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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Anothernamechane · 24/01/2025 12:43

Op is sounding more and more like a child who has a day off due to Storm Eowyn

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:43

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 08:01

The women probably just wanted a family trip away with all her kids before they get older. And I think you said he has two younger brothers or brothers at least. She probably just thought it would he a nice idea for them to hang out. It wasn’t about you. She didn’t ask him to come and meet her friend’s daughter to set them up. She wanted him to spend time with his family. As his partner you should be supporting things that you good for him. That is what you do when you love someone.

Your partner’s mother is entitled to send her son a gift without you picking it apart.

I wouldn’t want a relationship for my son where what he does and the conversations he has are policed to this extent. I find it very upsetting.

You want to control him. What you describe as true love is coming across more like youthful obsession.

Loving someone isn’t aggressively insisting you be involved in every part of their lives.

I disagree. Holiday cards and such should be addressed to the household. I guess the question is if I’m about to be her DIL why exclude em? And her sons are longgg grown up he is nearly 30!! The apron strings from mom should have been cut long ago by her. He is a man with a home of his own and a woman he is about to marry not a little boy living under his mom’s roof. The time to do a trip to Segway growing up would be when he is moving out of the family home. But that transition happened years ago. The horse is already out of the barn so to speak. Also way too old for his mother to dictate a grown man’s vacation. What about when we have kids? Is he expected to up and leave the mother of his children and leave me to tend to them on my own to vacation with his mother? Or will he and our children be invited bc they are blood and you know blood is thicker than water and I’m left out bc I’m not familyyyyy? It’s a slipper slope. If I’m still left out at this stage why would I think it would magically change?

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saraclara · 24/01/2025 12:45

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:25

It’s odd to leave someone’s partner when they live together and are long term off the Christmas card. Usually Christmas cards (with whatever it contains) would be addressed to a household. Why wouldn’t it be? Socks are different they are tailored to one person. Where as money is generally something couples share. We have a joint account. I compare it more to receiving say a new TV for Christmas or a new appliance. We are partners and I live there should I run into another room whenever he watches that new tv because it wasn’t addressed to me or am I not allowed to use that air fryer?

Money is not necessarily something that partners share. Income, yes. Gift money? Not necessarily.

I'm very fond of my DDs' partners (one a husband) and if I give them an item for their home, it's a gift to both. If I give one of my DDs money as a birthday gift, it's a gift to her and is hope that she spends it on a treat for herself. If she doesn't, but puts it towards a shared holiday with her DH/partner, that's fine too. But it's HER money, not his (or mine) at that point.

Incidentally I gave my son in law money for Christmas, as he's really difficult to buy for. He was thrilled as he was saving up for something that HE wanted for himself, and my money made up that last little bit of savings that he needed. It was his money to spend that way, not to be put in the joint account (unless he wanted to).

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:48

saraclara · 24/01/2025 09:58

Virtually every Mumsnet with a living mum that she loves will talk to her about all sorts of stuff and rely on her support at times. Why do you consider that a man should not? That's incredibly sexist.

As was said fairly early on, any man who is half way as close to his mum as many women are, runs the risk of being called a mummy's boy, or have people talk about cutting the apron strings. No-one ever says the equivalent to a 30 year old woman.

My late DH was close to his mum and his care for her is was among the things that endeared him to me.

There's a lot said on here about MILs competing for their sons, but you are doing the same. You can't bear that you are not the only woman in his life. You seem to think that he should just dispense with his mother now that he has you.

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I don’t see anyone saying he should cut the apron strings. In fact everyone on here has been vehemently in support of the relationship he has with his mother. So where are all these people you are referring to that criticize a man’s closeness to his mother. If anything I see it the opposite way a man who is close to his mother is always praised for it by virtue of being close to her. I mean look at all the comments on here, “oh he would make a great husband bc he is close to his mother” “it means he’s a caring man” so nope not saying any bashing for that

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LAMPS1 · 24/01/2025 12:49

Nope they weren’t just his finances they were OURS coming into the joint account.

Forgive me if I’m wrong OP, but didn’t you say he didn’t give actual numbers just mentioned how he organises his finances. Nothing wrong with him telling his mum that …..he is his own person even though he is engaged to you, with a right to free speech without your prior approval. You were taking offence and having a good cry for the sake of finding fault. It can be seen as controlling…as has been pointed out to you repeatedly.

saraclara · 24/01/2025 12:49

her sons are longgg grown up he is nearly 30!! The apron strings from mom should have been cut long ago by her.

Again, would you say this about a daughter?

I'm going to take a punt on you not having a good relationship with your mother. I didn't either. But it made me all the more appreciative (and somewhat envious!) of my DH and his mum's warm relationship throughout our marriage.

saraclara · 24/01/2025 12:51

I don’t see anyone saying he should cut the apron strings

You just have, only a few posts ago! And not for the first time.

ETA, oh, no. You think that his mother's job.
You have some very strange ideas.

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 12:51

Any money I give to someone is a gift for that person, not the household. It is for them to do with what they want. If they want to share or spend it on their partner, that is their choice.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:58

MangshorJhol · 24/01/2025 11:40

She’s 24, she’s not that young. But she is ‘madly in love’ in case we were in doubt. Not just in love, or reasonably in love, or very much in love, but madly.
And she must be no 1.

And she flits between the to be DH being a knight in shining armour and being mommy’s boy. It will be very very interesting if the OP one day has sons of her own. I would love to meet the OP in a couple of decades with three boys!

Meanwhile the step father than been with the MIL for 12 years but isn’t the DH’s ‘close family’ but she’s been with this guy for 5 and must be placed ahead of the MIL.

But most importantly, all questions about OP’s own relationship with her family have been brushed off with ‘they see us as one unit’. All talk of the unconditional love of parents seems to have been ignored. She keeps saying why is my MIL biased towards her son?! Because she’s his mom OP?!
I wonder if OP’s family is conservative and OP as the daughter has secondary status and OP’s family are also very keen to see this marriage happen/work and so the OP is feeling both pressure from her family and insecurity about her fiance.

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No quite the opposite my parents have been very welcome of my fiancé from before we were even engaged from the time we started dating. They are agnostic and couldn’t be more liberal if they tried. They just know he is important to me so he is important to them. Since we started dating he has been invited to all family vacations, holidays cards are addressed to both of us, his birthday gets acknowledged, in fact my parents, my sister, fiance, and I (then BF) was taken out to dinner by my parents and they paid for everyone including my BF as a good luck dinner to my BF on his love and new job.

Meanwhile my FMIL rudely leaves my name off of holiday cards, excludes me from vacations, never reaches out to me. You have to admit this is very cold behavior after this amount of time and when we are engaged to be married. It’s like she is completely ignoring my relationship to her son it sends a loud message. Luckily my fiance did stand up for us and our relationship and told her mom moving forward unless it’s my birthday all holiday cards should acknowledge the household you wouldn’t want me to ignore Matt (his stepfather) at the holidays are tell you Matt wasn’t invited bc he’s not blood so you should understand where I’m coming from and she stomped her feet and said you will regret this and I only want to address this card to you and some mumbo jumbo about blood being thicker than water. When he mentioned ok but Matt isn’t my blood yet you expect me to treat him like a member of the family and to not ignore his existence. She said well that’s different and oh of course it is in her mind because she is the generation above us so we are supposed to show respect to them on the basis that they are older but they don’t have to show respect to us. It’s such a double standard. Her SON set the boundary her SON that she is very clearly still very much attached to yet she didn’t want to budge. I said our wedding is June of 2026 that was a typo my finger slipped as I was typing so my apologies. But the wedding is actually June of this year.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:00

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 12:51

Any money I give to someone is a gift for that person, not the household. It is for them to do with what they want. If they want to share or spend it on their partner, that is their choice.

Most couples do share money though. That’s not an unheard of thing so why wouldn’t you just address it to the both of them and respect that? Especially knowing they do joint accounts you have to figure it’s all going to one pot anyways.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:02

saraclara · 24/01/2025 12:51

I don’t see anyone saying he should cut the apron strings

You just have, only a few posts ago! And not for the first time.

ETA, oh, no. You think that his mother's job.
You have some very strange ideas.

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Are you kidding me? Everyone has been piling on me for daring to criticize the relationship he has with his mother. Are you blind?! So no there isn’t this epidemic of men getting not blasted like you are making up in your head for their close relationship with their mother quit the contrary they are getting PRAISED for it by being called a good future husband and a loyal man. I ask the opposite question howcome women don’t get called good wives for having a close relationship with their mother but men get praised and called good husbands for having a close one with theirs?? Trust me men aren’t victims here.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:04

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:00

Most couples do share money though. That’s not an unheard of thing so why wouldn’t you just address it to the both of them and respect that? Especially knowing they do joint accounts you have to figure it’s all going to one pot anyways.

It’s her gift to her son, not you. Why can’t you respect that? You sound very grabby.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:06

saraclara · 24/01/2025 12:49

her sons are longgg grown up he is nearly 30!! The apron strings from mom should have been cut long ago by her.

Again, would you say this about a daughter?

I'm going to take a punt on you not having a good relationship with your mother. I didn't either. But it made me all the more appreciative (and somewhat envious!) of my DH and his mum's warm relationship throughout our marriage.

You know nothing about my relationship with my mother. I’m very close to both my parents and sister as well. And yes my mother who is a mother of two girls would never dream of telling me my fiancé isn’t invited on a vacation with them. If my mom didn’t invite him I would tell her mom I’ve been moved out of the family home for a while now with a home if my own my family encompasses him as well. So yes I would say the same thing.

So you are trying really hard to make a case of this supposed double standard and I give you mad props for trying but it’s simply not the case. In fact on here I have been flamed for me myself calling him a momma’s boy gasp how DARE I criticize the relationship he has with his mother. She is his mother a good relationship with her means he will be a good husband.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:07

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:02

Are you kidding me? Everyone has been piling on me for daring to criticize the relationship he has with his mother. Are you blind?! So no there isn’t this epidemic of men getting not blasted like you are making up in your head for their close relationship with their mother quit the contrary they are getting PRAISED for it by being called a good future husband and a loyal man. I ask the opposite question howcome women don’t get called good wives for having a close relationship with their mother but men get praised and called good husbands for having a close one with theirs?? Trust me men aren’t victims here.

People who have good, healthy relationships with their parents are green flags, regardless of their sex.

People who treat their parents badly are a red flag for also treating their partner badly, regardless of their sex.

It’s not that difficult a concept.

MangshorJhol · 24/01/2025 13:09

But you said EXACTLY what you have said before. How amazing your parents are to your FIANCE.
What about you? Do they think he’s enormously lucky to be marrying you?

Did you get taken out for a meal when you got a job?!

You keep telling us how amazing they are to him and keep wondering why his mom is biased towards him. Because that’s how parents are- biased towards their own children.

If you dumped your fiancé for being a mommy’s boy today how would your parents react? If you broke up in the future or god forbid, got a divorce, what would happen? Would they support you unconditionally?

InWalksBarberalla · 24/01/2025 13:09

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:32

You really think that he should place his mother above his soon to be wife? And not only that but you really think he should place someone else’s his mother’s husband as more family and more important to him than his own wife to be? That’s wild!! Why would another person’s spouse come before his own?!

Normal people don't rank relationships.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:12

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:04

It’s her gift to her son, not you. Why can’t you respect that? You sound very grabby.

Because it was in a Christmas card. When you address Christmas cards do you just address one half of the couple? If so how strange. We have joint accounts so the money goes in there not sure how he is supposed to keep that from me or why his mom couldn’t address it to both of us. The fact she doesn’t want me to have a treat as well speaks volumes. What about when we have kids will she address the card to my husband and kids but not to me bc I’m not real family bc I’m not blood.

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saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:12

Normal people don't rank relationships

Exactly that. There were times when my MIL needed putting first, and I'd have been the first to say so. There's no fixed hierarchy. It depends on the situation.

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 13:14

I disagree. Holiday cards and such should be addressed to the household.

You have read one thing on etiquette and ran away with it. People send Christmas cards or other cards to individuals all the time. You don’t become attached at the hip because you move in with someone. You are still individuals with your own friends, lives, interests.

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:15

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:12

Because it was in a Christmas card. When you address Christmas cards do you just address one half of the couple? If so how strange. We have joint accounts so the money goes in there not sure how he is supposed to keep that from me or why his mom couldn’t address it to both of us. The fact she doesn’t want me to have a treat as well speaks volumes. What about when we have kids will she address the card to my husband and kids but not to me bc I’m not real family bc I’m not blood.

It’s a Christmas gift for her son.

What did you buy her for Christmas? Did you send a card?

saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:16

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:12

Because it was in a Christmas card. When you address Christmas cards do you just address one half of the couple? If so how strange. We have joint accounts so the money goes in there not sure how he is supposed to keep that from me or why his mom couldn’t address it to both of us. The fact she doesn’t want me to have a treat as well speaks volumes. What about when we have kids will she address the card to my husband and kids but not to me bc I’m not real family bc I’m not blood.

Yes, I'd address a Christmas card to both partners if they live together. But any monetary gift to my daughter is hers, whether or not they have a joint account.

Your MIL is clearly a difficult person, but you're focusing on all the wrong things. You are not married (though it wouldn't make any difference to me if you were) so his money is not yours. He can decide to share it with you, but his mum is entitled to see his monetary Christmas gift as his. Just as I do to both the married and unmarried couples in my family.

InWalksBarberalla · 24/01/2025 13:17

I mean does anyone blame this guy's mum for not wanting to holiday with the OP?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:17

saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:12

Normal people don't rank relationships

Exactly that. There were times when my MIL needed putting first, and I'd have been the first to say so. There's no fixed hierarchy. It depends on the situation.

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Ok fair. I just find it hard to believe that if a FMIL came on here and said she leaves her son’s fiance despite they own a home together off of holiday cards and she excludes her from family vacations she would be getting support for her position. Then if she came here and said what my FMIL said to my fiance which was, “you will regret this one day asking for her to be included in the card blood is thicker than water.” And then told her partner can come on vacation but her 30 year old son can’t bring his do you really think she would get resounding support for her position?

Based on other threads I’ve seen on here absolutely not!

people would say, “good for your son for standing up for his fiancé. This is the woman he is going to marry you should respect their relationship don’t exclude her it’s not a good way to start the in law relationship.”

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the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:18

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:04

It’s her gift to her son, not you. Why can’t you respect that? You sound very grabby.

OP why you can’t you just let the man have a gift from his own mother in peace. You can’t - you have to make the rules around it, it’s only allowed on his birthday.

I’ve been with my husband for many years and occasionally his mother gives him stuff. And sometimes she gives us both stuff. On no occasion have I ever felt the need to intervene.

Let then man have a present from his own mother in peace instead of discussing how he must tell his mother X & Y.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:18

saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:16

Yes, I'd address a Christmas card to both partners if they live together. But any monetary gift to my daughter is hers, whether or not they have a joint account.

Your MIL is clearly a difficult person, but you're focusing on all the wrong things. You are not married (though it wouldn't make any difference to me if you were) so his money is not yours. He can decide to share it with you, but his mum is entitled to see his monetary Christmas gift as his. Just as I do to both the married and unmarried couples in my family.

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why though wouldn’t you follow the couples’ lead? If they combine finances follow suit. You aren’t respecting their set up or their relationship

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