To think Princess Di was killed

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There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

Maybe Nigel Farage could promise to release all the papers when he is PM ?

Here's the National Archive link to the

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Which of the people giving testimony on oath are you accusing of perjury, OP?

Because it's one thing to glibly state that shadowy Establishment figures must have manipulated it. But that means that some or all of these people who were cross-examined in open Coroner's court, were lying on oath. Who are you accusing?

Always believed it was a terrible accident until I read a book called 'The Murder of Princess Diana' and watched a documentary about it.

Either way, we will never know because if it was not an accident, it was an expertly designed assassination. If it was an assassination, I don't think it was authorised because of concern about who she might marry, I think it was more likely because she knew things and had already demonstrated that she was willing to talk. A 'loose canon' as they said. What more did she know that she could have revealed? With that in mind, I don't think it should be so unbelievable that it could have been an assassination.

She was being used by Mohammed al Fayed that summer before she died. He engineered all the publicity as a poke in the eye of the establishment because he was refused a British passport. She should have known this, but maybe she wanted to get her own back, too.
Whatever, she put her safety in the hands of a chauffeur who wasn’t meant to be working that evening, and who had been drinking. And the Fayed security guards failed to make sure she had her seat belt on.
It was an accident and people need to let it go.

If she had worn a seatbelt, there is a good chance she would have survived. YABU.

The driver drank because he wasn't supposed to be driving anymore that night

Dodis father suggested they go to another location despite them not being due out again that night

She didn't wear her seatbelt she routinely did but it wasn't uncommon for her not too there are photos of her that night with no seat belt on she clearly didn't feel she was in much danger

Her actual cause of death is extremely rare and the surgeon had never seen it before

Her and dodi were rumoured to be finishing anyway it wasn't a great romance
The press were already turning on her aggressively attacking her at every turn
She was getting along with charles again maturity brings a new light to their situation who knows how it would have played out in the future

I came on specifically to post this, but see that @Reallybadidea has beaten me to it!

Yes exaxtly, I thought the same thing and why are these things never addressed in the Inquest. He was twice the UK legal limit.

I think it’s fairly unlucky to be in a car accident the one time you don’t wear a seatbelt. I also think with paparazzi pursuing you’d put your seat belt on.

I have read that it was very unlike her not to wear her seat belt so have always wondered if it was broken.

Would she have needed too ?
Were she alive now I suspect her romance with Dodi, would have Been long forgotten as a brief fling.

It’s because people don’t like to accept that senseless accidents happen and that life is quite fragile and can be over in an instant.

It’s why ‘celebrity’ deaths hit harder for some than a stranger or general statistics.

Having a cause or someone to blame makes it easier to accept.

Nah. It was too random - there was absolutely no guarantee the driver would drive too fast at exactly that point.

She definitely wouldn't be a wrinkly old lady now though - she'd be on her third facelift with a face full of filler 😂

Yes, but it would certainly be brought up again now.

I think it's interesting that both Harry and William, unknown to the other, had a driver drive them very fast through the tunnel to see if it was feasible that things happened the way they were told.

If they're also questioning it I think that's interesting.

Oh FFS are you mad?
If she had been jabbed with an umbrella and then died of ricin poisoning I would be in total agreement. Instead she was being driven at high speed by a drunk driver and wasn't wearing a seat belt. I mean that's quite something for the 'secret people' to orchestrate - get someone cripplingly drunk and then persuade him to drive into a wall?

There's nothing complicated about it (you think arms dealers and their buyers gave any sh1ts about her anti land mining campaign?)

its quite fascinating to think about but ultimately she wasn’t murdered. I do enjoy a good conspiracy though!

If the royal family can bump off the nuisance members of the family who cause them bother why is Andrew still around? Why is Meghan cheerfully making Netflix documentaries about making desserts? They don’t strike me as a family who have much control over what the recalcitrant family members do. They couldn’t even stop Andrew saying he couldn’t possibly be involved in sex trafficking because he was too busy that night being not-sweaty in Woking Pizza Express.

Who is "they"? How did they manage to square other drivers, photographers, the French police, paramedics etc to say she was not wearing a seatbelt if she was? How did they manage to engineer injuries which are exactly comparable to what you would get if you were injured in a high speed crash and didn't have a seatbelt?

She died because she made the foolish decision not to wear a seatbelt, full stop.

Yes, because of course car accidents lead to death in 100% of cases, and killing a popular and attractive famous woman at her prime guarantees she will be forgotten by the public within days.

Good grief, is critical thinking not a thing anymore?

The way to end someone is to do a smear campaign against them
that would have been cheaper easier and if they actually achieved full prince andrew / Megan level cancellation she would have no platform to have any power on

amnedty international etc are speaking out on powerful people / countries but no one has tried to silence them through complex car accident

If they were going to assassinate her they would have used a more reliable method. She could have survived the crash with a seat belt. Al Fayed led the narrative if murder. Recent events show what kind of person he was.

There are celebrities who manage not to be persecuted by the paparazzi. I think it's Madonna who wears the same tracksuit every day when she's out so that there's no money in pictures of her. I hate to think what her security costs are, but she'd no more get into some random car with a drunk than she would fly. Once Jackie Kennedy broke up with Onassis she made a better life and prioritised staying out of the spotlight, and she managed it, including having a long and by all accounts happy relationship. Diana could have lived a genuinely quiet life with adequate security, prioritising her privacy and children's dignity. Her divorce settlement was more money than most of us would ever be able to spend. I do feel sad that she was effectively addicted to the attention of the press, but she made really bad choices a lot of the time, so bad that she put herself at high risk.

Four people in a car that crashes and the only survivor was also the only one wearing his seatbelt isn't a mystery imo.

She wouldn't be a big hero in the press now. The press were turning on her when she died. She was starting to get the flaky/unsuitable comparisons/constant holidays jibes from them.

They made her a saint after she died because that sells. Combined with the attacks on the royal family it also very helpfully diverted attention away from the paparazzi angle.

If she were alive now the media would be the same as it is with the rest of the royals and celebs - some papers would saint her, some would slate her, and which did what would switch and change depending on what they thought would sell best that week.

People who drink all the time can become immune to it . My alcoholic grandmother could drink enough to knock out the average horse and she would still behave perfectly normally and show no signs of being drunk . I actually doubt she was ever actually sober .

Indeed.

And if they could easily bump people off in France then how come the Duke and Duchess of Windsor lived to 77 and 89?