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Said husband.. said friend..

146 replies

KettleOnCredit · 04/02/2025 01:00

I feel levels of disgust each time I read this. Simply writing 'my friend/ husband' would leave the reader in no confusion..

My cat has now become 'the aforementioned feline'

It smacks of people who achieved at best a grade C at GCSE English, now attempting to come across as literate and well read.

OP posts:
PickyTits · 04/02/2025 08:37

It smacks of people who achieved at best a grade C at GCSE English, now attempting to come across as literate and well read.

I only got a C in GCSE English, which had nothing to do with my being illiterate and everything to do with the childhood trauma I was suffering through at the time. Not that it matters, there are many reasons someone might only get a C for GCSE English, especially given those with SEN were often overlooked as needing more support years ago (people like you would have just scrapped them off as just being thick or illiterate I'm sure).

Being sneery about a GCSE grade and using it as a measuring stick for literacy is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. A good friend of mine didn't get any GCSEs and lived in squats growing up, and now she's just completed her PhD, I'll tell her to try not to write above her station though or try to appear too literate given her lack of GCSEs.

SidekickSylvia · 04/02/2025 08:40

It comes across as a bit pretentious, same with 'Dear Reader'. My particular bugbear is 'brought' instead of 'bought' and 'hence why'.

Diomi · 04/02/2025 08:46

I like it. It adds a bit of personality to the post. You can picture the OP speaking as you read. People are chatting on here, not writing formal reports.

CallMeDaphne · 04/02/2025 08:49

KettleOnCredit · 04/02/2025 07:38

Clearly this touched a nerve.
I'm sorry to all the posters who thought they sounded intelligent when referring to everything as 'said.'

If you are going use ellipses, it is three dots, not two…

pimplebum · 04/02/2025 08:49

Are you depressed? my daughter lashes out and is really unpleasant when she is low

looking down on others grammar or school grades is tragic

I suggest you read through the “ what’s the worst thing that that has happened to you thread “ really puts your gripe into perspective

or would you like to talk about the thing that’s really bothering you ?

Crocsake · 04/02/2025 08:55

SecretSoul · 04/02/2025 07:07

I think it’s less that OP has a gripe, and more that they have been demeaning about posters who use those words. Absolutely no need to insult their intelligence and/or literacy just because OP doesn’t like a certain word.

I have a long list of words and phrases that I have an irrational dislike of 😂 I’ve managed to refrain from being rude about people who use them…

I have to admit that bit did actually make me laugh. And I am one of those people who achieved a D in English language and literature. This was one of the less offensive insults I’ve seen on MN.

Sidebeforeself · 04/02/2025 09:15

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butterpuffed · 04/02/2025 09:17

'Said husband/said wife' etc. should only be used when one or the other has been previously mentioned, as 'previously mentioned' is what it means.

Apart from that, who cares, it's unimportant.

ItGhoul · 04/02/2025 09:30

KettleOnCredit · 04/02/2025 02:00

It's annoying and not needed either.
I do love how the poster who remarked on my lack of a full stop had to edit their own short post.
AIBU??
Honestly it's really annoys me EVERY time I read this.. 'said daughter, said husband, said dog..'
I can't be the only one. This isn't Netmums.. maybe standards have dropped..

Be annoyed as you like, but don’t expect other people to tailor their writing style to meet your personal preferences. People don’t exist to make you happy, you know. Telling them off and issuing orders makes you look absurd.

Imbusytodaysorry · 04/02/2025 09:31

Greenbottle123 · 04/02/2025 07:41

OP on a genuine note, are you ok?

She is, she is simply just a “dick”

HowDairy · 04/02/2025 09:38

@KettleOnCredit What’s your take on the use of ‘yourself’, as in “I voted for yourself” Traitors stylee? 😁

DustyMaiden · 04/02/2025 09:39

Have you tried increasing your HRT?

Frangela · 04/02/2025 09:42

TeenLifeMum · 04/02/2025 07:46

Literacy levels are massively varied. I can get upset about people trying to describe situations differently to how I would. There is a pattern of those with lower literacy trying to use long words when there’s no real need but why would you put them down? Does it make you feel superior?

we’re all different but everyone has feelings and you’re deliberately trying to be hurtful. Says a lot about your character.

Hmm. I’d see the use of ‘said’ described by the OP as akin to the incorrect use of reflexive pronouns (‘myself’, ‘yourself’ etc when it should be ‘me’ and ‘you’) — it’s an over-correction in an attempt to sound formal (though only used in written contexts). It does give a weird air of legalese to an account of what someone’s friend said to their other friend about a different friend calling her child Ginevra.

It’s considerably less irritating than the strange usage on here of ‘cue’ (often spelled ‘queue’ or ‘que’, eg ‘I went out last night in my new shoes. Queue/que Vanessa saying ‘Those are my shoes!’ Que/queue Chloe ripping them off my feet’ etc etc.

Newmumburnout · 04/02/2025 10:13

Garlicworth · 04/02/2025 02:40

It is acknowledged that the original poster, henceforth referred to as OP, objects to the use of 'said' in reference to a character already defined within the context of an anecdote being related. We concur with OP inasmuch as 'said', when used as described, represents an informal shortening of 'the aforesaid'. It is our opinion that such informal shortening demeans language and, importantly, meaning. Fully informal alternatives are, as illustrated by OP, readily available and would in most cases be more apposite to the written conversational style of a forum post.

Ruled in favour of the aforesaid OP on the matter here under consideration. This ruling does not suggest, imply or guarantee accord with the same OP on any other matter she may henceforth wish to set before us.

🤣🤣

PhyllisWallet · 04/02/2025 10:21

I’m not entirely sure what to post on the aforementioned thread about said feline anyway.

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 11:00

If nothing else, this thread has introduced me to the word queef. Didn't come across it during my GCSE English exam, but will use said word ad infinitum going forward (I hate the phrase going foward...)

PhyllisWallet · 04/02/2025 11:04

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 11:00

If nothing else, this thread has introduced me to the word queef. Didn't come across it during my GCSE English exam, but will use said word ad infinitum going forward (I hate the phrase going foward...)

How on earth have you never heard queef? Most of us have heard at least one before 😂

Waitingfordoggo · 04/02/2025 11:17

@HangryLikeTheHulk That's so true. The police-speak that annoys me the most is 'seized'. You hear it all the time when police are recounting how they dealt with a crime. I get that it's probably the most accurate word to use but it just sounds so damned dramatic.

'We entered the property at 08.00 and seized several items of interest'

JollyGreenSleeves · 04/02/2025 11:40

Waitingfordoggo · 04/02/2025 11:17

@HangryLikeTheHulk That's so true. The police-speak that annoys me the most is 'seized'. You hear it all the time when police are recounting how they dealt with a crime. I get that it's probably the most accurate word to use but it just sounds so damned dramatic.

'We entered the property at 08.00 and seized several items of interest'

They’re just using the language from the legislation that underpins their powers.

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 14:38

PhyllisWallet · 04/02/2025 11:04

How on earth have you never heard queef? Most of us have heard at least one before 😂

Edited

Clearly I've led a sheltered life!!

DemonicCaveMaggot · 04/02/2025 14:49

HangryLikeTheHulk · 04/02/2025 08:24

The police are very good at this embellished language.

“The gentleman proceeded in a westerly direction along said high street towards you, whereupon he unavailed himself of his trousers and exposed his genital area to yourself and said group of nuns innocently enjoying a shopping excursion, is that correct ?”

Maybe there are a whole bunch of police posting on Mumsnet?

DemonicCaveMaggot · 04/02/2025 14:52

Waitingfordoggo · 04/02/2025 11:17

@HangryLikeTheHulk That's so true. The police-speak that annoys me the most is 'seized'. You hear it all the time when police are recounting how they dealt with a crime. I get that it's probably the most accurate word to use but it just sounds so damned dramatic.

'We entered the property at 08.00 and seized several items of interest'

I really don't like it when there is a particularly nasty crime and the police spokespeople say 'the victims are being supported by specially trained officers'. It makes everyone sound like they're The Flying Wallenders or some other acrobatic artistes.

Twaddlepip · 04/02/2025 14:59

KettleOnCredit · 04/02/2025 07:38

Clearly this touched a nerve.
I'm sorry to all the posters who thought they sounded intelligent when referring to everything as 'said.'

Who hurt you? 😂 take up a martial art or something if you want to feel better about yourself.

PhyllisWallet · 04/02/2025 17:26

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 14:38

Clearly I've led a sheltered life!!

Paaaarrrp!

DerekFaker · 04/02/2025 17:43

myotherusernamesarebetter · 04/02/2025 08:00

One full stop at the end of a sentence dear, not two.

She could have used that spare one at the end of her next paragraph.