For not understanding why "populism" is seen as such a bad thing

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Is the point of democracy not to have popular support?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-fascist-nazi-song-gas-them-all-ukip-brexit-schoolfriend-dulwich-college-a7185236.html

From the article:

"Nigel Farage was proud at the height of Britain’s far right movement that his initials NF also stood for National Front, according to a close school friend who after years of silence says he now wants the public to understand more about the man.

He also claims the teenage Mr Farage sang “gas ‘em all, gas ‘em all”, a neo-Nazi song about Jewish people.

The former friend attended fee-paying Dulwich College in south London with the ex-Ukip leader in the late Seventies and early Eighties and says he has kept quiet about his memories until now, in part out of a sense of loyalty."

I always thought they were for Nazi Fucker.

Goes to show how wrong you can be.

He's appalling!

You didn't answer my question so it's still your go!
Why didn't labour put the WFA changes in their manifesto?

Why didn't the Tories put Rwanda in theirs ?

Which (checks notes) came before the election.

So you can't answer and revert to whataboutery.
Labour misled voters with their manifesto which is why their poll ratings are through the floor.
It is not just 'populist' parties who do this.
Labour have also adopted three word slogans have they not? Smash the gangs.

@TheNuthatch yep 'smash the gangs' and I'll add fastest growth in G7

On the op I agree on the question about the meaning of populism in the real world

It's a narrative from one side, but when that gets overturned it just won't be as used

Since there's talk of studying this stuff I'll go with hegemony, and how it will change

Just a note to say the OP is about populism, but some seem to be doing their best to derail and distract.

The thread is meandering along, no one's posted anything too off topic

I voted Labour and don't feel mislead.

And you didn't vote Labour anyway, so their conduct in the election campaign is as relevant to you as the Tories (and their forgetting Rwanda) is to me from the 2019 campaign.

Looks like we are just two lost souls, eh ?

Populism in this context seems to be a little bit like sexist to Nigel Tufnel ("What's wrong with being sexy ?")

I voted Labour and don't feel mislead.

Agree.

Quite a few seem to otherwise you'd not see the loss of support

Doing something because it's popular, regardless of the outcome is not good thing.

Doing something that is popular, which has a good outcome is a good thing.

Relevant to the thread if we are saying that populists mislead the public, and use three word slogans don't you think.
The op is getting stick for not reading Reform's manifesto before voting. Was there any point reading Labour's?
If Labour aren't populist, they are certainly trying to emulate them.

Ignorance and prejudice were not the only reasons people voted for Brexit.

Some people voted for reasons that weren't ignorant or prejudiced.

A significant number of people voted for those reasons and that's what swung the vote.

Not all Brexiteers are ignorant and racist, but they got the result they wanted because of a whole lot of people who are. If they are happy with that, that's fine, but they need to acknowledge who they got into bed with.

I think you're just calling that populist again because you hated the person who did it. It's just a tribal expression of "ew I hate them". It obviously wasn't compatible with the law in rUK, devolution doesn't allow for different definitions of something as fundamental as sex. Surely it would be "populist" to pretend these laws could be changed in the first place? It's just so makey uppy

You're right. Far better to prevent plebs from voting.

with this strawman argument, you're proving the PPs point:

"The tactic of setting up a strawman and knocking it down is straight out of the populist playback, BTW."

WTF is this fascist nonsense?

You just suggested we need leaders like Genghis Khan FFS.

My friend is here - a South African and lived through apartheid and says he's lived through your kind of rhetoric before - that is what apartheid politicians used to say.

Every single thing you said is straight out of the populist, fascist playbook. Shameful.