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Starting to get this horrible feeling I’m being used by dh and my in laws.

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Zaina89 · 08/02/2025 17:56

so it’s a long story but I’m basically starting to get this feeling I am being “used” by my in laws and even in some ways by dh. Need some advice as to whether I am being unreasonable here and I am just over thinking all of this or if my feelings are valid.

Ive been married to dh for 10 years ( 11 in September!) we have 3 children, 9,7 and 15 months. Dh is Pakistani and I am british but a Muslim revert ( reverted before I met my husband so not for marriage) when I got married I basically knew nothing but I have adapted the culture and changed everything about myself as I’ve always wanted to impress my husband and his family. I learned how to cook all Pakistani food, I used to wear Abaya and Hijab, long dresses and skirts but when I got married started wearing shalwar kameez as my husband liked it. Even my personality I have changed things, my husband was born in Pakistan and so where his family so very traditional, I work very hard at home and with the children.

but it just feels any thing I do is not good enough, up until the recent weeks I have never seen an issue with how they have “treated me” but for a couple of weeks I have just started with this awful feeling I’m just being used by all of them if I’m honest.

a couple of examples, they don’t even say hi to me when they come and meet me at my house or anywhere ( sister in law does but pretty much no one else) they do talk to me but never say hi or how are you ( only when they want something).
my husband technically just expects me to take everything what his mother says to me and not question her. Whilst she was visiting in December she told me “ you had the perfect family with a boy and a girl before why did you plan a 3rd baby” when her baby granddaughter was innocently playing in front of us, told dh during that time and he said she must have said it because “ you complain to much how the baby is such hard work” and make excuses for how his mother treats me.

today my brother in law moved house ( the next street to ours to be exact) and his mum called this morning to tell me I should cook for everyone ( 15 people ) I cooked, served and cleaned up after everyone, no thanks,no nothing. They’ve gone now to bil and sil house to help them unpack and dh said if I wanted to come and then my sister in law responded “ but who will look after all the kids” ( my sister in laws kids are also here with mine).

I never feel involved in anything, feels like they just use me when they want something or when they want a free meal.
bil got married last year and his wife is from Pakistan and ever since then they are all for her even though I’ve been in the family for decade at this point and done so much for all of them. They absolutely love her but I just don’t get the same treatment.

dh allows all of this, whenever I tell him my feelings he brushes it off, Dh is never home, does nothing to help at home, sides with his mother when ever she does anything wrong with me.

when I gave birth to our 3rd baby he brought his mum to stay to “help” and I came home from the hospital after a really bad birth and a lot of blood loss to the older kids and the house a complete mess and she said she couldn’t clean because “ she’s too old” ( she’s 52, no health issues)
when I told my husband he said “ well what did you expect, I brought her here to look after the new baby so you can clean and do the housework”

during my birth, I was hemorrhaging after baby came out, his mum called to tell him I wasn’t in a good way and he should come. He replied with “ let the doctors deal with her” and he never came. ( I found out about this recently)

I feel like everything I’m writing is all over the place because I just don’t know how I feel anymore, I’m not happy, I’m doing housework all the time and no help with the kids and my health isn’t very good and I’m tired all the time. I just don’t know what I want to do with my life and I’m suddenly coming to realisations that i may be getting used by all of them and thinking is this what i really deserve.

OP posts:
mainecooncatonahottinroof · 09/02/2025 02:27

user1492757084 · 09/02/2025 00:39

You are exhausted.
Have a full check up with your GP to rule out any chronic low iron etc. and also ask if there are any local mother and baby groups.
Once the baby is old enough, adventure out more - go out and make more contacts. Also claim yourself more rest.
Make your every day life a more enjoyable for yourself.
Reflect on your situation compared to your friends.
Invite your SIL out for play dates and walks.

Make simple reasonable requests of your husband.
Please help me with XXX.

Help with family if YOU feel it practical and you are happy but expect a thank you. Comment - SIL, Did you not want me to care for your children? Well, a simple 'thank you' would be nice.
Let DH see you actively greet guests at your own door. You are not a slave banished to the kitchen. You stay and welcome and ask people in. Ask DH to put the kettle on.
Make changes to make your situation better.
See how you feel. How you feel about DH. Do you need more date nights?

It is right that you feel valued, equally powerful and content.

She doesn't "need more date nights"!!! She doesn't need a GP appointment, she doesn't need to invite her SIL, she doesn't need to "make simple requests of her husband" or any of the other nonsense you posted.

She needs to get out of this hideously unequal relationship!

Sugargliderwombat · 09/02/2025 04:14

username299 · 08/02/2025 18:24

This is very common in some cultures where women are seen as less than men and they're xenophobic.

They don't like you because you're not Pakistani, so I'd stop trying. I don't know why you changed everything about yourself in order to skivvy around for this family.

Your husband treats you like something on his shoe, he couldn't care less about you. The only solution to this mess is to divorce.

Pretty sure there's plenty of white brit families who wouldn't accept another culture and treat the women as skivvys.

The culture is a red herring. It's an awful way to live and the way your husband is treating you is horrible. Sounds like a you had a traumatic birth and didn't have anyone there for you, I couldn't move past that.

SulkySeagull · 09/02/2025 04:19

Sorry OP sounds awful - but I have to ask who on earth meets a man and changes their entire culture, lifestyle and way of being just to be with them? You aren’t Pakistani. You’re living a lie essentially.

Satsumamandarin · 09/02/2025 07:53

Sugargliderwombat · 09/02/2025 04:14

Pretty sure there's plenty of white brit families who wouldn't accept another culture and treat the women as skivvys.

The culture is a red herring. It's an awful way to live and the way your husband is treating you is horrible. Sounds like a you had a traumatic birth and didn't have anyone there for you, I couldn't move past that.

The culture isn't a red herring because some cultures make divorce very very difficult. Op's culture/religion is one of these. Nowadays, it's easier for white women to leave abusive relationships and say no to in laws. I'm mixed race and my white family isn't racist. My white in laws aren't racist either.

LoudSnoringDog · 09/02/2025 07:59

What a miserable read.

OP what happens / what would happen if you said "no" to the cooking/ childcare etc? If you have a fear of a consequence then this is abuse.
They are treating you literally like a slave.

My cousin married a Pakistani taxi driver that she met at the age of 16 whilst working in the taxi company as a call handler ( he was 11 years older). She converted and had 6 children in succession over what looked to be a pretty miserable few years for her.
His family treated her similarly, never accepted. He had multiple affairs etc.
it took 14 years until she was 30 before she found the courage to leave.
My family could all see what was happening, how she had changed, the suspected abuse but she continued to put up with the shit of him and his awful family. She was brainwashed by them.
Thankfully she got out. He is now dead.
You don't mention much about your own family? Can you go to them for support?

username299 · 09/02/2025 08:29

Sugargliderwombat · 09/02/2025 04:14

Pretty sure there's plenty of white brit families who wouldn't accept another culture and treat the women as skivvys.

The culture is a red herring. It's an awful way to live and the way your husband is treating you is horrible. Sounds like a you had a traumatic birth and didn't have anyone there for you, I couldn't move past that.

I'm sure there are, thankfully I didn't mention skin colour.

NovaF · 09/02/2025 08:47

Satsumamandarin · 09/02/2025 07:53

The culture isn't a red herring because some cultures make divorce very very difficult. Op's culture/religion is one of these. Nowadays, it's easier for white women to leave abusive relationships and say no to in laws. I'm mixed race and my white family isn't racist. My white in laws aren't racist either.

Divorce is not difficult in those cultures. I am mixed race English and Pakistani. There are the same rates of divorce on both sides, no taboo and the only thing frowned upon was the way the husbands treated their wives.

The religion itself states that marrying a woman is not hiring a servant, which is how this woman is treated. Her husband is supposed to care for and provide for his wife, this man could not care leas about her. Which is why the divorces were not frowned upon.

The family will absolutely make it difficult for this woman, but she should know her faith is not an obstacle for leaving if she needs to.

bluegreen89 · 09/02/2025 09:02

Appleandoranges · 08/02/2025 18:16

Also if your husband is hardly ever at home, remember there's a freedom there to live your own life!

not much freedom when you’re looking after 3 kids, a house and being a slave for extended family.

SkiingIsHeaven · 09/02/2025 10:03

I feel so sorry for you. This is no way to live.

You really need to consider your own happiness which will more than likely mean leaving them.

Good luck and stay safe.

laraitopbanana · 09/02/2025 18:02

Wow.

yeah, you need out. I am sorry you are in this situation.

Good luck op 🌺

WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 09/02/2025 18:13

You are being abused, and you need to get away. This is Pakistani culture, not British culture and your circumstances will never change. Take your children and go to your nearest citizens advice, they will put you in a safe place and then re home you and your children in accommodation away from DH and his family.
Or you can stay and continue being a slave to a man and his family who will never respect you or see you as anything other than their servant.
I hope you see sense, I really feel for you, I’ve seen this happen many times with Muslim men and their families.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 09/02/2025 18:17

Zaina89 · 08/02/2025 17:56

so it’s a long story but I’m basically starting to get this feeling I am being “used” by my in laws and even in some ways by dh. Need some advice as to whether I am being unreasonable here and I am just over thinking all of this or if my feelings are valid.

Ive been married to dh for 10 years ( 11 in September!) we have 3 children, 9,7 and 15 months. Dh is Pakistani and I am british but a Muslim revert ( reverted before I met my husband so not for marriage) when I got married I basically knew nothing but I have adapted the culture and changed everything about myself as I’ve always wanted to impress my husband and his family. I learned how to cook all Pakistani food, I used to wear Abaya and Hijab, long dresses and skirts but when I got married started wearing shalwar kameez as my husband liked it. Even my personality I have changed things, my husband was born in Pakistan and so where his family so very traditional, I work very hard at home and with the children.

but it just feels any thing I do is not good enough, up until the recent weeks I have never seen an issue with how they have “treated me” but for a couple of weeks I have just started with this awful feeling I’m just being used by all of them if I’m honest.

a couple of examples, they don’t even say hi to me when they come and meet me at my house or anywhere ( sister in law does but pretty much no one else) they do talk to me but never say hi or how are you ( only when they want something).
my husband technically just expects me to take everything what his mother says to me and not question her. Whilst she was visiting in December she told me “ you had the perfect family with a boy and a girl before why did you plan a 3rd baby” when her baby granddaughter was innocently playing in front of us, told dh during that time and he said she must have said it because “ you complain to much how the baby is such hard work” and make excuses for how his mother treats me.

today my brother in law moved house ( the next street to ours to be exact) and his mum called this morning to tell me I should cook for everyone ( 15 people ) I cooked, served and cleaned up after everyone, no thanks,no nothing. They’ve gone now to bil and sil house to help them unpack and dh said if I wanted to come and then my sister in law responded “ but who will look after all the kids” ( my sister in laws kids are also here with mine).

I never feel involved in anything, feels like they just use me when they want something or when they want a free meal.
bil got married last year and his wife is from Pakistan and ever since then they are all for her even though I’ve been in the family for decade at this point and done so much for all of them. They absolutely love her but I just don’t get the same treatment.

dh allows all of this, whenever I tell him my feelings he brushes it off, Dh is never home, does nothing to help at home, sides with his mother when ever she does anything wrong with me.

when I gave birth to our 3rd baby he brought his mum to stay to “help” and I came home from the hospital after a really bad birth and a lot of blood loss to the older kids and the house a complete mess and she said she couldn’t clean because “ she’s too old” ( she’s 52, no health issues)
when I told my husband he said “ well what did you expect, I brought her here to look after the new baby so you can clean and do the housework”

during my birth, I was hemorrhaging after baby came out, his mum called to tell him I wasn’t in a good way and he should come. He replied with “ let the doctors deal with her” and he never came. ( I found out about this recently)

I feel like everything I’m writing is all over the place because I just don’t know how I feel anymore, I’m not happy, I’m doing housework all the time and no help with the kids and my health isn’t very good and I’m tired all the time. I just don’t know what I want to do with my life and I’m suddenly coming to realisations that i may be getting used by all of them and thinking is this what i really deserve.

It's because you're not a Pakistani and you never will be darling.
This situation will never change.
I'm saying this with a pure heart, not to be harsh or unfair.
No matter how much you adapt you will be a second class citizen to them.
They love SIL because she's from home.

You have to choose whether you want to remain in your life as it is and put up with it forever (also bringing your children up in that environment), or (in my opinion the best option) plan to leave. However I'm concerned that this will bring you a horrible situation.

Please don't stay. They will not change.

DollyLeggs · 09/02/2025 18:19

I'm sorry that you fell in love with the wrong person. He doesn't deserve you. BUT you deserve a life of happiness with your children. Plan and get out of there. Be strong. Very, very strong. There will be no going back.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 09/02/2025 18:21

WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 09/02/2025 18:13

You are being abused, and you need to get away. This is Pakistani culture, not British culture and your circumstances will never change. Take your children and go to your nearest citizens advice, they will put you in a safe place and then re home you and your children in accommodation away from DH and his family.
Or you can stay and continue being a slave to a man and his family who will never respect you or see you as anything other than their servant.
I hope you see sense, I really feel for you, I’ve seen this happen many times with Muslim men and their families.

@Zaina89 or contact women's aid. They are also very good for help to get out of abusive living. They helped my friend and she literally had to leave her house with her kids at a time where she couldn't take anything with her but she had to get out for officials removed her ex from the property.

Whose house do you live in?

You will be helped x

Please keep talking to us on here

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 09/02/2025 18:30

Are you have a laugh???

She's being abused, it's like modern day slavery really.
There's no date night that will ever excuse this behaviour and quite frankly (and I think I I speak for a few others here) your advice here is a load of 💩.
I'm never rude to anyone and I apologise for being rude but (I know, not a true apology) you clearly haven't understood her post. She's being cunted off left right and centre and her husband is down with it all. She is not a valid member of the family.

Seriously mate.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 09/02/2025 18:31

Zaina89 · 08/02/2025 18:09

He didn’t want to be there for the birth, says it is too “traumatic” for him. I gave birth at 6am and he didn’t turn up until 1pm, dropped the older kids off at school and went to work. He came to the hospital to see me and the baby in his work clothes and builders shoes. Only stayed for 20minutes and then left my mum to be with me and baby.

I guess I loved him, but I’m really not sure of that anymore with how everything is going.

Where's your mum now Zaina?

Iceboy80 · 09/02/2025 18:34

What do you expect in that culture, seriously?

envbeckyc · 09/02/2025 18:46

Regardless of heritage and culture which the OP refers to in her post, she is treated terribly and without respect.

She has two daughters and a son who will see how dreadfully OP is treated and therefore have similar expectations for themselves which is not acceptable! It’s time to end the inter generational misogyny, and ask yourself would you behave like that to a daughter in law, or allow your daughters to be treated like that?

Like many other posters on this thread, this is not a marriage OP it’s servitude and you and your children deserve better!

I would contact an organisation for advice on how to safely leave this relationship!

Abuse is abuse… please get out now!

Sunshineandoranges · 09/02/2025 18:59

Why would any woman living in the uk in 2021 live like a traditional ( backward imo) family in Pakistan. Plus I suspect your mil resents that you are not Pakistani. Your situation with young children is difficult. I hope someone can share ways you can improve your situation. You are doing everything you can but are being treated badly.

Laylay100 · 09/02/2025 19:06

I'm a revert too (sort of- grew up with Christian mum and muslim dad and was left to pick for myself) and I am horrified to read your post.
I once was engaged to a Pakistani guy (born here) and I could not accept the cultural change even though we are both Muslim. Their culture is so different (my dad was north African) and often goes against the teachings of our religion. I hope he can see that one day and put you first. Don't change yourself any longer, I could have never worn Pakistani dress (and I wear abayahs). Concentrate on yourself <3

LuckyPombear · 09/02/2025 19:21

Hi,

I am Muslim born, not Pakistani though and growing up in EU, married with a Muslim from a Muslim country.
The first thing I would say in your situation is the difference of culture which is why your DH is acting like that and your mil as well. And probably seeing their new sil from Pakistan just remind them their culture.

But there’s other things that don’t sounds good, like your mil asking you why you had a 3rd baby? That’s nothing to do with the culture, you should ask her why she thinks you shouldn’t and how many children she have herself?
Dont saying hello that’s not cultural either but a form of exclusion.

You should stand for yourself don’t try to change to please them, wear what you like, be yourself and put your limits from now.
I have always put limits to my DH even thought now I understand what’s part of culture better even if I don’t share this with him and his family.

That was not easy but with time he eventually changed and now there’s more balance. I will just mention that I don’t have any different with my mil and sil as they live abroad and they try to be nice and please me when we visit them.

The hard part for you is your fil and the easiest way is probably to move far from them.

LuckyPombear · 09/02/2025 19:29

RedPandaLove · 08/02/2025 21:49

This just sounds like a typical Muslim man and his family to be honest. Very old fashioned, backward and misogynistic beliefs. You couldn’t pay me to marry a Muslim man, the women are treated like second class, controlled and it seems the fact you’re not Pakistani born makes them view you as even less than your SIL. They usually keep to their own and it seems frowned upon to even marry a white woman.

That’s totally wrong, lots of men are selfish in many culture and religion.. how many thread I read in Mumsnet where women were complaining about their DH’s selfish behaviour.

That’s a bit racist to generalise this to all Muslim men, do you think there’s not such a thing in white families when a white marry a brown person?

Scirocco · 09/02/2025 19:30

Iceboy80 · 09/02/2025 18:34

What do you expect in that culture, seriously?

I have Pakistani relatives and honestly, none of them would act like this or tolerate this from others. What people should and do expect is a heck of a lot better than this.

BoredZelda · 09/02/2025 19:35

Woman joins "traditional" family and is treated like a slave: shocker!

Leave. That's all you can do if you don't want to be in that position. It won't change, he won't change, if you stay, you won't change.

BoredZelda · 09/02/2025 19:36

Unfortunately this isn't uncommon with Pakistani muslim families.

This isn't uncommon in any "traditional" family be it Pakistani Muslim or White Christian.

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