To ask where is the outrage?

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Found this article on grooming gangs. I was certain there would be outrage on Mumsnet because of all the recent posts on grooming gangs so imagine my shock when there are no comments at all condemning the perpetrators in this shocking story. Could it be because they are white and some people are only interested in protecting children if the perpetrators are from an ethnic minority?

It was one of the top stories on the BBC too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vpzvk139xo

And nothing from Musk, Telegraph, Mail etc. I'm baffled truly I am. It's almost as if prejudice is skin deep.

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OP isn't minimalising what happened to the children in Rotherham- half the issue was also the fact that the authorities didn't care about the victims as they were 'trouble-makers', had difficult upbringings/backgrounds and the term child prostitution wasn't viewed as child abuse.

OP is merely pointing out that there is a difference in how the media report crimes and how the public react, depending on the criminals religion and ethncitiy. It naive to deny that, and it's not necessarily referring to Rotherham.

2 of them are women!!

I was certain there would be outrage on Mumsnet

it's a public forum, why did you not start a thread instead of waiting for someone else and then complain? Who stopped you?

It's not like complaining about the front page of the papers, you have exactly the same means as everyone else to show your outrage.

half the issue was also the fact that the authorities didn't care about the victims as they were 'trouble-makers', had difficult upbringings/backgrounds and the term child prostitution wasn't viewed as child abuse.

But wasn't that the authorities trying to blame the victims as part of their strategy to look the other way with their fingers in their ears because of the make up of the gangs who did it?

I don't know why you are making a fuss about this, OP. Most sex abuse gangs are not Scottish. Seems like bigotry to me.

The perpetrators are appalling, I’m outraged at what they did. The children disclosed and they were helped.

In Rotherham disclosures were made for years and the children blamed. It was widely known what was happening and no one stepped in to help the children or their parents. The parents were desperately seeking help. There was no help.

You are so right.
This doesn't fit the racist narrative, so presumably they are a bit too confused to know what to write...

Scottish crime widely reported in Scotland

Yes, I saw the other thread and how the lack of immediate interest in something that was poorly covered in the media was evidence that the concerns for the raping gangs victims is actually nothing more than racism.

People don't seem to understand that the scandalous thing about the grooming gangs was that it was allowed to exist, that raping and torturing men were ignored by the police, charity workers, social workers, councillors and MPs.

I wonder, has Naz Shah forwarded any posts this time around saying that the victims of these monsters should pipe down for the good of diversity yet?

It has been reported in the press that most grooming gangs are white - by mainstream media.

Certain gangs have attracted attention due accusations of (I don’t know to what extent this is true) fears of being seen as racist, victims not being believed and supported appropriately.

Some cases of crime are more prolific due to the nature of them.

I sincerely hope the victims are supported for many years to come. It takes years to address and it is something they will live with for all their lives. My heart goes out to them as such abuse can be so debilitating.

Outrage has a place in communities and society, and can be a catalyst for change.
People shouldn’t be criticised for it - OP if you think the debate is biased put forward your own points rather than piss a load of folk off with accusations of racism.

Race baiter has got to bait.

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I didn't imagine the mumsnet thread on this I was reading yesterday.

It's all over the media where I am and folk are condeming it.
Don't try to use this to get sympathy for other rapists.

YABVVVU, OP.

I read about this on Monday. My immediate response wasn’t to jump onto MN to join or create a thread about it because I found the details shocking enough without wanting to know more. Monday was also a big news day with extensive coverage of the commemoration of the liberation of Auschwitz.

I can’t work out what the point of your thread is or how you have leaped to the illogical conclusion that because MN - one site amongst many, and not wholly devoted to news - had no thread yesterday on this story, there is no focus on the awful issues it covers because the perps are white therefore everyone on MN is racist if they only ever commented on the Rotherham grooming gangs?

I think you’re a shit stirrer and have come here deliberately to provoke a row about race. Not good.

Were they from Christian backgrounds?

I've seen plenty of coverage and lots of people outraged by it on social media. I suppose it depends what outlets you get your news from but most people are usually vocal about child abuse of any sorts regardless of the race.

I’ve not seen it to be outraged by it. I think you’re right that we’re being manipulated by the news agencies that determine what the main stories are.

I agree I haven't seen this but haven't caught the news this week. But I don't see the same level of outrage on mumsnet or anywhere esle.

Having been a victim of sexual abuse I am not victim shaming or anything esle like someone up thread suggested.

The sad truth is most people don't really care about anything outside their bubble unless they are told to by their social media feed.
Then they get riled up and the outrage acts as a form of entertainment for them for a few days before they forget all about it again and go back to normal.

I'm outraged! I commented on the mail online about these sick evil monsters! Why has racism got to come into everything? There's evil everywhere you look

A little girl was murder by her dad in Scotland this week. Also not on MN because Scottish news never is.
I think it's appalling you are trying to use the suffering of young DC to make a political point.
Congratulations you've found a story on more abused children and no mention of their suffering just trying to prove a point that what MN is anti Muslim? Muslim men are over represented when it comes to child abuse gangs in the UK, that is just a fact. They generally only abuse white children too. Good try with your look over there nonsense.

The two cases of ‘gang’ child abuse are equally abhorrent, however, there wasn't an extensive cover up with the Scottish case.

Please use some critical thinking.

There's a school mum on Facebook who regularly posts free Tommeh & thinly disguised anti immigrant posts. She heavily shared posts on the Pakistani grooming gangs along with SEND them ALL back including the ones born here posts. So I shared the Glasgow child grooming gang article & not a peep from her or her minions as expected.

Child sexual abuse is abhorrent regardless of the race of the abusers, it should be called out for what it is. It is disgusting that society is weaponising the reporting of child sexual abuse.