.

Twist all you like, you are basically just trying to justify having a holiday on a buy one, get one free basis and ripping your mates off in the process.

Anyone else more annoyed with the OP wt this point for not forcing accomodation info out of her friend for us?

Not twisting it. Just saying pay for what you get and not don't expect others to subsidise you.

Want a room to yourself? Pay for a room for yourself.
Happy to share a room? Pay the shared room rate.

Don't expect to pay the shared room rate and get a private room all to yourself. Or charge other people the private room rate and then expect them to bunk up 2 to a room with no discount to subsidise your private room and save you money.

How on earth are you justifying to yourself that 2 people getting 2 rooms should pay the same as 2 people getting only one room?

This seems like a fair way of doing it, providing the single room is not some sort of broom cupboard.

"Just saying pay for what you get and not don't expect others to subsidise you"

Exactly. Got there in the end. No freebies for partners.

1 person = 1 equal share of the cost.

2 people = 2 equal shares.

Note the word "equal".