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Starting to get this horrible feeling I’m being used by dh and my in laws.

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Zaina89 · 08/02/2025 17:56

so it’s a long story but I’m basically starting to get this feeling I am being “used” by my in laws and even in some ways by dh. Need some advice as to whether I am being unreasonable here and I am just over thinking all of this or if my feelings are valid.

Ive been married to dh for 10 years ( 11 in September!) we have 3 children, 9,7 and 15 months. Dh is Pakistani and I am british but a Muslim revert ( reverted before I met my husband so not for marriage) when I got married I basically knew nothing but I have adapted the culture and changed everything about myself as I’ve always wanted to impress my husband and his family. I learned how to cook all Pakistani food, I used to wear Abaya and Hijab, long dresses and skirts but when I got married started wearing shalwar kameez as my husband liked it. Even my personality I have changed things, my husband was born in Pakistan and so where his family so very traditional, I work very hard at home and with the children.

but it just feels any thing I do is not good enough, up until the recent weeks I have never seen an issue with how they have “treated me” but for a couple of weeks I have just started with this awful feeling I’m just being used by all of them if I’m honest.

a couple of examples, they don’t even say hi to me when they come and meet me at my house or anywhere ( sister in law does but pretty much no one else) they do talk to me but never say hi or how are you ( only when they want something).
my husband technically just expects me to take everything what his mother says to me and not question her. Whilst she was visiting in December she told me “ you had the perfect family with a boy and a girl before why did you plan a 3rd baby” when her baby granddaughter was innocently playing in front of us, told dh during that time and he said she must have said it because “ you complain to much how the baby is such hard work” and make excuses for how his mother treats me.

today my brother in law moved house ( the next street to ours to be exact) and his mum called this morning to tell me I should cook for everyone ( 15 people ) I cooked, served and cleaned up after everyone, no thanks,no nothing. They’ve gone now to bil and sil house to help them unpack and dh said if I wanted to come and then my sister in law responded “ but who will look after all the kids” ( my sister in laws kids are also here with mine).

I never feel involved in anything, feels like they just use me when they want something or when they want a free meal.
bil got married last year and his wife is from Pakistan and ever since then they are all for her even though I’ve been in the family for decade at this point and done so much for all of them. They absolutely love her but I just don’t get the same treatment.

dh allows all of this, whenever I tell him my feelings he brushes it off, Dh is never home, does nothing to help at home, sides with his mother when ever she does anything wrong with me.

when I gave birth to our 3rd baby he brought his mum to stay to “help” and I came home from the hospital after a really bad birth and a lot of blood loss to the older kids and the house a complete mess and she said she couldn’t clean because “ she’s too old” ( she’s 52, no health issues)
when I told my husband he said “ well what did you expect, I brought her here to look after the new baby so you can clean and do the housework”

during my birth, I was hemorrhaging after baby came out, his mum called to tell him I wasn’t in a good way and he should come. He replied with “ let the doctors deal with her” and he never came. ( I found out about this recently)

I feel like everything I’m writing is all over the place because I just don’t know how I feel anymore, I’m not happy, I’m doing housework all the time and no help with the kids and my health isn’t very good and I’m tired all the time. I just don’t know what I want to do with my life and I’m suddenly coming to realisations that i may be getting used by all of them and thinking is this what i really deserve.

OP posts:
Peaceandquietandacuppa · 08/02/2025 20:26

Zaina89 · 08/02/2025 18:09

He didn’t want to be there for the birth, says it is too “traumatic” for him. I gave birth at 6am and he didn’t turn up until 1pm, dropped the older kids off at school and went to work. He came to the hospital to see me and the baby in his work clothes and builders shoes. Only stayed for 20minutes and then left my mum to be with me and baby.

I guess I loved him, but I’m really not sure of that anymore with how everything is going.

If you’re not ready to leave him, or chuck him out, then at the very least start saying NO. What example is this to your daughter????

Scirocco · 08/02/2025 20:28

Assalamu alaikum sister.

This is not Islam. This is abusive. This is unacceptable.

What they're showing you is that they don't care about or respect you, and that's not something that's likely to change. Islamically, you would be within your rights to walk away.

Marriage is a partnership in which two people can grow, both together and as individuals. You shouldn't have to erase yourself and anyone who is worth being married to, wouldn't ask you to do that. Anyone worth being married to, also wouldn't let their family treat you like this.

Your children will pick up on the environment around them and how people around them treat each other. Is this what you want them to see as normal and acceptable as a blueprint for their future relationships?

Is your marriage legally recognised in the UK? That would impact upon how easy or difficult it will be to get out of this situation with your legal and Islamic rights intact. Do you still have your mehr? Is your husband on the children's birth certificates?

There are several good links already posted that you may find helpful. You might also want to consider speaking with an alimah at your local mosque - insha'Allah they can guide you towards more local resources and lawyers with experience relevant to your situation. The Muslim Mumsnetters board might also have advice and support.

TrainGame · 08/02/2025 20:29

I've seen a Pakistani woman who lives next door to us slide so badly downhill married to her husband. He's awful. Had affairs, treats her like shit, sides with his Mum, goes off regularly and leaves her to deal with the children.

She looks so depressed.

The culture is most oppressively patriarchal. It's a horror. What on earth made you want to be part of this OP?

I trust you grew up with good role models and British women who were ambitious and believed in equality?

I'm really sorry this has happened to you. Yes you are dogsbody, bottom of the pecking order and it sounds like they bully and gaslight you.

They don't appreciate you at all.

I would personally make a plan to leave and do it all in secret.

The culture has a horrific set of past murders when families split so you need to be exceptionally careful.

You could have a much better and happier life.

Do you have any qualifications so you could start to work.

Imagine the sense of purpose and freedom you'd feel earning your own money and having some agency over your life and what happens to you, instead of having to wait from the crumbs from this horrible lot.

Yolo12345 · 08/02/2025 20:33

Take your children and go to your parents. Tell them your thoughts. They will have been waiting for this. Get ready to negotiate with your husband. He has to learn what his behaviour is risking - divorce.

Beeloux · 08/02/2025 20:43

I married Arab XH at 22. The similarities between what I experienced and yourself are very close.

My XH tried to completely change me to be a perfect Muslim wife. Meanwhile he drank and cheated. Remember we once went to a family gathering where he made me wear an abaya to please his family while his Arab Muslim cousins paraded around on hot pants and crop tops.

Looking back he 100% used me for the visa. As soon as he moved over here he became awful. I found out after we married that all of his girlfriends before me had been middle aged woman with UK/USA citizenship.

He also moved his mother in after we married and she used to make up lies about me and treat me awfully.

If you separate beware there is very little that the UK family courts/police can do to protect yourself from DH taking your kids to Pakistan without your consent. This is because Pakistan isn’t a member of The Hague convention. Also be wary that he could most likely apply for Pakistani passports via his embassy for the kids without your consent. Don’t mean to worry you but it’s something to think about!

Praying4Peace · 08/02/2025 20:44

My heart goes out to you OP. I wouldn't even know where to begin with how to unravel all this and make changes . It seems highly unlikely that your husband and family will ever change. You will need emotional and practical support to get out of this situation; separation/separate housing with kids. Please make enquiries locally for resources that will help you navigate this. You sound like an amazing lady; all on MN are supporting you

TheBossOfMe · 08/02/2025 20:47

Gymnopedie · 08/02/2025 18:18

You share a religion but you don't share a culture. They put up with you because you gave them grandchildren, but you were always an outlier. Now that BIL has married what they perceive to be a much more acceptable nice Pakistani girl they're showing you what they really think.

You've bent and twisted yourself to fit in and it's got you nowhere except turning you into a shell of who you used to be. You need to start standing up for yourself. I don't think you can make things any worse by doing that. I'd like to say leave. But I know that the religion and culture mean they won't let you go without a fight and a nasty one at that.

I hope you find a way through this.

This.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 08/02/2025 20:49

It’s not okay for them to treat you like this. I don’t think you can do much about it other than to leave. I wouldn’t let them know you’re thinking about it. Just secretly start making preparations.

EdithBond · 08/02/2025 20:50

You poor thing. You sound thoroughly worn down, unvalued and unloved.

Your DH sounds awful. Terribly sexist and seems to have no respect for you. If either of your elder two are sons, he’s setting them a very bad example. Mothers should be respected and cherished, not treated as house slaves.

What does your DH bring to your life? If you do everything at home and for the kids, would your life really be any harder if you were on your own with the kids? Do you have the support of your family? Do you have close friends of your own?

How would you feel if your DD was being treated the way you are? What advice would you give her?

I’d start to plan a way out for you and the kids. You don’t have to make any rash decisions but start to plan. That should include getting the real you back. Find out about your rights. Southall Black Sisters are a wonderful organisation and have a national helpline. Once your youngest starts school nursery it’ll be much easier to work. Maybe you could look into getting a job in a school, so you can look after the kids in the holidays.

In the meantime, forget how your PILs treat you. Their problem, not yours, if they’re ill-mannered and disrespectful.

https://southallblacksisters.org.uk/

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 08/02/2025 20:55

I too recommend Southall Black Sisters, which is why I asked if you live in England or Pakistan.

OrangePeel2 · 08/02/2025 20:59

"Let the doctor's deal with her" - oh no, you poor thing, this is terrible. You are worth so much more. You should have had a caring partner, being with you and worried for you and loving you.

MissUltraViolet · 08/02/2025 21:03

OP you are being abused by your husband...and his family. You deserve so much more, you and your children. You are neither loved nor respected.

Please find a way to escape all of this.

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/02/2025 21:04

You have three options.

  • continue as you are being treated like a slave, disrespected and ignored. Your children will be raised to treat you the same way and female children will be pushed into living the same life you're living now.
  • pretend to continue as you are but actually start to push back subtly - look up the 'weaponised incompetence' men use to get away with doing fuck all. So if they make you cook, make sure you don't cook quite enough, oh and it all tastes burnt/too salty/etc... enough of that and they will stop asking. Same applies to every job they ask you to do, you do it slowly, partially, badly, but LOOK willing, don't look like you're refusing!! Other tactics (like your MIL 'oh I am too old' skit) include being too 'ill' to do anything and taking to your bed often and dramatically.
  • leave - with all that that entails and danger to yourself, there are ways to do it but it isn't something to rush into.

This is pretty much what you signed up for, and in changing yourself to please his family you have done yourself no favours. The bottom line is, you're not Pakistani, you never will be and you will therefore always be 'second class' (or worse) in their eyes.

Nazzywish · 08/02/2025 21:06

Zaina89 · 08/02/2025 17:56

so it’s a long story but I’m basically starting to get this feeling I am being “used” by my in laws and even in some ways by dh. Need some advice as to whether I am being unreasonable here and I am just over thinking all of this or if my feelings are valid.

Ive been married to dh for 10 years ( 11 in September!) we have 3 children, 9,7 and 15 months. Dh is Pakistani and I am british but a Muslim revert ( reverted before I met my husband so not for marriage) when I got married I basically knew nothing but I have adapted the culture and changed everything about myself as I’ve always wanted to impress my husband and his family. I learned how to cook all Pakistani food, I used to wear Abaya and Hijab, long dresses and skirts but when I got married started wearing shalwar kameez as my husband liked it. Even my personality I have changed things, my husband was born in Pakistan and so where his family so very traditional, I work very hard at home and with the children.

but it just feels any thing I do is not good enough, up until the recent weeks I have never seen an issue with how they have “treated me” but for a couple of weeks I have just started with this awful feeling I’m just being used by all of them if I’m honest.

a couple of examples, they don’t even say hi to me when they come and meet me at my house or anywhere ( sister in law does but pretty much no one else) they do talk to me but never say hi or how are you ( only when they want something).
my husband technically just expects me to take everything what his mother says to me and not question her. Whilst she was visiting in December she told me “ you had the perfect family with a boy and a girl before why did you plan a 3rd baby” when her baby granddaughter was innocently playing in front of us, told dh during that time and he said she must have said it because “ you complain to much how the baby is such hard work” and make excuses for how his mother treats me.

today my brother in law moved house ( the next street to ours to be exact) and his mum called this morning to tell me I should cook for everyone ( 15 people ) I cooked, served and cleaned up after everyone, no thanks,no nothing. They’ve gone now to bil and sil house to help them unpack and dh said if I wanted to come and then my sister in law responded “ but who will look after all the kids” ( my sister in laws kids are also here with mine).

I never feel involved in anything, feels like they just use me when they want something or when they want a free meal.
bil got married last year and his wife is from Pakistan and ever since then they are all for her even though I’ve been in the family for decade at this point and done so much for all of them. They absolutely love her but I just don’t get the same treatment.

dh allows all of this, whenever I tell him my feelings he brushes it off, Dh is never home, does nothing to help at home, sides with his mother when ever she does anything wrong with me.

when I gave birth to our 3rd baby he brought his mum to stay to “help” and I came home from the hospital after a really bad birth and a lot of blood loss to the older kids and the house a complete mess and she said she couldn’t clean because “ she’s too old” ( she’s 52, no health issues)
when I told my husband he said “ well what did you expect, I brought her here to look after the new baby so you can clean and do the housework”

during my birth, I was hemorrhaging after baby came out, his mum called to tell him I wasn’t in a good way and he should come. He replied with “ let the doctors deal with her” and he never came. ( I found out about this recently)

I feel like everything I’m writing is all over the place because I just don’t know how I feel anymore, I’m not happy, I’m doing housework all the time and no help with the kids and my health isn’t very good and I’m tired all the time. I just don’t know what I want to do with my life and I’m suddenly coming to realisations that i may be getting used by all of them and thinking is this what i really deserve.

It's all awful but it's the last but where you say you were in a bad way and he didn't come to the hospital.... you have a dh problem OP. Nothing to do with their heritage or religion but everything to do with he's a awful human being and you need to start building yourself up to be independent. Its the only way and then leave him because he not your 'd' h just a arse that wants a slave. This is not islamic.

Marisislikethesunwithoutthewarmth · 08/02/2025 21:07

my partner’s cousin converted for a bloke (so a bi different to OP who chose that herself before meeting her husband). But the cousin changed everything about herself. To the point where she wouldn’t even attend her own parents’ funerals because her husband said it wasn’t allowed as considered them inferior as they were a different religion and the funeral would take place in a place of worship that was not of his religion.

she gave up clothing choices, food choices, friends, family, everything for this bloke….it was so tragic to see how she was left a former shell of the person she was.

OP I really do wish you well as I have seen so many women in this situation and I hope you can reach out to one of the women’s organisations mentioned for some advice and support.

maternitylleave102 · 08/02/2025 21:14

His family more than likely thought you would never be married and he would marry a nice Pakistani girl.

OP it will never change, it's cultural. You need to leave.

Animatic · 08/02/2025 21:28

Looks like you tried so hard to be a "good muslim" ( the way you may have seen it) after conversion that you literally accepted the unacceptable.

WaryButHopeful · 08/02/2025 21:32

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That's not true. You can't say culture and bring in religion. The religion itself states the rights of a wife and that a husband should be caring, supportive and compassionate. This includes helping around the house and treating his wife well. This was introduced in the times where even in the west this was not practiced.

However, colukture makes things difficult. I am sorry to hear that they treat you like that and deep down you know you should be treated better. Seems like they are taking it out on you and your naivety of being non Pakistani. Though if they are this way then won't be long until the new SIL will be treated in a similar fashion.

I would discuss this with your husband. I hope you have a supportive family yourself and hope that things get better. Should they not then maybe move in with family if you can.

It's a very difficult situation and they don't sound like nice people. My prayers are with you 🙏

Grammarnut · 08/02/2025 21:33

I suggest you get yourself back rather than trying to fit in with DH's family. Be you. Don't say yes to cooking and clearing up for 15 - that's outrageous! It's very, very easy to fall into this situation and fulfil the unreasonable expectations. You need to decide whether you want to continue like this or leave, because your DH is not going to change and nor is his mother.
If you decide to stay but revert to your real self, you may find that you are treated with more respect, btw. You may also find your marriage comes unstuck.💐

MsVi · 08/02/2025 21:33

What about your parents? Are they around.

Grammarnut · 08/02/2025 21:35

WaryButHopeful · 08/02/2025 21:32

That's not true. You can't say culture and bring in religion. The religion itself states the rights of a wife and that a husband should be caring, supportive and compassionate. This includes helping around the house and treating his wife well. This was introduced in the times where even in the west this was not practiced.

However, colukture makes things difficult. I am sorry to hear that they treat you like that and deep down you know you should be treated better. Seems like they are taking it out on you and your naivety of being non Pakistani. Though if they are this way then won't be long until the new SIL will be treated in a similar fashion.

I would discuss this with your husband. I hope you have a supportive family yourself and hope that things get better. Should they not then maybe move in with family if you can.

It's a very difficult situation and they don't sound like nice people. My prayers are with you 🙏

This way of treating a DiL is not specifically Muslim. You will also find it in Hindu and Sikh families, where women are also second class people, and MiL's word is law.

The only way out is not to play the game. This is likely to also end the marriage.
NB You are right about new SiL - but her expectations may be different since she comes from Pakistan.

cannynotsay · 08/02/2025 21:38

I knew before you stated that this was a Pakistani family before you mentioned it. I married into one. Seen it so many times. I'm not a revert Christian here, but the culture (not the Muslim religion) can be quite harsh to women. I think it's time to think about yourself from now on. I promise this will never ever change

mrspippa · 08/02/2025 21:39

Hi Op,

To be honest if your husband isn't going to stand up for you then your better off leaving. I'm a revert married to an Indian, but different as he was born here.
His family tried same bullshit as yours but he stands up for me and doesn't allow it otherwise I wouldn't have stayed.
Another poster said about not attending family funerals, I can't believe people actually believe things like that. When my Nan died and she was catholic my husband was a Pall Barer. My Nan really liked my husband and he respects my family have a different religion and had a great relationship with her.
Just wanted to say this to show not all people from that type of background behave the same way.
Do you have your families support?? If so then I would reach out to them.

WomenInConstruction · 08/02/2025 21:41

If Dobby the house elf heard your story he would suggest putting a sock in a book and getting your husband to accidentally give it to you.
Dark humour, but that's what your story put me in mind of. 💔
Really sorry op to hear you are valued so poorly, there are farmers who treat their livestock better than this family is treating you.

I hope there is a way out for you.