What if Sandie Peggie......... identifies as a Muslim Woman?

[eulittleb831]

I openly want to push why a male Doctor believes it to be acceptable to use an exclusively female changing room, intimidating and provoking an experienced nurse who was heavily menstruating, not that her cycle defines whether a male should be in a female changing room or not in my view. Surely the legal track of the employment tribunal would be entirely different, and his conduct would be impacting on her religious beliefs and privacy? Sandie Peggie is a white woman, is presumably not protected by any religious beliefs, but why? The Muslim community would not stand for his conduct and rightly so. Will any decision not in Ms Peggies favour be subsequently upended by Beth/Brian/Frank imposing himself on the women's changing room when a woman of colour or Muslim woman is enjoying the privacy of that space?

I wonder what happened to her from him to make her feel she couldnt look him in the eye. Seems to be she was bullied by him, him taking notes every which way about where she chose to go into the toilets or changing room

Nor will you menstruate which is totally in the female domain!!

The OP is unclear to me.

All I can make out from is the OP is upset a white man is in a white woman’s changing room, and OP thinks she would be more protected if she was a woman of colour. How? And something about Muslims being treated better although there are no Muslims in this story, just non religious white people. So why are women of colour and Muslims in this?

Have I misunderstood?

It made him sad because she wouldn't change in front of him.

In regards to the unprofessional attitude of not looking at him while discussing a patient that was because she was looking at the person who was asking her questions about the patient. He was a 3rd wheel to the conversation

Most discrimination cases rely on a comparator. We are mostly fairly comfortable accepting that "a man without a trans identity" is the comparator for "a man with a trans identity" so it seems like a fair question to me, e.g.:

SP is a woman with no known religious belief. A fair comparator might be a woman with a strongly held religious conviction that requires the privacy and dignity of separate changing spaces.

I disagree that discrimination cases rely on comparators relating to other separate forms of discrimination. If the discrimination is based on a legally protected characteristic (eg race, religion, disability, sex) it will hold up on its own merits or be compared to discrimination in its own class.

Therefore, in this particular instance the comparator should be ‘the same scenario played out in a different setting e.g changing room in a hospital etc’. The colour and religion comparison is as irrelevant as a comparison to a white woman in a wheelchair or with hearing difficulties.

I believe anyone who disagrees that the narrative wouldn’t be markedly different if SP was a Muslim or Jewish (credit to Maya F) woman is being disingenuous. Will Beth/Brian/Frank Upton impose his maleness on female changing rooms when a Fatwa/condemnation from Jewish communities is a likely consequence of not doing the decent and only acceptable thing and changing elsewhere?

We only have his word that she was doing that.

It is not normal behaviour but neither is misrepresenting your sex. He was setting her up, taking detailed notes as he knew a tribunal setting would be the eventual outcome - it is, just not in the form he wanted it to be, playing the anonymous victim. For me, the employer has failed in their duty of care, prioritising needs of deviant a deviant man over that of an experienced nurse.

My point is, that either she just wasnt looking at him because you tend to look at the patient during that situation or just looking at your notes or other equipment if someone is talking, or she felt uncomfortable being around him due to his bullying and thats why she wasnt looking at him

I dont think its particularly unusual behaviour as it happens, I dont always look at the person talking depending on the situation but it makes me feel she was bullied by him.

I dont think its particularly unusual behaviour as it happens, I dont always look at the person talking depending on the situation but it makes me feel she was bullied by him.

I think she was bullied by him and he took every opportunity to write up notes about her supposed "microaggressions".

IF she avoided his eyes it would most likely have been because she wanted to avoid any involvement with him that he could then take the wrong way. He is a crybully, and she was minimising interaction to protect herself -- IF she avoided looking at him rather than just didn't look his way, that is.