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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:19

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:00

Most couples do share money though. That’s not an unheard of thing so why wouldn’t you just address it to the both of them and respect that? Especially knowing they do joint accounts you have to figure it’s all going to one pot anyways.

Because it is a gift for my son. I would hope he would buy himself something nice with it, but if he adds it to the household pot then that's his choice.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:20

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:18

OP why you can’t you just let the man have a gift from his own mother in peace. You can’t - you have to make the rules around it, it’s only allowed on his birthday.

I’ve been with my husband for many years and occasionally his mother gives him stuff. And sometimes she gives us both stuff. On no occasion have I ever felt the need to intervene.

Let then man have a present from his own mother in peace instead of discussing how he must tell his mother X & Y.

He told his mother (not me) and he is a grown man so responsible for what he says. That he wants me addressed on cards and his mother’s very kind and loving words to him will you will regret this blood is thicker than water. When he pointed out her partner isn’t blood to him yet he is expected to treat him like family his mom had no words. Guess we are screwed if we choose to adopt children as her grandchildren won’t be blood.

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justasking111 · 24/01/2025 13:21

I see the OP has another day off from her job.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:21

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:19

Because it is a gift for my son. I would hope he would buy himself something nice with it, but if he adds it to the household pot then that's his choice.

And you wouldn’t want your DIL to treat herself as well? So it’s only your son that works hard and deserves a treat but not his wife? Interesting if they have children considering even in 2025 most of the child rearing is still put on the woman.

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saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:23

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:18

why though wouldn’t you follow the couples’ lead? If they combine finances follow suit. You aren’t respecting their set up or their relationship

My late husband and I combined our finances for the 40 years we were together. But monetary gifts for Christmas and birthdays were given to us as individuals, and we would encourage each other to spend it accordingly. Sometimes we would, sometimes we would use it for a joint meal or day out. But it never went into the joint account, and nor did we expect or want people to read our minds regarding how it would be spent or saved.

It's odd that you don't want your fiancee to tell his mum your financial arrangements, yet at the same time you want her to bear them in mind when she gifts something.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:23

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:15

It’s a Christmas gift for her son.

What did you buy her for Christmas? Did you send a card?

Yes we sent them (her and her husband) a card with a couples gift to the spa. Wouldn’t dream of leaving her partner off the card.

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Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 13:23

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:18

why though wouldn’t you follow the couples’ lead? If they combine finances follow suit. You aren’t respecting their set up or their relationship

It’s not down to anyone else to respect or validate your relationship and your set up.

You’re obsessed with being viewed as a big girl with a big girl relationship but no one else gives a shit.

You have decided the arbitrary rules that someone can only receive a card addressed to themselves on their birthday, can only have sole use of a gift if it’s a physical item and must share it amount the family if it’s cash.

My DH and I fully share finances, if his mum says ‘here’s an extra £100 for Christmas’ I don’t demand my £50 because our relationship just be respected.

LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 13:23

Sometimes I do put my mother "above" DH or our sons. A couple of years ago my Mum had a medical/surgical emergency, and was rushed to hospital for an operation. I certainly did make her a priority, DH looked after the boys, I went to be with my Mum. DH didn't whinge or see this as some sort of competition.

But there's not a ranking system here. I love both my parents, I love DH, I love our sons. There's no competition here. My Mum, sons and I went away for a week last summer, without DH. We are all blood related, I suppose, but didn't take my Dad or DH (neither of whom is blood related to all of us). We had a fabulous week, and Dad and DH were happy for us.

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:24

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:18

why though wouldn’t you follow the couples’ lead? If they combine finances follow suit. You aren’t respecting their set up or their relationship

So you want her to know about your finances when it’s to your benefit but don’t want her to about finances when it’s not to your benefit?

There’s a word for that, OP.

Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 13:24

@HollyKnight I agree. When I've given my daughter money for Christmas or birthday, it's for her to spend on herself, not for her husband. My mother in law always gave money to my husband, me, and our daughter at Christmas and she always gave it to us separately with the expectation that we would spend our individual amounts on treats for ourselves, and not put it into a joint pot. I think being given your own money as a present is very different to having joint accounts and joint finances.

saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:25

So you want her to know about your finances when it’s to your benefit but don’t want her to about finances when it’s not to your benefit?
There’s a word for that, OP.

You put that way better than I did!

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:26

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:43

I disagree. Holiday cards and such should be addressed to the household. I guess the question is if I’m about to be her DIL why exclude em? And her sons are longgg grown up he is nearly 30!! The apron strings from mom should have been cut long ago by her. He is a man with a home of his own and a woman he is about to marry not a little boy living under his mom’s roof. The time to do a trip to Segway growing up would be when he is moving out of the family home. But that transition happened years ago. The horse is already out of the barn so to speak. Also way too old for his mother to dictate a grown man’s vacation. What about when we have kids? Is he expected to up and leave the mother of his children and leave me to tend to them on my own to vacation with his mother? Or will he and our children be invited bc they are blood and you know blood is thicker than water and I’m left out bc I’m not familyyyyy? It’s a slipper slope. If I’m still left out at this stage why would I think it would magically change?

Where is the law that a woman can’t write a Christmas card with a gift for her own son? It’s a gift for him from his mother, because she is his mother and she wants to treat him at Christmas. Nothing odd about it, it’s just a rule you made up.
i went on holidays with my nuclear family at a similar age, again nothing odd about it. Again there’s no rule about when parents should stop asking their kids to go on holidays. It’s just your opinion.
She didn’t “dictate his vacation” she asked him to go on a trip with his nuclear family of which you are not a part.

You don’t have kids, being engaged to someone isn’t the same as having kids with someone. And if you have kids please do not use them to cause further conflict in this family because you have issues with your MIL.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:26

saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:23

My late husband and I combined our finances for the 40 years we were together. But monetary gifts for Christmas and birthdays were given to us as individuals, and we would encourage each other to spend it accordingly. Sometimes we would, sometimes we would use it for a joint meal or day out. But it never went into the joint account, and nor did we expect or want people to read our minds regarding how it would be spent or saved.

It's odd that you don't want your fiancee to tell his mum your financial arrangements, yet at the same time you want her to bear them in mind when she gifts something.

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I would feel strange if I received a large cash gift not sharing it with my partner. Trying to figure how that would even work we live together and have a life together naturally anything he buys I’m going to benefit from. If he gets something for the house well it’s my house too, using it towards food well I eat the food too. We haven’t been on a trip the two of us in a while so I suggested using the money for that and my fiancé thought that was a great idea. So he thanked his mom and she got upset that it was going towards our trip. So yes she literally expected him to rack his brain thinking of a way I can’t possibly benefit. Weird

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:27

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:26

Where is the law that a woman can’t write a Christmas card with a gift for her own son? It’s a gift for him from his mother, because she is his mother and she wants to treat him at Christmas. Nothing odd about it, it’s just a rule you made up.
i went on holidays with my nuclear family at a similar age, again nothing odd about it. Again there’s no rule about when parents should stop asking their kids to go on holidays. It’s just your opinion.
She didn’t “dictate his vacation” she asked him to go on a trip with his nuclear family of which you are not a part.

You don’t have kids, being engaged to someone isn’t the same as having kids with someone. And if you have kids please do not use them to cause further conflict in this family because you have issues with your MIL.

Yes we are family to each other. And you think he considers the man he barely lived with and met as an adult a part of his “nuclear family” and that he doesn’t consider his soon to be wife in the next couple of months not his “nuclear family” weird to consider someone else’s spouse your nuclear family but not your own.

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the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:27

Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 13:24

@HollyKnight I agree. When I've given my daughter money for Christmas or birthday, it's for her to spend on herself, not for her husband. My mother in law always gave money to my husband, me, and our daughter at Christmas and she always gave it to us separately with the expectation that we would spend our individual amounts on treats for ourselves, and not put it into a joint pot. I think being given your own money as a present is very different to having joint accounts and joint finances.

This. It’s a gift. You give someone a jumper for example or you give someone £50 to chose their own treat.

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:28

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:21

And you wouldn’t want your DIL to treat herself as well? So it’s only your son that works hard and deserves a treat but not his wife? Interesting if they have children considering even in 2025 most of the child rearing is still put on the woman.

No, it is not my responsibility to treat my son's girlfriend. She's not my child. She has her own parents for that. And if I don't like her I'm going to feel even less inclined to give my hard earned money to her directly. My son can share his money with her if he wants.

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 13:29

If the partner got a pair of jeans as a gift OP would demand a leg out of fairness.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:30

LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 13:23

Sometimes I do put my mother "above" DH or our sons. A couple of years ago my Mum had a medical/surgical emergency, and was rushed to hospital for an operation. I certainly did make her a priority, DH looked after the boys, I went to be with my Mum. DH didn't whinge or see this as some sort of competition.

But there's not a ranking system here. I love both my parents, I love DH, I love our sons. There's no competition here. My Mum, sons and I went away for a week last summer, without DH. We are all blood related, I suppose, but didn't take my Dad or DH (neither of whom is blood related to all of us). We had a fabulous week, and Dad and DH were happy for us.

Yes that’s a medical emergency completely different! Of course in that circumstance I would expect my fiancé to put his mom first but in day to day life when I’m about to be his wife in a few short months yes I expect to be put first. We are a family of our own.

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SomethingStinky · 24/01/2025 13:30

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:18

why though wouldn’t you follow the couples’ lead? If they combine finances follow suit. You aren’t respecting their set up or their relationship

How would she know that you combined finances given the money gift thing happened long before the conversation about finances?

This is utterly bonkers OP.

I've been married for over a decade, mortgage, kids, the lot. Sometimes we get gifts of money from parents at Christmas, and those are for us as individuals. Sometimes my husband gets an Amazon voucher off his dad. That's for his use, not in the family pot.

You have very rigid views about how things should be, failing to appreciate that not everyone thinks as you do.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:30

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:28

No, it is not my responsibility to treat my son's girlfriend. She's not my child. She has her own parents for that. And if I don't like her I'm going to feel even less inclined to give my hard earned money to her directly. My son can share his money with her if he wants.

Im not his gf im his fiance about to be married in a matter of months.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:31

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:26

I would feel strange if I received a large cash gift not sharing it with my partner. Trying to figure how that would even work we live together and have a life together naturally anything he buys I’m going to benefit from. If he gets something for the house well it’s my house too, using it towards food well I eat the food too. We haven’t been on a trip the two of us in a while so I suggested using the money for that and my fiancé thought that was a great idea. So he thanked his mom and she got upset that it was going towards our trip. So yes she literally expected him to rack his brain thinking of a way I can’t possibly benefit. Weird

Once she gives him the money it’s up to him to decide how he wants to spend it and if he wanted to spend it on your joint trip, that’s fine.

What we don’t know is whether his mum is concerned that you are controlling how he spends the money, especially as he already puts a lot more into the joint account, despite the fact that as a couple you are not married, because you are already trying to control how much he tells his mother about finances.

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 13:32

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:27

Yes we are family to each other. And you think he considers the man he barely lived with and met as an adult a part of his “nuclear family” and that he doesn’t consider his soon to be wife in the next couple of months not his “nuclear family” weird to consider someone else’s spouse your nuclear family but not your own.

18 months is not “in the next couple”. At this rate it might not even happen.

Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 13:33

LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 13:23

Sometimes I do put my mother "above" DH or our sons. A couple of years ago my Mum had a medical/surgical emergency, and was rushed to hospital for an operation. I certainly did make her a priority, DH looked after the boys, I went to be with my Mum. DH didn't whinge or see this as some sort of competition.

But there's not a ranking system here. I love both my parents, I love DH, I love our sons. There's no competition here. My Mum, sons and I went away for a week last summer, without DH. We are all blood related, I suppose, but didn't take my Dad or DH (neither of whom is blood related to all of us). We had a fabulous week, and Dad and DH were happy for us.

Very well said. There should be no competition within families about who is loved the most or who is most important. While my Mum needed my support as her dementia got worse, then of course she was my priority at that time, just as my mother in law was my husband's top priority when she was going through similar dementia problems. Neither of us moaned that the other was spending every day at times with our respective mothers - we loved them without question and did what was needed. When I had cancer treatment and a 10 hour operation, I was my husband's top priority at that time when I needed support during my recovery; similarly I've put everything on hold when he has needed me.

People don't have a finite amount of love and can love more than one person at a time. I loved my mum without reservation and there is nothing I wouldn't have done for her. I feel exactly the same about my husband and my daughter. However, whilst I have always loved all three of them with all my heart, it's a very different type of love for a parent, husband, and child.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:34

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:27

Yes we are family to each other. And you think he considers the man he barely lived with and met as an adult a part of his “nuclear family” and that he doesn’t consider his soon to be wife in the next couple of months not his “nuclear family” weird to consider someone else’s spouse your nuclear family but not your own.

Again similar to the MIL it’s a different relationship. But yet one you also feel the need to compete with for importance to seek to prove your point that there is some objective standard that your MIL was someone wrong not to invite you on a trip.

It sounds very much like she doesn’t make an effort with you because you are causing conflict in her family.

The woman doesn’t even have the freedom to give her own son a treat at Christmas because you feel it undermines your relationship. It’s a treat from mother to son. It has nothing to do with you.

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:34

Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 13:24

@HollyKnight I agree. When I've given my daughter money for Christmas or birthday, it's for her to spend on herself, not for her husband. My mother in law always gave money to my husband, me, and our daughter at Christmas and she always gave it to us separately with the expectation that we would spend our individual amounts on treats for ourselves, and not put it into a joint pot. I think being given your own money as a present is very different to having joint accounts and joint finances.

Indeed. This is what I think I would do. I would give them money seperately, because they are individuals, and hope they would spend it on themselves rather than together. People don't stop existing as individuals just because they are in a relationship with someone.

However, if my future DIL is a knob, she'll be getting a bath set. 😂

I wonder if the OP plans to take her future children's gift money to add to the household pot since they are a FaMiLy.

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