To think Princess Di was killed

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

How do people have the time and energy to focused on these nonsensical conspiracy theories especially for someone who died almost 30 years ago.

She was in a car accident, didn't wear a seat belt and the driver was drunk. The same way that sadly countless others lose their lives. End of.

Obviously she wasn’t killed. She faked her own death as it was the only escape from the spotlight. After a long stint hiding out on the Spencer estate, now she’s sitting pretty in Harry’s Montecito mansion – there’s a reason Meghan’s show wasn’t filmed at home! – spending her days trolling the internet and eating bonbons.

I don’t understand how the inquest has refuted this view. The opinion is essentially that there is a 1/10,000 chance of the results being what they were and that he thinks it’s not Henri Paul’s blood.

If you think the law and Inquests and politics all function fairly and transparently then you’re naive. There is corruption and power at play in every crevice of society, even in a liberal democracy.

Don't know and don't care to be honest.

Really don't understand what the big deal is about her. Her behaviour was awful but people chose to ignore all her wrongdoings and instead obsess over her pretty outfits.

I didn't say anything about refuting. The inquest obviously heard a lot of evidence, so what's your reason for only mentioning this? Presumably if you think there's a risk of corruption in respect of any of evidence submitted to an inquest, Professor Johnson is no more immune to this than anyone else.

and was in a relationship with a man who was a bit "problematic".

Whose father was more than 'a bit' problematic. I've always thought the relationship was orchestrated by Mohamed al Fayed to get back at the British Establishment, because of the refusal to grant him citizenship. I don't think Dodi was all that bright and his father was likely pulling his strings.

But I think Diana's death was an (avoidable) accident caused by too many bad decisions by too many people.

I’m miserable and bored in my life right now is how.

No, it’s always one type of person that has to see everything on the surface. Nobody is allowed to ask questions or challenge everything because you need your neat little sensible story.

I find it too coincidental with the landmines. She’d basically stepped on the toes of some of the most powerful dangerous people in the world & impacted their $$

She chose not to fasten her seatbelt, she got in a car driven by a drunken driver, she tipped off the press as to where she should be.

I mean, if the dark powers that be are going to all the effort of having her killed, I expect it would be within their skill set to fiddle with the seatbelt beforehand and fix the driver’s blood test results.

I don’t necessarily believe this.

Are you old enough to remember her?
It was an accident, not murder

What would his motivation be ? He wanted to star in a conspiracy theory documentary ?

I read the inquest a while ago, I didn’t bother to find it as it’s lengthy and I was both reading and darting back to the conversation.

She actually is Meghan- I mean, think about it, did you ever see them together?

If she were still alive now, she'd be having a very tough job denying all knowledge of Mohammed Al Fayed's predatory behaviour. Rather like Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein

She chose not wear a seatbelt. In a high speed accident, especially hitting a concrete wall, not wearing a belt almost guarentees you will die. The driver was drunk, too, and should not have been driving at all. No conspiracy, just folly.

Yes she was killed in a road traffic accident caused by her driver being drunk and driving at speed through urban street dangerously. Yes there were paparazzi but a safe sober driver would have ignored them rather than tried outrun them

People have a wide range of motivations for corruption. Are you saying you think for some reason he was inherently less prone to it than anyone else involved in the inquest who didn't take his view, that we can make different assumptions about him than to anyone else?

I have no idea if it was a set up or not, but for those who put the blamed squarely on the seat belt, have you never got in to a car and can't get it to work for whatever reason, like it just wouldn't extend? Sure, she could've refused to stay in it, but with the paps being as crazy as they were, maybe she hopped in with the intention to put on the belt as they drove off and then realised it wasn't working, and thought she'd chance that one time? Considering the absolute faff of having to make alternate arrangements in that circus, it wouldn't surprise me if that's why the belt was off. I assume it's pretty quick and easy to disable a seatbelt.

Nah she really wasn’t hanging out with the best people therefore she was labelled as such. ( a loose cannon) It is very unfortunate that after so long her lover’s dad was found out to be a sexual predator. I wonder how much she knew about this or nothing at all. However, what a stained would that has been for her if she were alive and married his son. Same like when Andrew was friends with JE.

You should read 'Unnatural Causes' by Dr Richard Shepherd. He is the pathologist who was called immediately to the autopsy. He admits that some things didn't add up but ultimately he said if she had been wearing her seatbelt she would have been in the papers the next day with a broken arm and facial injuries. I don't think he would risk his reputation by lying.

I was always a fan of Diana but I do wonder if she was still alive whether she would have had her nose put out of joint by the popularity of the Princess of Wales.

Yes I’m 40 and I absolutely remember her as a little Australian girl. My Dad had an evening wear store and sold the identical blue one shoulder dress she wore. My Grandmas and I would always discuss her - she was on the front cover of every magazine. I remember watching the tv coverage and montage and funeral and was glued to the tv. My Nanna bought two cd’s of ‘Candle in the Wind’ from her funeral and I listened to it non stop. I thought she was magnificent.

Mmm that one might've got awkward.

You are right re corruption, but in this instance it looks very like an appalling accident caused by a drunk driver. There is no reason for anyone to want Diana killed, and doing it in a car accident is very hit and miss, anyway.

I think her sister said at the time they couldn't understand why she wasn't wearing a seat belt when she was normally fastidious about doing so?

What I don't get, and I know the explanation was that he was an alcoholic and had a higher tolerance, is how Henri Paul could have been so much over the limit but not only walked out of the Ritz perfectly normally, he actually bends down to tie his shoelace before straightening up and carrying on without so much a wobble.

I disagree. I come from a community where an ultra privileged white western woman wouldn't garner more than the ordinary sympathy, but it was an absolutely massive thing! People and family from abroad kept ringing our house for updates. We put money together to buy flowers and put them at Kensington Palace. My mother wore black. The woman was loved universally by almost every segment of the community. I remember people from many cultures along with indigenous British people crying live on TV. It was a unifying moment. In fact I was in my early twenties, quite oblivious and couldn't see what the fuss was about and early the next morning, I stepped out (in the ghetto which is normally buzzing) to link up with friends and there was the most eerie silence. No one was talking to anyone else. I saw a woman at the bus stop looking totally miserable. When I got to my friends house her mum was crying.

Such will never happen again. I thought the Queen's death might trigger something similar, but whilst the lying in state thing was still huge, and still garnered cross-cultural reaction, it simply didn't pervade the everyday person's consciousness in the same way.

I strongly believe the death of celebrity started with Diana's death. There's simply no one who symbolises so much or who inspired so much alive today. No John Lennon's etc. I agree though that the nasty Murdoch press were going for her towards the end, especially for slumming it with ethnic people, although I agree they were shady people, and she ought to have been far more careful and respectful of her position as mother of a future king.

It's totally in the nature of the British to denigrate their heroes/heroine's and applaud their villains for some weird reason. Which is what has happened post-humously in Diana's case.

Henri Paul was not a professional driver.

He was in charge of security at The Ritz.

He was also well over the limit and taking anti depressants when he was driving.