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To think Princess Di was killed

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 15:35

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

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sanityisamyth · 28/01/2025 16:46

SophiaSW1 · 28/01/2025 15:50

She got in a car driven by a drunk driver and wasn't wearing a seatbelt. I think it's way more likely that was the cause.

This.

Mila6464 · 28/01/2025 16:46

Thindog · 28/01/2025 16:41

It's very strange that a doctor happened to be first on the scene, and that the ambulance took so long to get her to the hospital. It's very strange that her second son looks like the lover she had before he was born.
In fact the whole of the monarchy is very strange. .

On the day of the funeral, a boy came into the church looking exactly like Harry. It was a cousin, a son of one of Diana's sisters. The red hair/strawberry blonde look is also 'generic' in the upper classes so it wouldn't be hard for him to look like another posh fellow from the same class.

sanityisamyth · 28/01/2025 16:46

WhatNoRaisins · 28/01/2025 15:50

If they did then they got very lucky as the "method" was quite hit and miss.

More of a hit, really 🙈

ginasevern · 28/01/2025 16:47

I hate conspiracy theories and have never followed one in my life but I really do wonder about Diana. Apart from her exploits with landmines (which was enough for a cabal of very powerful and rich men to want to execute her) she was poised to announce some "very interesting news". We'll never know what that was. All I know is that something has never sat right with me about any of it.

kindlyensure · 28/01/2025 16:48

I think there is a good case for manslaughter, for sure. The paps were hounding her car, causing it to veer and dodge. Arguably they could be accused of deliberately trying to drive a car off the road.

And then - who tipped the paps off? Maybe even Al Fayid, so desperate was he to marry his son off to Royalty (if you take The Crown as gospel truth!) So there could be a manslaughter case there perhaps (inciting others to behave in a dangerous way that leads to death?)

Terrible and tragic accidents happen to anybody, but not many people are in the position of intense scrutiny that Diana was, so I guess some might say a disaster was inevitable.

ladymactíre · 28/01/2025 16:48

She raised awareness regarding landmines, but the work to have the landmines banned started before her visits to Bosnia and Angola. See Ottawa Treaty / Mine Ban Treaty. The work of ICBL started in 1992. Beside, UK signed the treaty. After her death, but they signed it. So, who killed her and for what

MyBirthdayMonth · 28/01/2025 16:50

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/01/2025 16:17

If she were still alive now, she'd be having a very tough job denying all knowledge of Mohammed Al Fayed's predatory behaviour. Rather like Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein

She would not have been the first woman whose FIL turned out to be a randy old goat.

JoyousGreyOrca · 28/01/2025 16:50

So much rewriting of history here. Look at the papers before she died. They were talking about her mine campaign and either thinking it was wonderful, or saying she should not have been meddling.

Her photos and clothes still covered magazines and newspapers. There was still a lot of interest in her. There were also lots of rumours in the press that she was pregnant.

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/01/2025 16:51

If anyone had wanted to murder her, it was more likely to have been a wife of one of the married men she had affairs with.

I also think it highly likely that she would have estranged herself from her sons due to her jealousy of their wives. Diana would have been the MIL from Hell.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/01/2025 16:51

Thindog · 28/01/2025 16:41

It's very strange that a doctor happened to be first on the scene, and that the ambulance took so long to get her to the hospital. It's very strange that her second son looks like the lover she had before he was born.
In fact the whole of the monarchy is very strange. .

Not this again. Princess Diana did not meet James Hewitt until after Prince Harry was born.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 16:52

ladymactíre · 28/01/2025 16:48

She raised awareness regarding landmines, but the work to have the landmines banned started before her visits to Bosnia and Angola. See Ottawa Treaty / Mine Ban Treaty. The work of ICBL started in 1992. Beside, UK signed the treaty. After her death, but they signed it. So, who killed her and for what

I think it was the landmine walk and the exposure she gave the issue. That was in January 1997 and around that time she was labelled a “loose cannon”. In August she’d died.

My tampered seat belts theory is bonkers and ridiculous, I’ll accept that.

Why was Henri Paul the driver ? Surely the Al Fayeds knew he wasn’t a top pick.

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Purplebunnie · 28/01/2025 16:52

I'm sure I read somewhere that she was supposed to be with a friend that particular night but unfortunately she was ill so Diana was with Dodi.

Also read that she and Dodi were supposed to stay at the hotel but Diana didn't want to.

If either of these are correct then I think it's a long shot to arrange this kind of accident in a short time. If she'd been with her friend then she would have used her own driver. Obviously if they hadn't left the hotel then no accident.

Perhaps if she had worn a seat-belt she would still be with us.

Whatever, she's been gone a long time, leave her in peace

QuimCarrey · 28/01/2025 16:52

Am I the only one who thinks Harry looks the spit of young Phillip? Perhaps him and James Hewitt had a love child and passed it off as Diana's.

Adamante · 28/01/2025 16:53

2dogsandabudgie · 28/01/2025 16:51

Not this again. Princess Diana did not meet James Hewitt until after Prince Harry was born.

And Harry looks so like Prince Phillip when he was young and when making certain facial expressions almost identical to KCIII. Honestly it’s so tedious to keep bringing Hewitt up.

JHound · 28/01/2025 16:53

I think this is one of the craziest conspiracy theories. Nobody has ever given any reason whatsoever as to why anybody would have any interest in killing her.

And why they would choose such an abysmal option such as arranging a car crash.

MissRoseDurward · 28/01/2025 16:53

Maybe someone broke the seat belts prior so that they didn’t function.

If so, it would have been a failure on the part of their security, not to check the car over and to allow it to proceed without functioning seatbelts.

It's very strange that a doctor happened to be first on the scene, and that the ambulance took so long to get her to the hospital.

That was gone into at length at the inquest. French practice at the time was to try to treat and stabilise at the scene, rather than 'scoop and run' to hospital. The Coroner said there was nothing suspicious about it, it was just different practices.

It's very strange that her second son looks like the lover she had before he was born.

It's very strange that people keep dragging this up when Harry has looked more and more like his father and grandfather as he has got older. And his red hair comes from the Spencer side of the family.

(And I believe she didn't even meet James Hewitt until after Harry was born.)

SerendipityJane · 28/01/2025 16:54

they say that all conspiracy theories have a nugget of truth in there somewhere

In any non-trivial sequence of events, there will always be some gaps and overlaps. The more attention you pay (for example when someone famous dies or comes to a violent unexpected end) the attention will be exponentially increased. And that's where the armchair buffs escape the plot.

Seatbeltless woman killed in high speed crash in a car driven by a drunk.

Weather to follow.

piggybackrideitallnight · 28/01/2025 16:54

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 15:55

When in actual fact she was run off the road by paparazzi/trained tactical drivers and a flashing light planned to ensure maximum impact and kill her. I don’t think she was tended to in the ambulance. Her body was embalmed. The list goes on.

I don't get how people post things like "I don't think" and then give no reasons as to what they are basing their belief on. It's like "I want to think this so I'll think it" based on zero evidence.

Topseyt123 · 28/01/2025 16:55

What a load of bollocks.

She had turned down the security she had been offered on divorce (and needed really, as the mother of a future king)), she got into a very high powered car with a very drunk driver and wasn't wearing a seatbelt.

Simple as that. Her sad death will have been 28 years ago this summer and she should be allowed to rest in peace. People idiots just won't let it drop though.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 16:58

piggybackrideitallnight · 28/01/2025 16:54

I don't get how people post things like "I don't think" and then give no reasons as to what they are basing their belief on. It's like "I want to think this so I'll think it" based on zero evidence.

I know you’re right, it’s just 1am here and I can’t sleep but I don’t feel like inquest reading. I remember thinking it odd that she has low blood pressure in the ambulance but they don’t rush her to hospital. This indicates internal bleeding that you’d expect in a car accident and I don’t see how stabilising her would have helped. It was time that she needed and trauma surgeons.

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 16:59

Topseyt123 · 28/01/2025 16:55

What a load of bollocks.

She had turned down the security she had been offered on divorce (and needed really, as the mother of a future king)), she got into a very high powered car with a very drunk driver and wasn't wearing a seatbelt.

Simple as that. Her sad death will have been 28 years ago this summer and she should be allowed to rest in peace. People idiots just won't let it drop though.

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If I was bumped I’d want people to discuss it, not to bury the truth with me.

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LittleLegoTree · 28/01/2025 16:59

OP, you say 'I’m miserable and bored in my life right now is how.'.

I suggest that it will be more rewarding for you to take that energy and effort and do something useful with it in the real world - follow the example of your beloved Queen of (People's) Hearts and go and do some charity work, volunteer at a wildlife sanctuary, go and shop for old people or help out at a hospice or something.

Conspiracy theories like this will always have currency because people like to believe that there's some higher power in control somewhere, because it makes them feel safe. The truth is that there isn't, and we are all plainly where we are. Nobody could have made such an elaborate murder plan and executed it on an evening when the original events planned had been changed at the last minute, and then somehow all the dozens of people involved kept quiet for nearly 30 years. It just isn't feasible. Use your head and move away from YouTube.

Ilovemyshed · 28/01/2025 17:00

I think you ate completely delusional OP

SerendipityJane · 28/01/2025 17:00

Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 16:59

If I was bumped I’d want people to discuss it, not to bury the truth with me.

And your poor family ? William, Harry, and now their children ?

2dogsandabudgie · 28/01/2025 17:01

Purplebunnie · 28/01/2025 16:52

I'm sure I read somewhere that she was supposed to be with a friend that particular night but unfortunately she was ill so Diana was with Dodi.

Also read that she and Dodi were supposed to stay at the hotel but Diana didn't want to.

If either of these are correct then I think it's a long shot to arrange this kind of accident in a short time. If she'd been with her friend then she would have used her own driver. Obviously if they hadn't left the hotel then no accident.

Perhaps if she had worn a seat-belt she would still be with us.

Whatever, she's been gone a long time, leave her in peace

Yes, and they were supposed to dine elsewhere that night but because of the paparazzi decided to dine at the Ritz. Two other cars were used as decoys and left the hotel at the front whilst Dodi and Diana were leaving via the back. When the paparazzi realised this it led to the high speed chase.

The pregnancy rumour was started by Dodi's father. I think I read in an interview with one of the Al-Fayeds staff that Mr. Al-Fayed had asked him to lie and say that Diana was pregnant. Al-Fayed also started the murder rumours.

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