Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

[Rainingalldayonmyhead]

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

I virtually stopped using Amazon a few years ago, when I read about how appallingly their staff are treated. I'd be surprised if I'd used it more than 5 times in as many years, and only then when I can't find the thing I want anywhere else.

A mass cancellation of Amazon Prime would be fantastic!

Which fuels the addiction crisis, Fentanyl et al.

Anyone who can’t see it’s just positioning for negotiations and chatting nonsense about ‘standing up to a bully’ just mark themselves out as pointless non playable characters.

Amazon is a vile tax dodging company.

I mostly just try to stay organized and pick things up in person, or order directly from the website of the company in question. I am not going to delete my Amazon account altogether because there may be an occasional emergency when I am forced to use it, but I haven’t used Amazon for about a year now. It’s been fine.

I call it a “slowcott” rather than a boycott.

It's a bit hard to understand alot of things our governments do after we've voted them in, tbh.
But they voted him in to change the situation that millions are facing of struggling to house and bring up a family. The details are up to him. They will witness the consequences in real time, it might not be great. Protectionism has never worked in history, and you get a feeling this isn't going to be any different.
All those that want Trump and his ilk gone. If this goes wrong it will shatter the illusion more effectively than 'Brave Democrats' sniping from the sideline whilst their cities become impossible to live in for the marganalised or vulnerable.

I am 😂

And none of us are proud that he is from our turf.

Tell your DH I say howzit though 🤙

There is a lot that you would never consider. Lots of things that go into your cars, your hospital equipment that you'd not know the provenance of.

Negotiations with Canada on a new free trade deal have broken down, but what does this mean for businesses trading with the country and what happens next?
BCC Head of Trade Policy, William Bain, examines the implications:
One of the immediate effects of dialogue ending is that there will be no reprieve for cheese or dairy exporters in the UK. They have already been told they must access the non-EU quota for Canada cheese and dairy imports - this took effect on 1 January.
They will face stiff competition to access this quota, from the likes of Mexican and Swiss exporters, with long-standing contracts and supply chains into the Canadian market.
Any exports that UK cheese makers agree outside of the quota will face tariffs of 275%, making them completely uncompetitive

These Brexit benefits just keep on coming, don't they? 😟

Excuse me, I am a Brexiteer and I did not vote to go back to the days of empire (when Britain did not steal land from Native Americans; the US did that, which is why there was a rebellion in the 13 colonies in the 1770s - the colonists wanted to move into Native American lands and Britain would not let them). I voted for sovereignty and to have proper democracy - not the pseudo-democracy practised by the EU. You may have noticed that Romania just cancelled it's election results because the 'wrong' candidate won - that's the sort of democracy the EU has.
Do not lump people who do not like the capitalist cartel that is the EU, which uses free movement of labour to keep ordinary people's wages down, in with Mr Trump and his tariffs. And bear in mind the EU uses tariffs and forcing liberalisation of infrastructure (that means forcing the sale of utilities to private companies to run for profit, just like our utilities run here) in trade agreements with countries in Africa, mainly to those countries' disadvantage. The EU is a customs union, using tariffs to keep out foreign goods which compete with their own (I am not actually against this, as it happens, that wasn't why I voted to leave the EU), so it is not just Mr Trump who thinks this is a good idea - mind, his tariff hike is dangerous to the US economy, but he'll learn.

Cancelling Amazon Prime is the way to go.

It’s one simple step. Also tell people about it your decision to do this.

This is a bad policy for America - regardless of whether or not we try to punish them for it even more. (In fact it's probably better that we don't, because it just gives Trump an excuse to blame the Nasty Foreigners.)

I'm not sure what American products I buy anyway, apart from software and films occasionally.

I don't believe that my tiny contribution towards a boycott will make a vast difference to Trump, but it will make a difference to the powerlessness I feel at seeing friends in the States being ruled by a megalomaniac bully, who will degrade their standard of living, civil rights and health care. I can't do much, but I can do my tiny bit.

The EU has created one of the biggest barriers to trade in the world. If you are outside the EU block, which is similar to saying you are outside the USA, then to access trade into the block is full of excessive regulatory measures, quota requirements, competition against state subsidised business that have artificially reduced cost bases, excessive and costly trading pre requisites and much more which does include tariffs for some Countries.. And brexit has shown how huge they are. The UK is regulatory aligned to EU in all production requirements but still faces huge barriers to trade with EU. Why is that? We produce goods to all the requirements of the EU, so all the difficulty trading with them are barriers they create to trade into the common market. Why? To protect their production. Exactly what Trump is doing.
The EU does not trade freely what so ever. It trades freely within its Union but protects itself from competition from outside trade. The USA trades freely within its union and is looking to do the same thing as the EU does. Though less subtly, as is the way of Mr Trump.

@OhYouBadBadKitten even a fractional drop in Amazon Prime subscriptions hits the share price. Even more so if it’s part of a trend that grows in momentum.

Do you think anyone is going to give two shits about a few mumsnetters cancelling prime! It’s embarrassing to read.
You don’t like Trump, it wouldn’t matter what he introduced! I doubt he loses any sleep over a few lefties throwing a tantrum (again)

I am neutral on Trump’s presidency, he does have a lot of good ideas, and we could do with some of their vigour and enthusiasm for creating wealth and prosperity!

Look at what our bumbling fools in government are doing, why don’t you consider that Reeves is busy crashing the economy, taking us back to the 70s - and you have your fingers in your ears and tin hats on, screaming blue murder over the politics of another country. It’s pathetic.

And he recently pardoned Russ Ulbricht!

He's a hypocrite and a liar.

Interesting to watch the death of a world power though.

None of those goons actually believes that justification, they just invoke it to cover their arse with the WTO - procedures there become completely unwieldy once a national emergency is invoked, however spuriously.

History buffs might be interested to know a new translation of The Lives of the Caesars has been published.

Not quite sure why I mention that 🤔

This.

It is coming across as a more concerted global response than individual countries "standing up to a bully". Mexico, Canada and China all responded immediately. Europe is sending out "just you try it on" vibes. They are responding as if it is a coordinated approach... Kick hard and fast to stamp out any future destabilising of global trade.

Usually in the posturing trade wars it is a smaller response from an individual country while the rest of the world looks on.

@Grammarnut

when Britain did not steal land from Native Americans; the US did that, which is why there was a rebellion in the 13 colonies in the 1770s - the colonists wanted to move into Native American lands and Britain would not let them).

Huh? I think someone needs to refresh a bit on their world history 🤣

Much of the non-European world was colonized under the guise of the Doctrine of Discovery - a unilateral decree of international law issued by Pope Alexander VI in 1493 that categorized Indigenous Peoples as subhuman because they were not Christian and treated their land as unoccupied and available for the taking. In the early colonial period, there were sometimes treaties entered into or token payments made for use or purchase of Native People’s land. But predominantly, outright theft, enforced by violence, was the method of colonial land control. In 1663, by a decree from King Charles II, the colonial British Empire seized all the land of Native Peoples between 31 and 36 degrees latitude (an area extending from the today’s southern Georgia border to North Carolina’s northern border), from the east to the west coasts. Eighty years later, King George II of England awarded the Earl of Granville the upper half of what is now North Carolina. This area, which contained what is now Durham County, included 26,000 square miles stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to an indefinite western boundary. In the Carolina colony, Granville’s agents carved up stolen Native People’s land into parcels which were sold to English settlers. Ownership of these parcels was bestowed through land grants.

wfpc.sanford.duke.edu/north-carolina/durham-food-history/european-colonizers-create-wealth-through-stolen-land-and-stolen-labor-1600-1868/

Events leading up to the American Revolution - note there was nothing about expansion mentioned.

www.history.com/news/american-revolution-causes

The USA has a trade surplus with the UK - it would backfire hard.

Americans eat a LOT of Mexican avocado and drink tons of Mexican beer and tequila.

Mexicans eat a lot of American pork and poultry, so it will affect American farmers too.

As a Mexican I see an odd silver lining that maybe we'll start to consume our own produce as opposed to importing it.

Exactly.

Many Canadians died to support the UK in its fight against the Nazis.

it is possible to be concerned with the politics of more than one country at a time you know.