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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 13:34

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:30

Yes that’s a medical emergency completely different! Of course in that circumstance I would expect my fiancé to put his mom first but in day to day life when I’m about to be his wife in a few short months yes I expect to be put first. We are a family of our own.

But why do you rank these things? Is it a path to well-being or happiness to see yourself and his Mum as in competition? It certainly doesn't seem helpful or fruitful to me.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:36

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:31

Once she gives him the money it’s up to him to decide how he wants to spend it and if he wanted to spend it on your joint trip, that’s fine.

What we don’t know is whether his mum is concerned that you are controlling how he spends the money, especially as he already puts a lot more into the joint account, despite the fact that as a couple you are not married, because you are already trying to control how much he tells his mother about finances.

Plenty of people on here even ones that disagree with how I handle my relationship with his mother said that our financial set up is perfectly normal based on percentages. That’s the fair way to do it in a relationship especially one where marriage is very soon on the horizon. Some couples choice to combine finances when they buy a home together as they consider that almost as big as marriage and a sign their relationship is very serious and a partnership.This is 2025 some people don’t choose to ever get married does that mean they shouldn’t view their partnership as a team or never combine finances. And some couples do wait until the literal wedding day to combine finances and that’s totally a valid choice too. However don’t criticize others who choose to do it differently.

He was the one (again grown man responsible for his own words) who told his mother to not exclude his soon to be wife over Christmas cards not me. She lives 13 hours away so has no way of knowing the ins and outs of our relationship nor should she. Not her business

You don’t have to be married to be a partnership and that’s how partnership works splitting things up and helping each other out. I can’t imagine that every single couple nickels and dimes and splits to the dollar amount. So it’s irrelevant in a serious relationship:marriage who makes more and who makes less.

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HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:37

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:30

Im not his gf im his fiance about to be married in a matter of months.

Doesn't matter. You're still not her child nor her responsibility to treat.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:39

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:36

Plenty of people on here even ones that disagree with how I handle my relationship with his mother said that our financial set up is perfectly normal based on percentages. That’s the fair way to do it in a relationship especially one where marriage is very soon on the horizon. Some couples choice to combine finances when they buy a home together as they consider that almost as big as marriage and a sign their relationship is very serious and a partnership.This is 2025 some people don’t choose to ever get married does that mean they shouldn’t view their partnership as a team or never combine finances. And some couples do wait until the literal wedding day to combine finances and that’s totally a valid choice too. However don’t criticize others who choose to do it differently.

He was the one (again grown man responsible for his own words) who told his mother to not exclude his soon to be wife over Christmas cards not me. She lives 13 hours away so has no way of knowing the ins and outs of our relationship nor should she. Not her business

You don’t have to be married to be a partnership and that’s how partnership works splitting things up and helping each other out. I can’t imagine that every single couple nickels and dimes and splits to the dollar amount. So it’s irrelevant in a serious relationship:marriage who makes more and who makes less.

It’s not irrelevant at all. In fact finances are one of the number one causes of divorce.

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 13:39

I can’t imagine that every single couple nickels and dimes and splits to the dollar amount. So it’s irrelevant in a serious relationship:marriage who makes more and who makes less.

If it’s not about splitting to the dollar amount why are you so annoyed that he got Christmas money for himself? 😂

myrtleWilson · 24/01/2025 13:39

Is the OP getting married soon, I'm mad keen to know

saraclara · 24/01/2025 13:40

I would feel strange if I received a large cash gift not sharing it with my partner. Trying to figure how that would even work we live together and have a life together naturally anything he buys I’m going to benefit from. If he gets something for the house well it’s my house too, using it towards food well I eat the food too.

You never buy anything for yourself@ThisQuickJadeWasp ? No clothes? No perfume? No books? Nothing personal AT ALL?

I don't believe you. And in 40 years of happy married life, my DH and I didn't fail to find things to spend our gifted money on. We were two separate people who shared a life, not some weird conjoined blob.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:40

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:37

Doesn't matter. You're still not her child nor her responsibility to treat.

And she isn’t my mother so I’m in obligation to include her in my own little family which is my fiancé and I and soon to be husband and we plan on immediately trying for children so will be interesting to see if she expects me to treat her equal to my mother when it comes to grandparent time. Bet suddenly knowing her and her personality she will expect me to treat her like my own mother when she doesn’t in any way shape or form treat me like any kind of daughter. Depsite the term MOTHER in law having the word mother in it.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:40

myrtleWilson · 24/01/2025 13:39

Is the OP getting married soon, I'm mad keen to know

Yup! In June

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the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:42

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:40

And she isn’t my mother so I’m in obligation to include her in my own little family which is my fiancé and I and soon to be husband and we plan on immediately trying for children so will be interesting to see if she expects me to treat her equal to my mother when it comes to grandparent time. Bet suddenly knowing her and her personality she will expect me to treat her like my own mother when she doesn’t in any way shape or form treat me like any kind of daughter. Depsite the term MOTHER in law having the word mother in it.

So you are planning to wield the power of having her grandchildren over this woman. They are as much her son’s children as they are yours. You won’t own them they are individuals who would benefit greatly from having relationships with their grandparents.

That attitude this completely toxic.

justasking111 · 24/01/2025 13:45

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:30

Im not his gf im his fiance about to be married in a matter of months.

I wouldn't count on that.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:48

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:42

So you are planning to wield the power of having her grandchildren over this woman. They are as much her son’s children as they are yours. You won’t own them they are individuals who would benefit greatly from having relationships with their grandparents.

That attitude this completely toxic.

Then her son can make all the arrangements I won’t personally lift a finger though. She can’t have it both ways. She can’t expect me to do the emotional labor of managing her relationship with her grandchildren while simultaneously only acknowledging her son and not her DIL or leave me out when she wants to but suddenly my role in the family becomes important as gate keeper to the grandchildren. It doesn’t work like that. You need to be fostering an independent and family relationship with the mother of the GC if you expect her to consider you family to go out of her way to arrange visits with the GC. So nope she wants to just acknowledge her son her son her son well guess what than her precious golden child can do all the heavy lifting. You reap what you sow.

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justasking111 · 24/01/2025 13:48

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:42

So you are planning to wield the power of having her grandchildren over this woman. They are as much her son’s children as they are yours. You won’t own them they are individuals who would benefit greatly from having relationships with their grandparents.

That attitude this completely toxic.

A man who has a healthy relationship with his family will start hiding things such as phone calls. He'll have to live two lives now.

Possibly a second hidden mobile at work.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:49

justasking111 · 24/01/2025 13:45

I wouldn't count on that.

Oh no we are very much getting married. My fiancé and I were just talking this morning about how we are excited for the cake testing

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the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:50

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:48

Then her son can make all the arrangements I won’t personally lift a finger though. She can’t have it both ways. She can’t expect me to do the emotional labor of managing her relationship with her grandchildren while simultaneously only acknowledging her son and not her DIL or leave me out when she wants to but suddenly my role in the family becomes important as gate keeper to the grandchildren. It doesn’t work like that. You need to be fostering an independent and family relationship with the mother of the GC if you expect her to consider you family to go out of her way to arrange visits with the GC. So nope she wants to just acknowledge her son her son her son well guess what than her precious golden child can do all the heavy lifting. You reap what you sow.

So you will allow your then husband to take your children to visit her? Even though now he isn’t allowed to go on a trip without you?

Why do you insist on using language like “golden boy” and “mummy’s boy”. It’s very demeaning and doesn’t make you come across well.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:51

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:42

So you are planning to wield the power of having her grandchildren over this woman. They are as much her son’s children as they are yours. You won’t own them they are individuals who would benefit greatly from having relationships with their grandparents.

That attitude this completely toxic.

I don’t own them huh?! Do you realize the irony of your statement I don’t own my young children but my FMIL certainly act like she owns her nearly 30 year old son. Crying and telling him he will regret it when he set a boundary of asking to include my name on Christmas cards which is what a 2 second effort to write someone’s name and when told he isn’t attending a vacation where he fiancé is so blatantly excluded.

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Alltheyellowbirds · 24/01/2025 13:52

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:40

And she isn’t my mother so I’m in obligation to include her in my own little family which is my fiancé and I and soon to be husband and we plan on immediately trying for children so will be interesting to see if she expects me to treat her equal to my mother when it comes to grandparent time. Bet suddenly knowing her and her personality she will expect me to treat her like my own mother when she doesn’t in any way shape or form treat me like any kind of daughter. Depsite the term MOTHER in law having the word mother in it.

Of COURSE she will expect you to treat her as equal to your mother in terms of time with the grandchildren, and so will your DH.

She is his mother, just as your mother is your mother. They will both be your children’s grandparents equally.

i have not seen one bit of evidence in all of your extremely long (and paragraph-free) posts that he is “enmeshed” or that she has interfered, or that she treats you badly.

You don’t seem to be listening to anyone’s advice, which is frustrating. Whatever anyone says you just respond with the same things again and again. If I was your MIL I would find you quite hard work and controlling, and be concerned for my son’s future.

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:52

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:40

And she isn’t my mother so I’m in obligation to include her in my own little family which is my fiancé and I and soon to be husband and we plan on immediately trying for children so will be interesting to see if she expects me to treat her equal to my mother when it comes to grandparent time. Bet suddenly knowing her and her personality she will expect me to treat her like my own mother when she doesn’t in any way shape or form treat me like any kind of daughter. Depsite the term MOTHER in law having the word mother in it.

I don't think she'll care if you do or don't. Her son can facilitate a relationship between her and his children. Unless you won't allow him to because you are controlling the boss.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:53

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 13:50

So you will allow your then husband to take your children to visit her? Even though now he isn’t allowed to go on a trip without you?

Why do you insist on using language like “golden boy” and “mummy’s boy”. It’s very demeaning and doesn’t make you come across well.

Because I’m blatantly excluded from the trip I’m not blatantly excluded from taking my kids to see his mother. I’m choosing to exclude myself.

Im using those phrases sarcastically bc they exist for a reason because she only focuses on her son her son her son and never her FDIL. She is hell bent on excluding me so I was proving a point she sees him as her “golden boy” have you never heard that phrase before? It could be an American phrase so I’m not sure.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:53

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:36

Plenty of people on here even ones that disagree with how I handle my relationship with his mother said that our financial set up is perfectly normal based on percentages. That’s the fair way to do it in a relationship especially one where marriage is very soon on the horizon. Some couples choice to combine finances when they buy a home together as they consider that almost as big as marriage and a sign their relationship is very serious and a partnership.This is 2025 some people don’t choose to ever get married does that mean they shouldn’t view their partnership as a team or never combine finances. And some couples do wait until the literal wedding day to combine finances and that’s totally a valid choice too. However don’t criticize others who choose to do it differently.

He was the one (again grown man responsible for his own words) who told his mother to not exclude his soon to be wife over Christmas cards not me. She lives 13 hours away so has no way of knowing the ins and outs of our relationship nor should she. Not her business

You don’t have to be married to be a partnership and that’s how partnership works splitting things up and helping each other out. I can’t imagine that every single couple nickels and dimes and splits to the dollar amount. So it’s irrelevant in a serious relationship:marriage who makes more and who makes less.

Yes, some do arrange it that way, but your word soup ignores my point that his mother may have some concerns for her son’s happiness based on your attempts to control how much he shares with you, which then manifests in her giving him money as a gift for himself.

You seem insatiable - for more money, more gifts, more exclusivity on secrets and more control.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:54

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 13:52

I don't think she'll care if you do or don't. Her son can facilitate a relationship between her and his children. Unless you won't allow him to because you are controlling the boss.

They aren’t my stepchildren so they aren’t HIS children they are OUR children. Did you forget I’m the one that carried them for 9 months.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:55

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:53

Because I’m blatantly excluded from the trip I’m not blatantly excluded from taking my kids to see his mother. I’m choosing to exclude myself.

Im using those phrases sarcastically bc they exist for a reason because she only focuses on her son her son her son and never her FDIL. She is hell bent on excluding me so I was proving a point she sees him as her “golden boy” have you never heard that phrase before? It could be an American phrase so I’m not sure.

You can exclude yourself all you like but you can’t expect him to exclude his mother.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:57

Alltheyellowbirds · 24/01/2025 13:52

Of COURSE she will expect you to treat her as equal to your mother in terms of time with the grandchildren, and so will your DH.

She is his mother, just as your mother is your mother. They will both be your children’s grandparents equally.

i have not seen one bit of evidence in all of your extremely long (and paragraph-free) posts that he is “enmeshed” or that she has interfered, or that she treats you badly.

You don’t seem to be listening to anyone’s advice, which is frustrating. Whatever anyone says you just respond with the same things again and again. If I was your MIL I would find you quite hard work and controlling, and be concerned for my son’s future.

She left me out as his soon to be wife in just a matter of months from a vacation where her partner is welcome to attend. She didn’t ever exchange words with me but actions speak louder than words and that spoke volumes.

My point was if she wants to exclude me and not treat me like any kind of daughter or even family member to her why should I suddenly go out of my way to plan visits with her and her GC. Shouldn’t that be her precious baby boys job as she is only interested in him. Unless you are suggesting she should view me as an incubator for her GC and I know you aren’t suggesting that. So yes I’m dropping the rope completely. It’s all on her son.

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Lavenderflower · 24/01/2025 13:57

I have not read all the response but there something off with this thread. I don't find it unusual for people to share things with their parents. I cannot tell if your husband is oversharing or if you are controlling - or perhaps it's both.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:58

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:55

You can exclude yourself all you like but you can’t expect him to exclude his mother.

yes I get that. I just said me personally I won’t lift a finger. She made it clear I’m not family so I’m dropping the rope.

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