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AIBU - my boyfriend and a married woman

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Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 07:49

I have been with my boyfriend just over a year. When we first got together, he had a female friend from the gym who he did not hide and was very open about. It is a gym that does group sessions and he often mentioned they paired up together as they had similar abilities or were on at a similar fitness level. I didn’t think much of this as it is a transformation gym and he is one of the few people that are noticeably unfit. I never had any concerns as he said she was married and I also have close male friends that are nothing more.
However soon into the relationship it came to light that the husband of said wife, was not comfortable with my boyfriend and his wife’s relationship. He told me her response was “I have so many other male relationships so I don’t understand why he is so bother about this, he will have to get over it. You watch he will come back with his tail between his legs”. I soon realised it wasn’t just that they went to the gym together, they messaged from morning to night on social media, sending memes and photos to each other. And sometimes after the gym I would go for coffee together. Although my partners messages to me didn’t ring any alarm, I did feel slightly uncomfortable about the level of messaging, and I know it sounds crazy but that a married woman was messaging to ask for his opinion on how she should get her nails done. He had also told me openly that people at the guy for “some reason” suspect there is something going on between them.
To me, I thought for someone to disregard their husbands views was massively disrespectful to their marriage. So I calmly said to him that I can see why the husband feels uncomfortable and if it was the other way around and we were married and I met someone at the gym and all of a sudden are talking all the time and disregarding his views on it how would he feel. And by continuing after the husband had explained he wasn’t happy about it, he also was disrespecting the husbands feelings. I think he was a bit taken back at my response but then also agreed that he’s mentioned it to his friends in the pub, who had also said they wouldn’t be happy if that was their wife’s either.
Anyway long story short but it continued for a few months but then I myself started to feel uncomfortable about it, my partner goes to the gym everyday but Sunday and her name would come up on most days. A few things had happened such as I’d asked if he minded coming to spot me at the gym one of the days as I was staying with him and my gym schedule had completely changed as my gym and my gym partner lived so far away it made it difficult for me still to keep to this as I lived so far away. He was really reluctant to do so, as he said he was tired after work and the gym so I said fair enough but a few weeks later he came in jumping with joy that the gym had put on extra sessions so he was going to start doing some doubles… low and behold so was she. I was upset by it as I thought he would find the time to help me out if he cared. It may be unreasonable of me because they were friends before we got together but I did say the whole thing really made me feel uneasy and female intuition made me feel as though there was just something more too it. When I had raised that I too felt uncomfortable he would say things such as “I’m not just going to stop messaging my friend” “she’s a big part of my life”. I again just said calmly and due to past relationship experiences, that it was early on for us and if he didn’t understand why it’s making me feel uncomfortable maybe it’s best we part ways and no hard feelings as to me it was starting to become an issue in our relationship and quite honestly I wanted a relationship I felt calm and secure in.
He then said he doesn’t want our relationship to send so will tell her equally as her husband isn’t comfortable with it that they need to chill out on the messaging. He sent the message to her and she said “that’s fine”. I will add on the most part my boyfriend did reduce contact on his part, when he was on holiday they didn’t really message but after a few weeks and her continuing to message it ramped up again… she went on holiday with said husband and would be messaging my boyfriend as soon as she woke up… but at this point my boyfriend began to lie about the messages and the frequency. It then became a bigger issue as I’d found out he was lying and he said he’s done what he can and they don’t message as much anymore but then it came to light he had started deleting messages between them. And that is when I waved my flag and said I didn’t want to be in a relationship with someone who not only lie to me but also delete messages, it really broke a lot of trust between us which I vocalised. He apologised and swore it wouldn’t happen again and stupid me believed it. A few weeks after we had to go to a gym social all together and I didn’t want to be rude or hostile so I just remained friendly to everyone including the girl. We got home at the early hours of the morning and he messaged her to tell her we were home and that he’d had a good night and was so glad we had met. However following this, he began to mention her again ALOT, I was made redundant and was pretty stressed out about it but when I got home the first conversation he bought before asking if I was okay and what I as going on with was about the gym and her and I just felt like a complete idiot that had overlooked something that was never going to end. He said it was because at the gym I’d be friendly with her he’d got confused and thought everything was okay. Anyway long story short, and some deleted messages they had removed eachother from instagram and he said that he would cut contact with her going forward. He said she was no longer going to his sessions and that they no longer talk 1-1, they all have the same friendship group so talk when they are all together at events which I had no issue with. Anyway fast forward a couple of weeks and professional images came out from the gym and their gym event, low and behold there were images of the two of them training together and both in conversation (nobody else around). I raised this with him and he said it was a group discussion it just looks like it’s the two of them… anyway at this point I just felt like a complete idiot, he had a gym social and I said I was going to come as I didn’t want to end up in an issue (after they had “no contact” she would often come up to me at gym socials or get drunk and be all over my partner). We had argued about the social as the trust just was not there at all, he said I was being unreasonable because they don’t talk at all and the morning after there were photos on his phone of him her and somebody else.
I messaged the woman to ask what was going on as I clearly wasn’t getting the truth and she said it’s a misunderstanding on her part, she didn’t know contact was stopping completely.
I cannot get over the web of lies and it’s caused a HUGE wedge between me and my partner and a lot of resentment my end. Part of me feels like I’m being unfair, just need other opinions.

edit: moved to AIBU thread

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Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 13:04

@Spirallingdownwards sorry I agree I am just embarrassed at my own part to play in this.

Of course I won’t want to be a single parent but equally no I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who doesn’t put me first.

I’m 17 weeks pregnant so it’s not an option and when this all came account I was 12 weeks pregnant and my family/friends already knew.

I spoke to one of my friends yesterday, but I haven’t really spoken to anyone else as I’m so embarrassed.

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Naunet · 29/01/2025 13:11

We all make mistakes OP, the key is recognising it and learning from it. You've got nothing to feel embarrassed about.

meh2025 · 29/01/2025 13:13

This is the rest of your life you are deciding. Try to use your head and not your heart.

And it's not just that he doesn't put you first. He is a liar who is having sex with another woman, or is trying to do so. He is a proven liar now, that is who he is. That is what you are signing up for if you stay with him. He will not change.

WomenInConstruction · 29/01/2025 13:27

Really feel for you there op.
You've approached this in an adult and measured way, seeing his good side and giving him the benefit of the doubt.
In return he has obfuscated and deleted things and, ultimately, one way or another prioritised his relationship with her.

Your op was long but it was well written, I'm also not naturally succinct. To be fair there was no repetition or deviation so I think it counts as an informative post. 😁

I am sorry you are feeling embarrassed about the part you played in the way this unfolded, but you shouldn't cos you played it by the book and the embarrassment should be his.

I also wouldn't stay in the relationship given how he has behaved, other good qualities or no, his behaviour is childish and selfish and as a minimum he gets an ego kick out of her attention and is more excited by her than you.

If you become a solo parent and raise a wonderful child all anyone will see is how you rise above it all and show your power and grace.

Wish you all the best whatever you decide.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 29/01/2025 13:48

"she would often come up to me at gym socials or get drunk and be all over my partner"

It sounds like she is coming onto him and whilst he may not have any intentions of following through with anything, he likes the attention and hasn't put in normal boundaries that exist in a platonic friendship.

The ego boost is more important to him than your feelings

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 14:01

Just to say I had on plenty of occasions (as we’ve been living together) packed my bag and been ready to leave, but it’s always met with tears and him begging to stay saying he will do better and anything I want as he wants “the end” with me.

It’s emotionally very hard as I definitely have extreme empathy issues - I find when others are sad or upset I almost take on their emotions too.

But thank you all so much for your advice. I’m thinking of seeking some professional help for my own emotions because it all feels a bit too much for me to handle at the moment and I’m conscious I don’t want to stress the baby out. And whoever suggested that - thank you. I know my biggest fear right now is struggling on my own, I’ve seen how hard it has been for a friend of mine.
My family is so so supportive and I know they would never ever see me struggle they’d always help, I just feel like I’m being bringing my issues to them and they have been nothing but perfect in setting an example of how’s relationships and parenthood should be

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Spirallingdownwards · 29/01/2025 14:10

I think it may be ultimatum time (but be prepared for the outcome where you split).

Time for him to out you and the baby first and for him to change gyms and have no contact with the "other" woman.

If he can't commit to that in the situation where you are having a child together then he isn't worth it. As I said though ultimatums only work if you are prepared for the outcome to be the least desired one.

Please make sure going forward either with him as a partner or not that you don't put your career on hold and find he leaves you further down the line but completely stuffed financially. We have seen all too often on MN women who have given up everything to be dumped later on. Work on the basis this could happen at any time and protect yourself and child financially.

Spirallingdownwards · 29/01/2025 14:11

@Tryingtoberreasonable I wish there was a "care" reaction emoji like on Facebook I could press for you.

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 14:11

@DrinkFeckArseBrick i do agree, and when I’ve previously had advise of my friends (both male and female) they have always said it seems to be one sided. However they have always thought along with me when he said they had “no more contact other than in group settings” he was trying to change.

I agree and I think it’s desperate and if it’s not her as a poster said, it will be someone else

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cheddercherry · 29/01/2025 14:20

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 14:01

Just to say I had on plenty of occasions (as we’ve been living together) packed my bag and been ready to leave, but it’s always met with tears and him begging to stay saying he will do better and anything I want as he wants “the end” with me.

It’s emotionally very hard as I definitely have extreme empathy issues - I find when others are sad or upset I almost take on their emotions too.

But thank you all so much for your advice. I’m thinking of seeking some professional help for my own emotions because it all feels a bit too much for me to handle at the moment and I’m conscious I don’t want to stress the baby out. And whoever suggested that - thank you. I know my biggest fear right now is struggling on my own, I’ve seen how hard it has been for a friend of mine.
My family is so so supportive and I know they would never ever see me struggle they’d always help, I just feel like I’m being bringing my issues to them and they have been nothing but perfect in setting an example of how’s relationships and parenthood should be

Bringing your problems to your family and friends is what they will want you to do so they can help you rebuild. If they’ve been the perfect example of a relationships then don’t feel guilty and let them be another perfect example now by helping you through this - and you will get through this.

No matter how awful it all feels right now, one day you’ll have a baby in your arms and they will be the reason why it was worth going through some shit now in order to get yourself settled and happy.

Make a note or mentally keep telling yourself that you have people around you who want the best for you. You are not alone in this. You deserve to be happy. You can choose yourself (and baby) first.

I’m sure your partner will cry again but to be honest right now it sounds like you need space and break from his bullshit. You don’t need to be worrying about him and who he’s with. If he does love you then he’d want that for you and baby too at the very least and understand the stress he’s causing you. Just take time and build yourself to a place of calm before doing anything to rebuild some sort of relationship with him.

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 14:41

@cheddercherry Thank you, I really appreciate the advice and support 🩷

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meh2025 · 29/01/2025 15:15

He was they messaging her from morning till night, and going for coffee with her. He refused to help you at the gym but jumped at the chance to help her. He lied about messaging her. He deletes messages. He refuses to stop even though he has promised to.

And that's just what you've shared here.

This is not one sided, at all. He is fully engaged and enjoying himself.

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 15:33

@meh2025 sorry no it’s me causing confusion.
I just meant after the messaging stopped, the coffee stopped shortly after we started dating. I was just explaining as he was always the one to message and say they needed to not message anymore, or would avoid her at the gym socials but she would always push herself onto us. Or if he didn’t message her back, she’d get in a hump about it. I just thought he was invested in trying to make it work, hence why I had stuck it out a bit.

100% he is to blame, I do not deny that at all. Even if he is saying he did xyz… He allowed the contact to continue, he allowed somebody else to disrespect our relationship, whilst disrespecting our relationship himself, he kept that door open

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meh2025 · 29/01/2025 15:40

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 15:33

@meh2025 sorry no it’s me causing confusion.
I just meant after the messaging stopped, the coffee stopped shortly after we started dating. I was just explaining as he was always the one to message and say they needed to not message anymore, or would avoid her at the gym socials but she would always push herself onto us. Or if he didn’t message her back, she’d get in a hump about it. I just thought he was invested in trying to make it work, hence why I had stuck it out a bit.

100% he is to blame, I do not deny that at all. Even if he is saying he did xyz… He allowed the contact to continue, he allowed somebody else to disrespect our relationship, whilst disrespecting our relationship himself, he kept that door open

And I am very sorry that he did that to you.

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 15:46

I am by no means saying I intend to continue this relationship, but a few people have suggested the ultimatum route.

He has said he will leave that gym and join another; which really would have been the ideal situation 8 months ago.

But I just feel like if I did go down that route, i could potentially be deemed as controlling and manipulative. What are other peoples thoughts?

The issue I have and have always had with this… is that he would never and none of my exs have ever had to give me an ultimatum, because I have always had the up most respect for my relationships and I make sure I never do anything that would cause harm to my relationship or make another person feel like they weren’t secure with me

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yeesh · 29/01/2025 15:58

The ultimatum won’t work, you have already told him more than once that you will end the relationship over it and he just keeps doing it anyway. He has lied and walked all over your boundaries since the beginning. How can you ever trust him when he constantly says one thing and does the other

meh2025 · 29/01/2025 16:04

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 15:46

I am by no means saying I intend to continue this relationship, but a few people have suggested the ultimatum route.

He has said he will leave that gym and join another; which really would have been the ideal situation 8 months ago.

But I just feel like if I did go down that route, i could potentially be deemed as controlling and manipulative. What are other peoples thoughts?

The issue I have and have always had with this… is that he would never and none of my exs have ever had to give me an ultimatum, because I have always had the up most respect for my relationships and I make sure I never do anything that would cause harm to my relationship or make another person feel like they weren’t secure with me

What's the point when he has spent 8 months chasing another woman and humiliating you and lying to you? Can him finally doing the right thing erase those months of humiliation? Will that make him trustworthy in the future?

Only you can decide if that's any sort of solution.

I'd let him change gyms anyway just to make it harder for him to enjoy the nasty bitch he's been chasing who knew all along she was causing distress and enjoyed it. And then decide after that if you want anything to do with him.

Billyblue47 · 29/01/2025 16:16

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 15:46

I am by no means saying I intend to continue this relationship, but a few people have suggested the ultimatum route.

He has said he will leave that gym and join another; which really would have been the ideal situation 8 months ago.

But I just feel like if I did go down that route, i could potentially be deemed as controlling and manipulative. What are other peoples thoughts?

The issue I have and have always had with this… is that he would never and none of my exs have ever had to give me an ultimatum, because I have always had the up most respect for my relationships and I make sure I never do anything that would cause harm to my relationship or make another person feel like they weren’t secure with me

He can't be trusted. You asked him to stop and have better boundaries. Instead he just lied and deleted the messages. His need for an ego boost comes before you and your relationship. Unfortunately, I don't think she will be the last person that he lacks boundaries with. If its not this woman it will be another one.

Starlight1984 · 29/01/2025 16:32

If that's what you consider to be cutting a long story short, I'd hate to see you tell a long story in full

😂

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 16:36

@Starlight1984 imagine having to mark my coursework, honest to god it hasn’t got better in age. Awful trait

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WomenInConstruction · 29/01/2025 16:48

Tryingtoberreasonable · 29/01/2025 15:46

I am by no means saying I intend to continue this relationship, but a few people have suggested the ultimatum route.

He has said he will leave that gym and join another; which really would have been the ideal situation 8 months ago.

But I just feel like if I did go down that route, i could potentially be deemed as controlling and manipulative. What are other peoples thoughts?

The issue I have and have always had with this… is that he would never and none of my exs have ever had to give me an ultimatum, because I have always had the up most respect for my relationships and I make sure I never do anything that would cause harm to my relationship or make another person feel like they weren’t secure with me

A relationship held together by ultimatums won't go the distance.
If doing the decent thing doesn't come naturally, either because he doesn't understand or doesn't care, then you are on a hiding to nowhere.

A good person will not need to be told, and if he does then you are in for an exhausting lifetime of attempting to elicit the behaviour you quite rightly want from an individual from whom it isn't coming from the heart.

In all honesty, you'd be better going it alone than hitching your horse to that wagon because he doesn't share your values and you'll slowly die from that because it means you would be keeping a lonely vigil for decency in your own relationship.

WomenInConstruction · 29/01/2025 16:51

His tears may be genuine but his boundaries are weak, so he will always be at the mercy of flattering attention, and so will you.

You need to acknowledge that his emotional distress is causing you to compromise on what you are willing to put up with and get support to bolster your resolve while you try to react to his actions not his words and tears.

Redcandlescandal · 29/01/2025 16:52

Dump!

kellysjowls · 30/01/2025 00:35

You have a supportive family?
Then you don't need that useless wanker.
He'll never make you happy.
He'll never change, just get older, fatter, balder but still be chasing validation elsewhere.

You on the other hand have a whole life changing event happening right now, and a whole life ahead of you.

WomenInConstruction · 30/01/2025 09:18

@kellysjowls yes yes yes