Lucy Letby.....she might actually be innocent?!

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I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

And that would have helped how? Lawyers aren’t medical experts.

The experts were unpaid. They have professional reputations at stake. They're not making things up to suit Letby's lawyers.

Yes it was. Please refer to the photos of the evidence of her notes/diaries and the testimony from her therapist.

People think she’s guilty because she’s a bit odd. She is odd but this doesn’t make her guilty of murder.

They examined the medical evidence.

No prior experience of the case, means they took a completely open unbiased approach to the evidence. Exactly as a jury is meant to.

All those who are convinced she is not guilty would you want her nursing your child? She will never be trusted again even if that is the end result. Its a huge tragic mess.

That’s not the point!

for the hard of thinking.

Once more.

If the babies were not murdered, and died of natural causes/medial negligence then no other information is relevant as the crime of murder did not happen.

I’ll trust those medical staff who worked with her who were convinced of her guilt.

The panel agreed that they would only do the work so long as they had permission to publish any findings, in Letby's favour or not.

They are scientists. They have agreed to make the reports available later this month so that other scientists can check and critique.

I will be very surprised if the prosecution finds 15 experts going the other way. One of the red flags about their statements is that they don't fit the existing scientific record of how premature babies behave. These reports will need to be scientifically robust, and I'm confident 14 disinterested world experts will produce that standard of work. Evans didn't.

And what if they were murdered bearing in mind these ‘experts’ are not privy to all the information about the circumstances?

It would be really hard to shake off the association, wouldn't it? But that doesn't make her a murderer.

But she'll probably be far too traumatized to work in that setting again. Imagine the effect on her and the publicity when a child died. There'll be no going back for her. It's a very sad story.

It's very unprofessional behaviour and a sackable offence, yes. But does it make someone guilty of murder beyond reasonable doubt?

It’s not a very difficult paper to understand for a lay person, they would not have thought his paper confirmed the prosecution line as that poster suggested. The defence was clear at least that there was no evidence for murder by air embolism. It is weird that they didn’t contact him for comment at the very least.

The big problem is that the evidence against LL looked very solid at first.

Now it doesn’t.

(Judge and jury got conviction right based on what they were told - as did those who refused her appeal.)

The medical evidence is what specifically convicted LL.

Since the trial hundreds of medics who know what they’re talking about have complained that evidence was unreliable or wrong. Doctors do argue, but they don’t come forward to trash other people’s work wholesale this often.

Miscarriages of justice take years to
fix. New evidence appears, old evidence gets discredited, science improves to remove uncertainty, or to introduce it.

Has the panel actually said she’s innocent or are they taking issue with how the medical evidence was handled? It’s not the same thing.

And whom would we believe if another panel of experts had a different view?

The whole thing is just mind boggling. I don’t know what to think. It must be incredibly painful for the victim’s parents to have this happen.

@RogueFemale unpaid does not mean unrewarded. This is a huge opportunity for them. Many professionals will work pro bono on high profile cases.

I don't believe they are "making things up". I am sure they can support their findings. I'm also sure other world leading specialists could come to different conclusions and support their findings. It's nuanced.

Ordinarily when one party presents evidence like this in a court of law, the opposing side will have the opportunity to refute it, and present their own equal evidence. There is no prepared opposition to this. LL's defence team are using the media to gain momentum. It's a strategy. It's dubious IMO and I'm surprised so many people think it is entirely credible because they aren't paying an invoice.

I think the precise opposite is true. Women are judged FAR more harshly than men when it comes to most crimes. Look at how most people know Myra Hindley’s name but many can’t remember the name Ian Brady.

I read they had emailed him but he’d not seen the email and the trial wasn’t big news in Canada.

Really? I don’t agree. They’re both household names

The panel has said that none of the babies in the case were murdered.
So they are saying not only that Lucy is innocent, but that there were no murders and no murderer.

They are saying there were even more failures by the doctors - wrong treatment given etc.

They've said they have proof the babies weren't murdered in the ways described at the trial. They've also given evidence as to the natural causes of their deaths, or the medical errors

I happen to think that she is not guilty, or at least, that there is not a "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of proof to convict her.

But I agree with you about trust. Even if she is freed on appeal, I think she will either need to be given a new identity or emigrate, or both, because there are so many people who are convinced of her guilt and will not be swayed in that by an appeal, because even if that is successful it can only conclude (pretty much by definition) that there was insufficient evidence and the convictions were hence unsafe. Often with miscarriages of justice the matter is solved when the actual murderer is identified or confesses, but in this case that isn't going to happen, because the alternatives are "LL murdered the babies" or "nobody murdered them".